Comments on: 2013 Preview: New York Mets

By: mungman69

mungman69 — Sat, 16 Mar 2013 17:15:47 +0000

One of the scholarship basketball players from Brandywine transferred to Albany. They are playing Vermont right now to go to March Madness. Bobby Fields transferred from Brandywine to La Salle where he started at forward next to Durette. He then played a little in the ABA.

By: mungman69

mungman69 — Sat, 16 Mar 2013 17:11:56 +0000

Miami & The Mets in the same division? Creepy. Atlanta, Washington & Philly all make the playoffs.

By: joejacks

joejacks — Sat, 16 Mar 2013 10:32:08 +0000

Loria is bad for baseball. He tricked the fans and taxpayers of Miami that if you give me a new stadium I will give you a competitive baseball team. Well you cannot be competitive with a roster full of young no names and low priced players. Good ol Bud needs to stop BSing around and hammer owners who do this or he should be ousted. Time for the taxpayers to rise up and fight the galactic empire.

By: thebadguyswon

thebadguyswon — Sat, 16 Mar 2013 00:23:26 +0000

Yeah man…I know that it is the top 50%. My point is the farm has improved in the last two years. So “neglected for 15 years” is hyperbole. If you’re going to bring the criticism, be correct at least.

By: mungman69

mungman69 — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 23:37:29 +0000

You finally recognized these Mets.

By: American of African Descent

American of African Descent — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 21:51:20 +0000

Oh, Gator. And to think that I used to hold you in such high regard . . .

By: proudlycanadian

proudlycanadian — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 20:36:01 +0000

Poor Bill. You got to do the Marlins and the Mets on the same day. It would only be fair if you were given the Jays.

By: tsi431

tsi431 — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 19:56:41 +0000

He bought all those players so he can secure a $600 million dollar stadium from the tax payers.

By: tsi431

tsi431 — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 19:55:06 +0000

Only on the Mets, is hitting 32 home runs considered a disappointment.

By: asimonetti88

asimonetti88 — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 19:50:01 +0000

“He has received ZERO credit for taking a chance in 2012 and increasing the payroll to over $100 million dollars.”

He increased it for like 2 months.

By: Old Gator

Old Gator — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 19:34:46 +0000

Um – last time I tried to follow calculations like that, I was listening to the Tom Lehrer song “New Math.” Just give me numbers I can calculate without having to take my shoes off, will you?

By: Old Gator

Old Gator — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 19:33:06 +0000

Try searching “Wilpoon,” which is a combination of Wilpon and your choice of lampoon or cartoon. Either will work.

And yeah, it’s Friday. I’m afraid that I can’t get worked up about any market but my own today, and I’ve got a fresh grouper ceviche marinating in the fridge.

By: Chris Fiorentino

Chris Fiorentino — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 19:04:30 +0000

First of all…chill, chill. It’s Friday and everybody should be happy and not mocking each other.

Second, did you happen to check out the Marlins 2013 preview, by Bill just a short time ago? Did you read this line,

“Let’s be honest, Jeffrey Loria and David Samson are bad for baseball.”

Third, do you now understand my post, directed pretty much directly to Bill, asking him why he didn’t put anything, not a single freaking reference to the Wilpons when writing the 2013 Mets preview?

To summarize…according to Bill, Loria is bad for baseball but the Wilpons don’t even warrant a single mention on their 2013 preview. Let’s stick to the comparison between these two specific posts, which is what I have done here.

By: American of African Descent

American of African Descent — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 19:02:34 +0000

You realize that top 15 is just top 50%, right? Or, in other words, the Mets’ have (i) a league average farm system that (ii) has decreased in ranking over the last ten years. And if the 2003 system was actually #10, and the current system is actually #15, that means that the quality of the farm system has decreased by 50%.

You would expect a rebuilding team to have a top farm system, not an average farm system.

By: American of African Descent

American of African Descent — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 18:57:38 +0000

75 wins? I’ll take the under.

By: thebadguyswon

thebadguyswon — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 18:44:03 +0000

The Mets farm is in the top 15 now. And back in 2003 it ranked in the Top 10….so pretty sure your statement about neglecting the farm for 15 years is coming from your rectum.

