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	<title>Comments on: A stat-savvy player talks about the value of Michael Young, intangibles and clubhouse chemistry</title>
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		<title>By: historiophiliac</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Mar 2013 11:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s okay, Robert Smith.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s okay, Robert Smith.</p>
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		<title>By: bigmeechy74</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Mar 2013 04:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I admit I have kind of a dumb reason for hating that song. But in the mid 90&#039;s every single cover band would play it, and what would annoy me is how all the girls would run out on the dance floor and sing along to it like it was their all time favorite. But in reality they had never even heard of it until they heard these lame bands play it. Because in 1983 they were listening to the radio. Not the violent femmes.... or the cure, or new order, or REM, or anyone like that... sorry for the long-winded reason. Jeez I even bored the hell out of myself with this. Sheesh.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I admit I have kind of a dumb reason for hating that song. But in the mid 90&#8242;s every single cover band would play it, and what would annoy me is how all the girls would run out on the dance floor and sing along to it like it was their all time favorite. But in reality they had never even heard of it until they heard these lame bands play it. Because in 1983 they were listening to the radio. Not the violent femmes&#8230;. or the cure, or new order, or REM, or anyone like that&#8230; sorry for the long-winded reason. Jeez I even bored the hell out of myself with this. Sheesh.</p>
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		<title>By: IdahoMariner</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[IdahoMariner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Mar 2013 02:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree. I don&#039;t get why this is so hard.  Saying that there is some value or benefit to a team from having a positive workplace (&quot;team chemistry&quot; or &quot;great clubhouse&quot;) is not the same as saying we know exactly how to measure or quantify it. It is just acknowledging what we all know in our non-baseball jobs. I was in an office that went from a positive place to a really negative one with the addition of two negative jerks with some modicum of power. productivity went down measurably for our office, as measured in output over the period before and after the additions....and we lost good people because the environment was bad.  why we expect baseball players to not be similarly affected is weird.  I love sabermetrics, but the idea that this specific group of professionals should be impervious to emotional or environmental influences is crazy - they are people, not machines.  hell, they seem to be uniquely superstitious, emotional people (i have never encountered anyone in my career who didn&#039;t change socks for a week because they won a case wearing them, or threw a water cooler at a wall after losing a case) (and if someone did throw a water cooler in a law office, they would either be fired, or they would qualify as one of the jerks who contributes to a negative environment).

