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	<title>Comments on: The Rangers aren&#8217;t signing Kyle Lohse</title>
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		<title>By: markofapro</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/06/the-rangers-arent-signing-kyle-lohse/comment-page-1/#comment-452822</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Mar 2013 00:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey, official-jackwagon-game: it all looks good on paper until the team has to perform. Are you prepared to go with that geriatric rotation against the likes of the Nats and Braves? What if there is an injury early in the season? It&#039;s very likely.

You are a troglodyte. Don&#039;t look it up if you don&#039;t know what it means.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, official-jackwagon-game: it all looks good on paper until the team has to perform. Are you prepared to go with that geriatric rotation against the likes of the Nats and Braves? What if there is an injury early in the season? It&#8217;s very likely.</p>
<p>You are a troglodyte. Don&#8217;t look it up if you don&#8217;t know what it means.</p>
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		<title>By: spudchukar</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/06/the-rangers-arent-signing-kyle-lohse/comment-page-1/#comment-452412</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[spudchukar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2013 15:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If Lohse had shown any signs of taking a step backwards the so-called &quot;expected regression&quot; would be more meaningful.  He is 34, no babe, but not exactly on Social Security.  Plus he is and always has been in good shape, arguably a young 34.  Plus he has never experienced any arm trouble from pitching, a rarity for someone with the number of innings he has shouldered.

Who knows if he has 3 more good years ahead of him.  But he sure as hell is a lot better than Lowe, and a contending team like the Rangers, with ample cash should think twice.  Maybe, they consider themselves in a brief rebuilding period with the loss of Hamilton, Napoli and Young and with Profar and Olt still young and unproven, but turning to the always ready to implode Lowe is hardly the answer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Lohse had shown any signs of taking a step backwards the so-called &#8220;expected regression&#8221; would be more meaningful.  He is 34, no babe, but not exactly on Social Security.  Plus he is and always has been in good shape, arguably a young 34.  Plus he has never experienced any arm trouble from pitching, a rarity for someone with the number of innings he has shouldered.</p>
<p>Who knows if he has 3 more good years ahead of him.  But he sure as hell is a lot better than Lowe, and a contending team like the Rangers, with ample cash should think twice.  Maybe, they consider themselves in a brief rebuilding period with the loss of Hamilton, Napoli and Young and with Profar and Olt still young and unproven, but turning to the always ready to implode Lowe is hardly the answer.</p>
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		<title>By: paperlions</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paperlions]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2013 14:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is about a 90% chance his best seasons are behind him, but I still expect him to be VERY good.  He&#039;ll be 36 in May.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is about a 90% chance his best seasons are behind him, but I still expect him to be VERY good.  He&#8217;ll be 36 in May.</p>
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		<title>By: abaird2012</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[abaird2012]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2013 14:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nobody (except maybe Bicepts ...) is a bigger Halladay booster than I am, but there&#039;s about a 33% chance that his best seasons are behind him. Hope it&#039;s not true, but ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nobody (except maybe Bicepts &#8230;) is a bigger Halladay booster than I am, but there&#8217;s about a 33% chance that his best seasons are behind him. Hope it&#8217;s not true, but &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: abaird2012</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2013 14:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[... from a poor fam-i-lee ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; from a poor fam-i-lee &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: officialgame</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[officialgame]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2013 13:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Phillies have Doc, Lee, Hamels and no injuries. You sir are an imbecile.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Phillies have Doc, Lee, Hamels and no injuries. You sir are an imbecile.</p>
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		<title>By: deep64blue</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2013 13:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Phillies??  Seriously??]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Phillies??  Seriously??</p>
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		<title>By: chacochicken</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chacochicken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2013 13:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He&#039;s just a poor boy and nobody loves him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s just a poor boy and nobody loves him.</p>
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		<title>By: paperlions</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paperlions]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2013 12:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of course it is about performance.