By: chill1184

chill1184 — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 18:32:45 +0000

Your mindless rants at this point are comical.

Im curious did you fall off the truck yesterday because anyone who follows any type of sports media knows that the Mets are always bashed. The Marlins’ issues only took center stage because of Loria’s history with running the Marlins and when he owned the Expos.

Heres are some facts

1. The Mets farm system hasnt had any decent attention to it in the past 15 years. Kinda hard to build a winning team when your farm sucks, baseball isnt football

2. As Gobias pointed out one can find plenty of articles relating to the Madoff on how it affected the team

3. The MSM (along with other NL owners) have no interest in shinning a big light on Selig’s blatant hypocrisy regarding Wilpon as opposed to Frank McCourt. The media doesn’t want to lose a punching bag and and an NL team in the biggest market financially crippled helps the rest of the NL teams. If your a business owner and one of your rivals is crippled your just going to stand there and watch. Your a damm liar if you say you wouldnt.

By: Chris Fiorentino

Chris Fiorentino — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 18:23:55 +0000

I’m 100% for fairness. And on HBT, Loria is unfairly criticized and never given credit for anything. He has received ZERO credit for taking a chance in 2012 and increasing the payroll to over $100 million dollars. When the Pirates got their stadium in 2001, it was funded over 80% by the public($180 million of the $220 million cost…$290 in today’s dollars) They increased their payroll to $54 million, but when the stadium was 75% full its inaugural year, their payroll dropped right back down to $42 million. Yet I never once read the words “Kevin McClatchy is bad for baseball”

Look, Loria is a ruthless businessman, but does what just about every player does…looks to make himself the most money possible. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. If he were this evil guy, then there would be reason to kick him out of baseball like everybody wants. And yet…he remains.

If anybody should be kicked out of baseball, it’s the Wilpons who can’t even afford to have the team anymore after their shady dealings with Bernie Madoff. Yet, last year it was McCourt and this year it is Loria. McCourt was stealing money from the team like it was his own ATM machine, so that was deserved hate. I just don’t see the rationale for hating on Loria. He is no worse than owners of other teams who want to make the most money they can.

By: The Dangerous Mabry

The Dangerous Mabry — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 17:56:26 +0000

Writing off Ike Davis as just a disappointment isn’t really fair given the way his season actually transpired. He was so historically awful early on (.550 OPS in April, .496 OPS in May) that his season totals end up poor, but after that point, he put together a pretty solid season (.255/.346/.542 in the second half). Should the early season issues be attributed to Valley Fever? Should fans expect to see him play more like his second half? It’s hard to say. But he wasn’t disappointing the whole year, he just started off playing so utterly miserably that his totals ended up pretty weak.

By: asimonetti88

asimonetti88 — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 17:49:36 +0000

Just out of curiosity why are you defending Loria so vigorously?

By: Gobias Industries

Gobias Industries — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 17:45:20 +0000

May I suggest typing “Wilpon” in the search bar in the upper right-hand corner of your screen? There have been quite literally dozens of posts on HBT about the Wilpons’ financial woes and how terrible they are for baseball. The bashing has been plentiful. Always remember, unless you’re a Braves fan, Craig hates all of our favorite teams equally: Phillies, Marlins, Mets…

By: Gobias Industries

Gobias Industries — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 17:30:54 +0000

Good one.

By: Chris Fiorentino

Chris Fiorentino — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 17:28:12 +0000

Weird…I did a search on “Wilpon” and no results were found. Oh yeah, they only bash the owner of the Marlins around here. What a disgrace. The Mutts are in the biggest market in baseball and they are putting out this crappy team and not a single word spoken about how truly awful their owners are. The Mutts payroll was actually LOWER than the Marlins last year and it is going to be even lower this year.

The Wilpons are TERRIBLE for baseball..

By: mybrunoblog

mybrunoblog — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 17:21:30 +0000

David Wright is on a plane to New York for an MRI on his injured rib cage. That could be very very bad. The Mets wont sniff .500 this year. I say 75 wins tops.

By: liamj55

liamj55 — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 17:09:44 +0000

The Mets. LOL