Comments on: The Astrodome will apparently continue to rust and crumble to nothingness http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/12/the-astrodome-will-apparently-continue-to-rust-and-crumble-to-nothingness/ Baseball. Baseball. And then a bit more baseball. Wed, 22 May 2013 11:23:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: zoel0005 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/12/the-astrodome-will-apparently-continue-to-rust-and-crumble-to-nothingness/comment-page-1/#comment-456091 Thu, 14 Mar 2013 19:30:50 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=302823#comment-456091 The Metrodome in Minneapolis will be demolished and replaced with the new Vikings Stadium in the same spot. With our long winters and chilly temps, it leaves for plenty of time for critical thinking and decision making, apparently.

]]> By: peoplesrepublic0fdabayarea http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/12/the-astrodome-will-apparently-continue-to-rust-and-crumble-to-nothingness/comment-page-1/#comment-455443 Wed, 13 Mar 2013 15:59:32 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=302823#comment-455443 get the heroic people’s liberation army of north korea to test a missile on it in the name of the palestinian people!

]]> By: superpriebe http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/12/the-astrodome-will-apparently-continue-to-rust-and-crumble-to-nothingness/comment-page-1/#comment-455283 Wed, 13 Mar 2013 05:27:57 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=302823#comment-455283 I’m calling BS. The Padres have had nearly a .500 record since moving to Petco, and they won the NL West twice. That’s a decent track record for a mid- to small-market club.

]]> By: cusoman http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/12/the-astrodome-will-apparently-continue-to-rust-and-crumble-to-nothingness/comment-page-1/#comment-455279 Wed, 13 Mar 2013 05:00:23 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=302823#comment-455279 I have to believe a decent portion of that cost is hauling away the leftover debris.

]]> By: cackalackyank http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/12/the-astrodome-will-apparently-continue-to-rust-and-crumble-to-nothingness/comment-page-1/#comment-455243 Wed, 13 Mar 2013 02:16:35 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=302823#comment-455243 I believe the reason for the high cost for demo is partly because it is so close to the ‘New’ Reliant Stadium that traditional methods for implosion cannot be used.

]]> By: cackalackyank http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/12/the-astrodome-will-apparently-continue-to-rust-and-crumble-to-nothingness/comment-page-1/#comment-455242 Wed, 13 Mar 2013 02:13:37 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=302823#comment-455242 It is mind boggling, but the debt in question is not from the oiginal construction. As far as I know the debt in question is from sometime in the eighties when they expanded the upper decks all the way around the outfield for the Tennessee Titans er I mean Houston Oilers.

]]> By: blazertop http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/12/the-astrodome-will-apparently-continue-to-rust-and-crumble-to-nothingness/comment-page-1/#comment-455207 Wed, 13 Mar 2013 00:58:01 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=302823#comment-455207 Blame goes to Bob McNair and the Rodeo. They won’t let anyone do anything with the Dome, unless McNair and the Rodeo get a cut on the deal. Follow the money trail for the truth.

]]> By: nomoreseasontix http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/12/the-astrodome-will-apparently-continue-to-rust-and-crumble-to-nothingness/comment-page-1/#comment-455193 Tue, 12 Mar 2013 23:51:29 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=302823#comment-455193 Still carrying $30m in construction debt?!?
That’s why you don’t want public money poured into a stadium.
Idiotic…

]]> By: prosourcetalk http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/12/the-astrodome-will-apparently-continue-to-rust-and-crumble-to-nothingness/comment-page-1/#comment-455179 Tue, 12 Mar 2013 22:58:46 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=302823#comment-455179 No wonder Stonehenge has been around for so long

]]> By: vansloot http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/12/the-astrodome-will-apparently-continue-to-rust-and-crumble-to-nothingness/comment-page-1/#comment-455174 Tue, 12 Mar 2013 22:35:02 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=302823#comment-455174 See: Roman Empire, Fall of the

]]> By: mrfloydpink http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/12/the-astrodome-will-apparently-continue-to-rust-and-crumble-to-nothingness/comment-page-1/#comment-455155 Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:59:00 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=302823#comment-455155 “The Houston Astrodome has sat empty for years and has been without a professional sports team since the Astros moved out 13 years ago.”