Look at the deal given to Dempster.  2 years and $26.5M

Dempster has been a quality pitcher longer than Lohse and is only 1 yr older and he had to scrounge for that deal.  Lohse aimed far to high to start and teams filled holes without considering him because their were guys that were better value.  When a pitcher is asking for money that requires him to repeat his best years for a team to get its money&#039;s worth...and he is 34....most teams will just cross him off the list and move on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course it is about performance.</p>
<p>Look at the deal given to Dempster.  2 years and $26.5M</p>
<p>Dempster has been a quality pitcher longer than Lohse and is only 1 yr older and he had to scrounge for that deal.  Lohse aimed far to high to start and teams filled holes without considering him because their were guys that were better value.  When a pitcher is asking for money that requires him to repeat his best years for a team to get its money&#8217;s worth&#8230;and he is 34&#8230;.most teams will just cross him off the list and move on.</p>
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		<title>By: paperlions</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/06/the-rangers-arent-signing-kyle-lohse/comment-page-1/#comment-452349</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paperlions]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2013 12:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A couple of things.

Losing the pick won&#039;t have much effect on the draft budget because the Rangers 1st round pick will sign for at least 90% of slot, probably more.  In other words, it is really about losing the pick.  Agents already figured out in the first year that their clients have leverage because if a team doesn&#039;t sign him they lose all of the slot money from their draft budget.  No team with a mid-to-late 1st round pick is going to be saving 500K or more to use on later picks.

Yeah, losing the pick would suck...but at least 2/3 of 1st round picks never sniff the majors....so a team is losing a chance at a good player, but only a chance.

A number of teams have already surrendered picks, so they would be giving up a later pick.

The entire reason Lohse hasn&#039;t signed is related to his asking price/years, his age, and expected regression.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of things.</p>
<p>Losing the pick won&#8217;t have much effect on the draft budget because the Rangers 1st round pick will sign for at least 90% of slot, probably more.  In other words, it is really about losing the pick.  Agents already figured out in the first year that their clients have leverage because if a team doesn&#8217;t sign him they lose all of the slot money from their draft budget.  No team with a mid-to-late 1st round pick is going to be saving 500K or more to use on later picks.</p>
<p>Yeah, losing the pick would suck&#8230;but at least 2/3 of 1st round picks never sniff the majors&#8230;.so a team is losing a chance at a good player, but only a chance.</p>
<p>A number of teams have already surrendered picks, so they would be giving up a later pick.</p>
<p>The entire reason Lohse hasn&#8217;t signed is related to his asking price/years, his age, and expected regression.</p>
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		<title>By: polonelmeagrejr</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[polonelmeagrejr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2013 11:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Scott Boras, since he&#039;s taken on the former Pope Bendict as a client has beeen neglecting is SPorts clients. From his offfice, &quot;Someone with the qualifications of  Mr. Ratziger comes on the market once in a milennia. THre are a number of Eastern European countries that have inquired about him already. ANd No there will be no &quot;Hometown Discount for the ROman CHurch.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott Boras, since he&#8217;s taken on the former Pope Bendict as a client has beeen neglecting is SPorts clients. From his offfice, &#8220;Someone with the qualifications of  Mr. Ratziger comes on the market once in a milennia. THre are a number of Eastern European countries that have inquired about him already. ANd No there will be no &#8220;Hometown Discount for the ROman CHurch.</p>
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		<title>By: zipsports</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/06/the-rangers-arent-signing-kyle-lohse/comment-page-1/#comment-452331</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[zipsports]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2013 06:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bottom line is Loshe isn&#039;t that good for the money Boras wants. He was great the last few years for my redbirds but he just isn&#039;t a &quot;break the bank&quot; type of guy. Reminds me of when the Brewers gave Jeff Suppan the big contract.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bottom line is Loshe isn&#8217;t that good for the money Boras wants. He was great the last few years for my redbirds but he just isn&#8217;t a &#8220;break the bank&#8221; type of guy. Reminds me of when the Brewers gave Jeff Suppan the big contract.</p>
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		<title>By: mscxvd</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mscxvd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2013 04:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[possibly your first born child?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>possibly your first born child?</p>
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		<title>By: mscxvd</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/06/the-rangers-arent-signing-kyle-lohse/comment-page-1/#comment-452313</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2013 04:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[will the cardinals PLEASE resign lohse and get rid of westbrook! release him, trade him, throw him in a ditch of the interstate, i dont care just get rid of him. Its nothing against westbrook personally but I was against aquiring him in the first place]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>will the cardinals PLEASE resign lohse and get rid of westbrook! release him, trade him, throw him in a ditch of the interstate, i dont care just get rid of him. Its nothing against westbrook personally but I was against aquiring him in the first place</p>
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		<title>By: tfbuckfutter</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/06/the-rangers-arent-signing-kyle-lohse/comment-page-1/#comment-452302</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tfbuckfutter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2013 03:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just got the weirdest phone call from Scott Boras. He wanted me to sign a 3 year contract for Kyle Lohse to mow my lawn.

