Comments on: The Yankees sue StubHub over store near Yankee Stadium

By: bigbells1

bigbells1 — Wed, 20 Mar 2013 20:18:05 +0000

Let’s suppose I’m on my way to Yankee Stadium to see a game. I decide to check and see if I can get a cheaper ticket from Stub Hub. I go to the Stub Hub website with my smartphone as I’m standing outside their door, and purchase a ticket. Then I go inside and get my ticket. My problem is being able to sympathize with both sides of the argument.

By: Kevin Gillman

Kevin Gillman — Tue, 19 Mar 2013 17:11:03 +0000

I normally wouldn’t, but it’s baseball so I could do that too. I did hear it’s not the same at Yankee Stadium, and I remember being in awe of the place in 2004.

By: Kevin S.

Kevin S. — Tue, 19 Mar 2013 17:08:48 +0000

Not sure, I actually haven’t been back since ’09. Not a big fan of the new place. Too sterile. If you’re going to bus into New York to check out a stadium, I’d say go to Citi Field, unless you don’t want to give the Wilpons any of your money.

By: Kevin Gillman

Kevin Gillman — Tue, 19 Mar 2013 16:55:20 +0000

I’d like to check out new Yankee Stadium, I think the best way is to go on a bus trip, like I did to old Yankee Stadium, seeing 2 Indians-Yankee games. I might even purchase a beer for $12 just to say I did…LOL How much is pop?

By: Kevin S.

Kevin S. — Tue, 19 Mar 2013 16:52:38 +0000

The decent beer is. I think the swill is still in the $8-9 range.

By: Kevin Gillman

Kevin Gillman — Tue, 19 Mar 2013 16:48:35 +0000

By the way, how much is beer? I was at Yankee Stadium back in 2004, and paid $9 for a beer. I had to do it, just to say I had a beer at Yankee Stadium. Is it up to $12 yet?

By: bh0673

bh0673 — Tue, 19 Mar 2013 16:40:00 +0000

The real problem here is for season ticket holders like myself I have to be able to sell the tickets I can’t use or don’t want or else I can’t purchase the rest of my season tickets. Yes I have been frustrated by the prices that tickets were going for on the secondary market but if that is all the market will bear then I have to accept that. So far however of the two season ticket packages I currently have I have sold those tickets on StubHub and nothing on the Yankee Ticket Exchange. The Yankee organization has lost sight of the fact that there is a limit people will pay to go to a game and even a small increase in price can be the difference between eating the ticket and selling them. In 2010 I had no problem selling every ticket I didn’t want for face value even to the ticket scalpers 2011 they raised the prices and even the scalper backed off. The market will only bear what it will bear and the Yankees deciding what the minimum I can sell my tickets for as far as I am concerned is an infringement and their meddling may be the final straw that causes me to stop being a season ticket holder. Between that and the $45 to park my car it just ceases to make sense.

By: Ben

Ben — Tue, 19 Mar 2013 13:48:15 +0000

But that’s not how capitalism works. The Yankees are actively working to stifle competition so they can maintain a monopoly over their tickets. That’s the only thing keeping prices propped up. It’s obvious that the market is totally happy with 5-dollar last minute tickets. The Yankees are trying to rub that market out of existence.

By: denverdude7

denverdude7 — Tue, 19 Mar 2013 13:41:09 +0000

There is a very simple solution to all of this.

Just move the stadium further away from the StubHub store.

By: hardjudge

hardjudge — Tue, 19 Mar 2013 06:41:46 +0000

Obviously you did not read the article. The Yankees and the Angels opted out of the agreement with StubHub. At least pay attention.

By: Run Lines Baseball Betting

Run Lines Baseball Betting — Tue, 19 Mar 2013 06:03:28 +0000

Excellent point. Seems like the Yankees are being pretty greedy. Tickets are already sold and they want to get a cut of the resale business as well. Beer isn’t cheap there either.

By: randygnyc

randygnyc — Tue, 19 Mar 2013 05:13:57 +0000

Funny thing is, I didn’t know I was doing anything wrong. I wasn’t selling discreetly as I yelled that I was selling ticket at face value. I was shocked I got cuffed. I really thought I was doing someone a favor reselling such a good seat, main box behind 3rd, at face. I was one of the few that had the charge “resale within 1500 feet), as opposed to “scalping” written on the summons. Once the bailiff announced I was charged with scalping, (which I wasn’t), I told the judge that the court had now been prejudiced against me.

If that ever happened again, I’d go down the block. Stan’s is still within 1500 feet. Usually, I’d just eat the ticket and have done so many times before. It’s not worth the hassle. But again, this was the WS and I thought I was doing a fan a favor.