Meanwhile. PetCo has NEVER had a professional sports team.

]]> By: onbucky96 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/12/the-astrodome-will-apparently-continue-to-rust-and-crumble-to-nothingness/comment-page-1/#comment-455147 Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:42:12 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=302823#comment-455147 And boom goes the dynamite…

]]> By: professor30 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/12/the-astrodome-will-apparently-continue-to-rust-and-crumble-to-nothingness/comment-page-1/#comment-455143 Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:35:44 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=302823#comment-455143 what boggles me is that the county still owes 30 million on a building that is 48 years old.

]]> By: ugglasforearms http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/12/the-astrodome-will-apparently-continue-to-rust-and-crumble-to-nothingness/comment-page-1/#comment-455141 Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:31:11 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=302823#comment-455141 “Sad” was my first reaction too.

]]> By: multiplemiggs http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/12/the-astrodome-will-apparently-continue-to-rust-and-crumble-to-nothingness/comment-page-1/#comment-455130 Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:05:58 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=302823#comment-455130 sell it to the DOD and let the military blast the shit out of it for practice. Cleanup should only be a few mil after that

]]> By: historiophiliac http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/12/the-astrodome-will-apparently-continue-to-rust-and-crumble-to-nothingness/comment-page-1/#comment-455120 Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:43:29 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=302823#comment-455120 That makes me really sad. My folks went to the season opener it’s first year. They thought it was the future.

]]> By: kopy http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/12/the-astrodome-will-apparently-continue-to-rust-and-crumble-to-nothingness/comment-page-1/#comment-455111 Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:30:07 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=302823#comment-455111 Monteal has the same serious problem with their Stade Olympique. If I remember correctly, they can’t implode it for various reasons, so it needs to be dismantled. That costs more money than they can spend. Plus, they’ve gone through so many roofs, and I don’t know if they’ve found one they can rely on to host events.

]]> By: gunpowderjones http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/12/the-astrodome-will-apparently-continue-to-rust-and-crumble-to-nothingness/comment-page-1/#comment-455109 Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:26:51 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=302823#comment-455109 I’ll make it go away for like, $50 mil. Come on Houston, this is a great deal I’m offering!

]]> By: scoutsaysweitersisabust http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/12/the-astrodome-will-apparently-continue-to-rust-and-crumble-to-nothingness/comment-page-1/#comment-455103 Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:17:34 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=302823#comment-455103 For those curious as to why it is so expensive to demolish a building, I submit to you the following article:
http://blog.chron.com/ultimateastros/2012/04/16/experts-say-astrodome-demolition-price-tag-seems-high/

Basically, while it is believed the current estimates are inflated, (Similar domes ran near $20 mil to demolish) there are several factors that determine the cost. Including the current price of scrap, and if they plan on ever re-using the property for any new construction.

]]> By: cur68 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/12/the-astrodome-will-apparently-continue-to-rust-and-crumble-to-nothingness/comment-page-1/#comment-455091 Tue, 12 Mar 2013 19:54:30 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=302823#comment-455091 If they’d built that thing out of Lego it’d be sturdier.

]]> By: missthemexpos http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/12/the-astrodome-will-apparently-continue-to-rust-and-crumble-to-nothingness/comment-page-1/#comment-455079 Tue, 12 Mar 2013 19:47:11 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=302823#comment-455079 Still amazes me that no one ever got seriously hurt with the all the large (thousands of pounds) chunks of concrete that have fallen off of the Big Owe over the years.

]]> By: cur68 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/12/the-astrodome-will-apparently-continue-to-rust-and-crumble-to-nothingness/comment-page-1/#comment-455073 Tue, 12 Mar 2013 19:35:49 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=302823#comment-455073 $70 mill? HA! The Big Owe in Montreal costs north of $264 million Canadian and it’s falling down on its own! I bet Les Québécois would give to mere $70 mil to be rid of that thing.