It was a fairly reasonable deal, but I don&#039;t know how I&#039;ll come up with a 1st round pick for compensation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just got the weirdest phone call from Scott Boras. He wanted me to sign a 3 year contract for Kyle Lohse to mow my lawn.</p>
<p>It was a fairly reasonable deal, but I don&#8217;t know how I&#8217;ll come up with a 1st round pick for compensation.</p>
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		<title>By: jwbiii</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2013 03:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Or a pitcher who&#039;s had an ERA over 5 the last two seasons and will turn 40 in June.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or a pitcher who&#8217;s had an ERA over 5 the last two seasons and will turn 40 in June.</p>
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		<title>By: einjzmolf</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[einjzmolf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2013 03:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[but his goatee would mirror the texas T so well! it would be absolutely adorable!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but his goatee would mirror the texas T so well! it would be absolutely adorable!</p>
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		<title>By: 13arod</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[13arod]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2013 03:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They choose dereick lowe over him they got a solid pitcher for less money]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They choose dereick lowe over him they got a solid pitcher for less money</p>
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		<title>By: cackalackyank</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cackalackyank]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2013 02:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey can Lohse play first base?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey can Lohse play first base?</p>
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		<title>By: onbucky96</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[onbucky96]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2013 02:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another oppertunity to bash Scott Boras...too easy, not feeling it today.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another oppertunity to bash Scott Boras&#8230;too easy, not feeling it today.</p>
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		<title>By: js20011041</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2013 02:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can anyone blame the Rangers?  Lohse isn&#039;t worth the 1st round pick without the slotting system.  He certainly isn&#039;t worth eating up a massive chunk of your draft budget.  Of course this is all going according to plan for the owners.  All of the changes made in this current CBA were about shifting money away from labor and putting it back in the hands of the owners.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can anyone blame the Rangers?  Lohse isn&#8217;t worth the 1st round pick without the slotting system.  He certainly isn&#8217;t worth eating up a massive chunk of your draft budget.  Of course this is all going according to plan for the owners.  All of the changes made in this current CBA were about shifting money away from labor and putting it back in the hands of the owners.</p>
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		<title>By: markofapro</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[markofapro]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2013 02:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He&#039;s gonna sign before Rule 4. There is gonna be a contending team that will be desperate for starting  pitching very early (Phillies or Angels) or a team decimated by injuries (exhibit a: rangers last year)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s gonna sign before Rule 4. There is gonna be a contending team that will be desperate for starting  pitching very early (Phillies or Angels) or a team decimated by injuries (exhibit a: rangers last year)</p>
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		<title>By: thebadguyswon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thebadguyswon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2013 02:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lohse wont be ready for the season now anyway. The smart play is for a contender to add him after the Rule 4 draft in June and not lose a pick.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lohse wont be ready for the season now anyway. The smart play is for a contender to add him after the Rule 4 draft in June and not lose a pick.</p>
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