We all work better in a positive workplace, we all contribute or produce more.  How that is measured is really problematic for a baseball team - do we measure it in wins? how enthusiastic a player is about doing PR? and how do we KNOW when there is a positive clubhouse environment,  and. who has contributed to that?  beat writers, as mccarthy notes, will know way better than national writers...but even they only get what they get from the guys willing to talk about it.
a positive workplace is something every good manager  should strive for, if for nothing else than to make managing employees easier.  more importantly, though, it  does affect productivity if you keep assholes out of the workplace and it helps people have better, less crappy lives. i don&#039;t think you get to add it to a player&#039;s WAR or consider it for awards determinations... but each team&#039;s general manager and team manager should be looking at it. 
for an enlightening read on the impact of positive vs. negative people in the workplace - and the value of a positive workplace, read The No Assholes Rule.  it does include some quantitative analysis, as i recall, but again, i think a baseball team is going to be impervious to that kind of thing. it&#039;s not for us to evaluate or reward, but for managers to keep an eye on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. I don&#8217;t get why this is so hard.  Saying that there is some value or benefit to a team from having a positive workplace (&#8220;team chemistry&#8221; or &#8220;great clubhouse&#8221;) is not the same as saying we know exactly how to measure or quantify it. It is just acknowledging what we all know in our non-baseball jobs. I was in an office that went from a positive place to a really negative one with the addition of two negative jerks with some modicum of power. productivity went down measurably for our office, as measured in output over the period before and after the additions&#8230;.and we lost good people because the environment was bad.  why we expect baseball players to not be similarly affected is weird.  I love sabermetrics, but the idea that this specific group of professionals should be impervious to emotional or environmental influences is crazy &#8211; they are people, not machines.  hell, they seem to be uniquely superstitious, emotional people (i have never encountered anyone in my career who didn&#8217;t change socks for a week because they won a case wearing them, or threw a water cooler at a wall after losing a case) (and if someone did throw a water cooler in a law office, they would either be fired, or they would qualify as one of the jerks who contributes to a negative environment).</p>
<p>We all work better in a positive workplace, we all contribute or produce more.  How that is measured is really problematic for a baseball team &#8211; do we measure it in wins? how enthusiastic a player is about doing PR? and how do we KNOW when there is a positive clubhouse environment,  and. who has contributed to that?  beat writers, as mccarthy notes, will know way better than national writers&#8230;but even they only get what they get from the guys willing to talk about it.<br />
a positive workplace is something every good manager  should strive for, if for nothing else than to make managing employees easier.  more importantly, though, it  does affect productivity if you keep assholes out of the workplace and it helps people have better, less crappy lives. i don&#8217;t think you get to add it to a player&#8217;s WAR or consider it for awards determinations&#8230; but each team&#8217;s general manager and team manager should be looking at it.<br />
for an enlightening read on the impact of positive vs. negative people in the workplace &#8211; and the value of a positive workplace, read The No Assholes Rule.  it does include some quantitative analysis, as i recall, but again, i think a baseball team is going to be impervious to that kind of thing. it&#8217;s not for us to evaluate or reward, but for managers to keep an eye on.</p>
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		<title>By: grumpyoleman</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 23:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I say we give all good guys half a point towards war since it is all subjective anyway.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say we give all good guys half a point towards war since it is all subjective anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: DelawarePhilliesFan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DelawarePhilliesFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 17:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are really fixated on Tim Tebow for some odd reason. That is neither pro-Tebow or anti-Young - just a bizarre comparison. 

Kind of like saying Roy Hallday is RG III]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are really fixated on Tim Tebow for some odd reason. That is neither pro-Tebow or anti-Young &#8211; just a bizarre comparison. </p>
<p>Kind of like saying Roy Hallday is RG III</p>
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		<title>By: paperlions</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paperlions]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 17:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Exactly.  The problem with the narrative around Young&#039;s career isn&#039;t that he wasn&#039;t good...he was a productive player a long time.  The problems are 1) that many act like he&#039;s always been the guy he was in 2005, when he had a great offensive season and 2) he&#039;s hasn&#039;t been a plus fielder at for over a decade and has been really bad much of that time (some of which isn&#039;t necessarily his fault as he was playing a position beyond he skill).