]]> By: mrlaloosh http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/12/the-astrodome-will-apparently-continue-to-rust-and-crumble-to-nothingness/comment-page-1/#comment-455071 Tue, 12 Mar 2013 19:33:17 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=302823#comment-455071 Just implode that ugly thing. Useless building. Make BP pay to have it done.

]]> By: lyon810 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/12/the-astrodome-will-apparently-continue-to-rust-and-crumble-to-nothingness/comment-page-1/#comment-455068 Tue, 12 Mar 2013 19:30:56 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=302823#comment-455068 Astrodome, meet Olympic Stadium

]]> By: Marty McKee http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/12/the-astrodome-will-apparently-continue-to-rust-and-crumble-to-nothingness/comment-page-1/#comment-455067 Tue, 12 Mar 2013 19:28:08 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=302823#comment-455067 How could it possibly cost $70 million to knock a structure down?

]]> By: sportsdrenched http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/12/the-astrodome-will-apparently-continue-to-rust-and-crumble-to-nothingness/comment-page-1/#comment-455066 Tue, 12 Mar 2013 19:25:41 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=302823#comment-455066 On a smaller scale I see this a lot with farms around here. The prairie is littered with farm houses. Some of them rather elaborate with balconies and large verandas. Problem is. The owners pass away, and the kin, long since fled out of state are perfectly content to let house rot while leasing the farm land to those still farming in the area.

Too expensive to sell/demolish. Too expensive to renovate. I wonder how many times in human history that perfectly good structures and shelters were abandon because no one wanted them?

]]> By: carbydrash http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/12/the-astrodome-will-apparently-continue-to-rust-and-crumble-to-nothingness/comment-page-1/#comment-455058 Tue, 12 Mar 2013 19:15:10 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=302823#comment-455058 “cost to demolish it is thought to be upwards of $70 million. Renovating it for some use or another will be a couple hundred million.”

This is a fascinating issue that I’ve seen come up numerous times. New York was dealing recently with issues regarding the future destruction of the Tappan Zee Bridge*…it needs to be replaced, it cost a couple hundred million much to tear down, which was deemed as too much, but also costs $50 million a year to keep it standing.

I have no real editorial comments about this…it’s just strikes me as really strange. Has this always been a problem? Has the cost of demolishing things gone up? Or are just building too many things in ways where typical, more cost-effective techniques of demolishing will no longer cut it?

*The Tappan Zee is arguably the least logically placed bridge in America, as it spans the Hudson river at its most comically wide point. The bridge is over 3 miles long! The reason? The state wanted to build a Hudson crossing close to New York…but any further south was jurisdiction of the Port Authority. So, they decided to spend tons of extra money to build it at literally the widest part of the river. The result: a shittier bridge that cost far more to upkeep, a shorter shelf life and this current mess. Nice work jurisdictional bureaucracy.

]]> By: kjericho43 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/12/the-astrodome-will-apparently-continue-to-rust-and-crumble-to-nothingness/comment-page-1/#comment-455056 Tue, 12 Mar 2013 19:11:36 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=302823#comment-455056 Let them play

]]> By: philliesblow http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/12/the-astrodome-will-apparently-continue-to-rust-and-crumble-to-nothingness/comment-page-1/#comment-455053 Tue, 12 Mar 2013 19:09:17 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=302823#comment-455053 And I thought we moved slow in Michigan! Tiger Stadium was left up for 10 years after the Tigers left and the Silverdome is still up even though the Lions left in 2002. Thanks Houston!

]]> By: fanofevilempire http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/12/the-astrodome-will-apparently-continue-to-rust-and-crumble-to-nothingness/comment-page-1/#comment-455052 Tue, 12 Mar 2013 19:09:15 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=302823#comment-455052 70 million to demolish it, garbage sure does cost a lot.

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