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Charlie Manuel on Roy Halladay: “Yeah, it concerns me”

Mar 12, 2013, 5:30 PM EDT

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In the past Roy Halladay and the Phillies have downplayed his low velocity readings in spring training starts, but after today’s ugly outing in which he threw in the mid-80s and got knocked around manager Charlie Manuel and pitching coach Rich Dubee were a little more open about things.

David Murphy of the Philadelphia Daily News noted that “you could see the concern on Manuel’s face” as he said:

Yeah, it concerns me. But at the same time, I been in the game long enough to know that if there’s nothing wrong with him, you keep working with him. If he’s healthy and well and there’s nothing wrong with him, then he’s gotta get stretched out and everything.

Halladay has said he’s healthy, but described himself as “lethargic” after throwing too many pitches in bullpen sessions before today’s start.

  1. greymares - Mar 12, 2013 at 5:34 PM

    there you go it’s lethargic, works for me.

    • fanofevilempire - Mar 12, 2013 at 7:29 PM

      He looks like he is hopeless and has given up in that picture, Charlie
      better call Dr. Phil.

      • captainwisdom8888 - Mar 12, 2013 at 7:50 PM

        such a bummer to hear this. roy halladay is good for baseball, not just philly fans

      • bolweevils2 - Mar 13, 2013 at 8:45 AM

        It’s a bummer the Roy Halladay is getting roughed up in spring training? Don’t read too much into spring training. If he’s getting hit hard when the real games begin then you can start to be worried.

  2. stercuilus65 - Mar 12, 2013 at 5:50 PM

    He is washed up, it happens to the best and he was the best but he is a shadow of what he was.

  3. imthewiz77 - Mar 12, 2013 at 5:52 PM

    Doesn’t look good, He needs to alter his approach or do something to keep hitters off balance. Hopefully this is just a blip on the radar.

  4. randygnyc - Mar 12, 2013 at 5:52 PM

    Roy knows the truth, and if this is where his new reality resides, he’ll be hosting a press conference sooner rather than later. No way Doc hangs around just to collect a check (no matter how enormous).

    • paperlions - Mar 13, 2013 at 7:46 AM

      What truth would that be?

      There is also no reason to expect Halladay to just give up rather than to figure out the problem and try to fix it. If every pitcher that experienced temporary struggles and velocity loss quit because of some alleged truth, all would be retired by the time they were 25.

  5. thesmedman - Mar 12, 2013 at 5:54 PM

    He is probably shot (and I am a Phillies fan). But, i like his excuse – it’s better than what Josh Hamilton gave in September last year with Texas!

    My advice to Roy is to head to NYC and have a Big Gulp…

    • bronxbomber213 - Mar 12, 2013 at 7:42 PM

      but not too much..actually he should check with Bloomberg to see how many ozs he can have in one glass….

  6. bronxbomber213 - Mar 12, 2013 at 7:36 PM

    He’s still a boss!!

  7. cur68 - Mar 12, 2013 at 8:13 PM

    I hate to say it, since I truly wish Big Roy well, but, well…maybe all that pitching has caught up with his bicepts?

    • historiophiliac - Mar 12, 2013 at 9:47 PM

      Shhhh, he might be listening.

  8. butchhuskey - Mar 12, 2013 at 8:39 PM

    If Halladay does flame out (not saying he will), then he’ll be an interesting case study when it comes to the study of innings limits and pitch counts.

    • nolanwiffle - Mar 13, 2013 at 8:58 AM

      Pitch counts? The dude is going to be 36 in May…….the end is nigh.

  9. Jonny 5 - Mar 12, 2013 at 9:59 PM

    Roy just needs some cheese steaks. mmmmm cheese steaks…….

  10. andreweac - Mar 13, 2013 at 12:17 AM

    Paging Kobe Bryant’s medical providers in Germany…

  11. dmb182 - Mar 13, 2013 at 1:23 AM

    i wont believe it. guy’s the doc. he’ll be fine.

  12. coryfor3 - Mar 13, 2013 at 2:36 AM

    Maybe it’s the 500 innings a year he’s pitched for the last 20 years. Yeah- it’s the bullpen sessions….

  13. buffalo65 - Mar 13, 2013 at 7:20 AM

    If he wants to pitch for a contender,(Toronto) he’d better shape up.

  14. dcowboyfan - Mar 13, 2013 at 10:50 AM

    He’s tired already and its only spring training ?? Probably hurt his arm cashing that fat paycheck at the ban…” Doc’s an arrogant douche bag !!!!!! Always an excuse…..The Philadelphia sports team ways!!!!

  15. mungman69 - Mar 15, 2013 at 7:45 PM

    Two years ago his fastball was clocked at 94mph. Last year his fastest was only 88mph. Yesterday he got one pitch to hit 87mph.
    He retired 8 batters but allowed 11 to reach base. Plus one wild pitch. If he can’t go the Phillies are done.
    Washington & Atlanta are real strong.

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