In short, Young was a good MLB player for a decade, but he was rarely as good as the narrative suggested....and the narrative wasn&#039;t Young&#039;s fault.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly.  The problem with the narrative around Young&#8217;s career isn&#8217;t that he wasn&#8217;t good&#8230;he was a productive player a long time.  The problems are 1) that many act like he&#8217;s always been the guy he was in 2005, when he had a great offensive season and 2) he&#8217;s hasn&#8217;t been a plus fielder at for over a decade and has been really bad much of that time (some of which isn&#8217;t necessarily his fault as he was playing a position beyond he skill).</p>
<p>In short, Young was a good MLB player for a decade, but he was rarely as good as the narrative suggested&#8230;.and the narrative wasn&#8217;t Young&#8217;s fault.</p>
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		<title>By: historiophiliac</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[historiophiliac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 17:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d ask about that, but I&#039;m pretty sure someone would gripe again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d ask about that, but I&#8217;m pretty sure someone would gripe again.</p>
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		<title>By: paperlions</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paperlions]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 17:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mine did....but then, when you move all around the world starting at 18, you don&#039;t have much choice.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mine did&#8230;.but then, when you move all around the world starting at 18, you don&#8217;t have much choice.</p>
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		<title>By: historiophiliac</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[historiophiliac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 17:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But it is not totally an individual sport.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But it is not totally an individual sport.</p>
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		<title>By: historiophiliac</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[historiophiliac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 17:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sucker. I&#039;ve pretty much scared the bejesus out of most of the guys in my office.  If any of them were under the delusion that making coffee is a woman&#039;s job, I have disabused them of that. Don&#039;t people raise their boys to be independent?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sucker. I&#8217;ve pretty much scared the bejesus out of most of the guys in my office.  If any of them were under the delusion that making coffee is a woman&#8217;s job, I have disabused them of that. Don&#8217;t people raise their boys to be independent?</p>
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		<title>By: paperlions</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paperlions]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 17:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of course, baseball is the most individual sport there is....compared to any other team sport, it is easily the most performance isolated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, baseball is the most individual sport there is&#8230;.compared to any other team sport, it is easily the most performance isolated.</p>
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		<title>By: historiophiliac</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[historiophiliac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 17:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Except if you have a contract and they have to live with your sorriness.  Also, good camaraderie contributes to team cohesiveness which can positively influence performance TOGETHER on the field.  When players on a team don&#039;t gel, you can tell.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Except if you have a contract and they have to live with your sorriness.  Also, good camaraderie contributes to team cohesiveness which can positively influence performance TOGETHER on the field.  When players on a team don&#8217;t gel, you can tell.</p>
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		<title>By: paperlions</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paperlions]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 17:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, I&#039;m the person that cleans up after everyone else without mentioning it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I&#8217;m the person that cleans up after everyone else without mentioning it.</p>
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		<title>By: paperlions</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paperlions]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 17:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, but efficiency is not the same as skill.  Happy baseball players don&#039;t suddenly hit with more power, have more range in the field, or suddenly learn how to work the count.  Jeff Franceour is the most happy positive person on the planet and he still can&#039;t control the strike zone.  In short, enjoying the locker room is nice....but it won&#039;t enhance the skills of team mates...and like it or not, skill leads to production.

Of course, there are exceptions in the other direction, a parent/spouse/child dying may negatively affect focus/performance over the short term...but these are guys that have so much ability to focus already, it is unlikely that a happy locker room leads to anything improvement on the field.

Baseball isn&#039;t a good parallel to the job place.  There are few jobs in which you are constantly motivated to excel because if you do not, you will be replaced.  Any analogous effect of contentedness on productivity/efficiency in a &quot;normal&quot; job is already accounted for by the fact that if you aren&#039;t good at your job in baseball, you won&#039;t have it for long.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, but efficiency is not the same as skill.  Happy baseball players don&#8217;t suddenly hit with more power, have more range in the field, or suddenly learn how to work the count.  Jeff Franceour is the most happy positive person on the planet and he still can&#8217;t control the strike zone.  In short, enjoying the locker room is nice&#8230;.but it won&#8217;t enhance the skills of team mates&#8230;and like it or not, skill leads to production.</p>
<p>Of course, there are exceptions in the other direction, a parent/spouse/child dying may negatively affect focus/performance over the short term&#8230;but these are guys that have so much ability to focus already, it is unlikely that a happy locker room leads to anything improvement on the field.</p>
<p>Baseball isn&#8217;t a good parallel to the job place.  There are few jobs in which you are constantly motivated to excel because if you do not, you will be replaced.  Any analogous effect of contentedness on productivity/efficiency in a &#8220;normal&#8221; job is already accounted for by the fact that if you aren&#8217;t good at your job in baseball, you won&#8217;t have it for long.</p>
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		<title>By: umrguy42</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 16:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was gonna say, aren&#039;t there probably 80 gazillion studies that show a happy workplace is a more efficient workplace? Gotta hold somewhat true in baseball, although I totally agree with &#039;philiac that it&#039;s only a contributing factor. Like the icing on cake.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was gonna say, aren&#8217;t there probably 80 gazillion studies that show a happy workplace is a more efficient workplace? Gotta hold somewhat true in baseball, although I totally agree with &#8216;philiac that it&#8217;s only a contributing factor. Like the icing on cake.</p>
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		<title>By: elmo</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 16:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Refreshing sense from Brandon McCarthy. Just about anybody who&#039;s ever participated in any kind of group project realizes that intangibles like chemistry can help contribute to producing positive outcomes. At the same time, the reason it&#039;s not always wise to talk about these things as baseball fans is because we&#039;re not in the heads of the players or in the clubhouse with the team, and because of media distortion and so forth, we can&#039;t really know what the &quot;intangibles&quot; really are. Better, then, to focus on measurable outcomes. But such a cautious approach can be taken to absurd extremes--to claim, for example, that only that which is objectively quantifiable exists, and subjective states either do not exist or are irrelevant, is not smart, it&#039;s naive and silly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Refreshing sense from Brandon McCarthy. Just about anybody who&#8217;s ever participated in any kind of group project realizes that intangibles like chemistry can help contribute to producing positive outcomes. At the same time, the reason it&#8217;s not always wise to talk about these things as baseball fans is because we&#8217;re not in the heads of the players or in the clubhouse with the team, and because of media distortion and so forth, we can&#8217;t really know what the &#8220;intangibles&#8221; really are. Better, then, to focus on measurable outcomes. But such a cautious approach can be taken to absurd extremes&#8211;to claim, for example, that only that which is objectively quantifiable exists, and subjective states either do not exist or are irrelevant, is not smart, it&#8217;s naive and silly.</p>
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		<title>By: historiophiliac</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[historiophiliac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 16:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We&#039;ll fund your social security anyway, Woodpecker. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ll fund your social security anyway, Woodpecker. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Alex K</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alex K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 16:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Going back to 2011 CPB was #11. The park factor was .997 which is as damn near neutral. I looked back until 2007 and it plays right near the middle of MLB pretty much every year. It&#039;s not a bad place to hit, but it is not a band box, either.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Going back to 2011 CPB was #11. The park factor was .997 which is as damn near neutral. I looked back until 2007 and it plays right near the middle of MLB pretty much every year. It&#8217;s not a bad place to hit, but it is not a band box, either.</p>
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		<title>By: historiophiliac</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 16:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He he

I saw the Milkmen back in the day....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He he</p>
<p>I saw the Milkmen back in the day&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: dsmaxsucks</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 16:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You know no one actually calls them &quot;the smart kid set&quot; without the prefix &quot;self proclaimed&quot;.  

And people who proclaim good people don&#039;t have a thing to do with winning baseball games expose why no one really considers the statisticians to be so smart to begin with.  The fact that the smart kids haven&#039;t figured out a way to quantify something doesn&#039;t mean it doesn&#039;t exist. The smart kids who fail to recognize this are in a different set, the one called douchebags.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know no one actually calls them &#8220;the smart kid set&#8221; without the prefix &#8220;self proclaimed&#8221;.  </p>
<p>And people who proclaim good people don&#8217;t have a thing to do with winning baseball games expose why no one really considers the statisticians to be so smart to begin with.  The fact that the smart kids haven&#8217;t figured out a way to quantify something doesn&#8217;t mean it doesn&#8217;t exist. The smart kids who fail to recognize this are in a different set, the one called douchebags.</p>
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		<title>By: DelawarePhilliesFan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DelawarePhilliesFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 16:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHapDS2fcFE]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR!!</p>
<p><span class='embed-youtube' style='text-align:center; display: block;'><iframe class='youtube-player' type='text/html' width='635' height='388' src='http://www.youtube.com/embed/QHapDS2fcFE?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;fs=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;wmode=transparent' frameborder='0'></iframe></span></p>
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		<title>By: chacochicken</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chacochicken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 15:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve never played WOW but I have played little league, high school and DIII ball. Baseball is more enjoyable when you&#039;ve got great teammates. Do you win more, hit more, or play better defense with fun or leadery players? I don&#039;t know. Having PADMY on the team is great if he&#039;s a part time player as the stats will tell you and essentially what McCarthy is saying as well. How much of the &quot;story&quot; is told by stats/advanced metrics vs. gut and &quot;intangibles&quot;? I&#039;ll go 95% to 5%]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never played WOW but I have played little league, high school and DIII ball. Baseball is more enjoyable when you&#8217;ve got great teammates. Do you win more, hit more, or play better defense with fun or leadery players? I don&#8217;t know. Having PADMY on the team is great if he&#8217;s a part time player as the stats will tell you and essentially what McCarthy is saying as well. How much of the &#8220;story&#8221; is told by stats/advanced metrics vs. gut and &#8220;intangibles&#8221;? I&#8217;ll go 95% to 5%</p>
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		<title>By: heyblueyoustink</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[heyblueyoustink]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 15:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[( shakes fist at anyone who throws dead kennedy&#039;s or dead milkmen anything )]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>( shakes fist at anyone who throws dead kennedy&#8217;s or dead milkmen anything )</p>
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		<title>By: historiophiliac</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[historiophiliac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 15:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Boooo!!!!

/throws dead kennedys]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boooo!!!!</p>
<p>/throws dead kennedys</p>
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		<title>By: asimonetti88</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[asimonetti88]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 15:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Say what you want about Michael Young, but he&#039;s played at an adequate professional level for a good part of his career.

Tim Tebow has never produced at an adequate professional level for more than 1 or 2 games his whole career.

I think a more apt football comparison would be London Fletcher or Takeo Spikes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Say what you want about Michael Young, but he&#8217;s played at an adequate professional level for a good part of his career.</p>
<p>Tim Tebow has never produced at an adequate professional level for more than 1 or 2 games his whole career.</p>
<p>I think a more apt football comparison would be London Fletcher or Takeo Spikes.</p>
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		<title>By: thegreatstoneface</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thegreatstoneface]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 15:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[...you know, good team chemistry is a wonderful thing, for the folks in the locker room.  makes everyone&#039;s day more pleasant, it&#039;s good to have good folks around you, no matter what you&#039;re doing for a living.

doesn&#039;t have a thing to do with winning baseball games, though.  the good face doesn&#039;t win a game just by being a good face, the good face has to produce, too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;you know, good team chemistry is a wonderful thing, for the folks in the locker room.  makes everyone&#8217;s day more pleasant, it&#8217;s good to have good folks around you, no matter what you&#8217;re doing for a living.</p>
<p>doesn&#8217;t have a thing to do with winning baseball games, though.  the good face doesn&#8217;t win a game just by being a good face, the good face has to produce, too.</p>
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		<title>By: polonelmeagrejr</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 14:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry, Guys. a lifelong baseball fan (I learned to read from the backs of basebnball cards) and I understand that the basic stats I grew up tell a very limited story.That said, the totallly committted sabermetric guys have to understand that even their extremely comprehensive statistical analysis still only tellls part of the story. And it had the added side effect of making them seem like people who get together to play and talk about Worlds of Warcraft. NOthing wrong with that, if you like WOlrds of Warcraft.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Guys. a lifelong baseball fan (I learned to read from the backs of basebnball cards) and I understand that the basic stats I grew up tell a very limited story.That said, the totallly committted sabermetric guys have to understand that even their extremely comprehensive statistical analysis still only tellls part of the story. And it had the added side effect of making them seem like people who get together to play and talk about Worlds of Warcraft. NOthing wrong with that, if you like WOlrds of Warcraft.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Calcaterra</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Craig Calcaterra]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 14:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I, like every kid since the early 80s, was forcibly-issued a copy of the Femmes&#039; first album when I turned 15. And yes I loved it and still do and occasionally still listen to it.

FWIW: my favorite song on it is &quot;Add it Up&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, like every kid since the early 80s, was forcibly-issued a copy of the Femmes&#8217; first album when I turned 15. And yes I loved it and still do and occasionally still listen to it.</p>
<p>FWIW: my favorite song on it is &#8220;Add it Up&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: bigmeechy74</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bigmeechy74]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 14:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hate blister in the sun]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate blister in the sun</p>
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		<title>By: heyblueyoustink</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[heyblueyoustink]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 14:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not at all! The image with the backround music would be a scene of comedy, not tragedy, A good thing, in my mind.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not at all! The image with the backround music would be a scene of comedy, not tragedy, A good thing, in my mind.</p>
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