By: byjiminy

byjiminy — Tue, 19 Mar 2013 03:18:30 +0000

What if you buy Yankee tickets from the Yankees directly, via the internet. Are you saying you haven’t really bought them, because you don’t own them till you pick them up? The Yankees don’t give two hoots whether you pick them up or not — the sale was complete when you paid for them.

Your argument is like saying you haven’t bought a house just because you’ve closed on it — you don’t really own it until you’ve moved in.

Have you truly purchased something if you have not exchanged money for it? Isn’t paying for something an inherent and essential part of the sale?

By: guatdajel

guatdajel — Tue, 19 Mar 2013 03:17:29 +0000

You’re being downvoted, but you’re right. What’s the incentive for them to lower tickets if they’re still getting 40,000+ per game? They’re a business, and business is good. Sucks for the fans, but that’s how capitalism works.

By: dowhatifeellike

dowhatifeellike — Tue, 19 Mar 2013 03:06:02 +0000

All MLB teams list extra tickets at StubHub. If the Yankees don’t like the way StubHub operates, they should stop using them as a middleman.

Should they persist with legal action, there are going to be a ton of empty seats this season when people can’t unload their tickets. The guy who saves $15 on a ticket (which has already been purchased at face value once) is going to end up spending $30 on your 500% markup food and drink anyway.

By: mybrunoblog

mybrunoblog — Tue, 19 Mar 2013 02:04:54 +0000

Next time go into Stan’s and have a beer with the potential buyer. In most cases an undercover will rarely consume alcohol while on the job. If he refuses to have a beer I’d politely walk away right after saying “tickets? What tickets?”

By: Kevin Gillman

Kevin Gillman — Tue, 19 Mar 2013 02:04:51 +0000

Sadly it’s like that at any ballpark, but it’s good to know they have it covered outside of Yankee Stadium.

By: mybrunoblog

mybrunoblog — Tue, 19 Mar 2013 02:00:14 +0000

Amen to that. I can get a can of soda or a bottle of water and 2 hot dogs for $5 outside Yankee Stadium. I walk across the street, enter the stadium and the same thing costs $17.50. Nuts.

By: klingonj

klingonj — Tue, 19 Mar 2013 00:37:48 +0000

if I printout my boarding pass and ticket at the airport, does that mean I purchased it there?

I would think you could use the tax law as the rational, if they havent taxed it at the pickup location. The Yankees (Like the rest of the pro teams) are also trying to get every nickel and sometimes they misfire.

By: hockeyflow33

hockeyflow33 — Tue, 19 Mar 2013 00:25:10 +0000

I always enjoy when people give legal opinions based off of nothing.

By: astiowa

astiowa — Mon, 18 Mar 2013 23:55:07 +0000

Several problems with your logic Craig. First, this is settled case law with respect to delivery verse the place of the transaction. Lots of states and municipalities wish the point of delivery constituted the point of sale (as then the whole question of how to enforce sales tax on the Internet would be resolved), but alas that is not the case. You need to have a physical presence and have the transaction take place there. In this case, people printing out tickets already purchased online, the transaction occurred somewhere else. Further more, and more importantly, Stubhub doesn’t own any tickets and isn’t selling anything. They are a third party market place for individual buyers and sellers and serve as an escrow agent for the transaction. They make a commission on the transaction between the two parties in exchange for the service provided. As such Stubhub isn’t scalping anything, although you may or may not be able to make the argument the seller is. If the Yankee’s want to try to enforce that law they need to go after each and every reseller, but since those are mostly season ticket buyers they are not likely to do that. If they are successful in ending resale of tickets, I predict they will not like the results as they will have far fewer season ticket holders, fewer attendees, and thus less revenue.

By: paperlions

paperlions — Mon, 18 Mar 2013 23:46:52 +0000

By definition, you are correct. Scalping is the resale of tickets for exorbitant prices above face value….but just because you aren’t scalping doesn’t mean the resale transaction is legal (i.e. there are resale laws in different states that go above and beyond scalping).

By: raysfan1

raysfan1 — Mon, 18 Mar 2013 23:45:54 +0000

Sure, people do it all the time–buy the ticket and pick it up at the will call window. You bought the ticket; it’s yours, it’s just being held by the seller until you pick it up. StubHub is essentially saying they’ve opened their own will call location. If no sales are being made at the location, then I don’t see a problem.

By: fanofevilempire

fanofevilempire — Mon, 18 Mar 2013 23:38:04 +0000

stay home!

By: Reggie's Bush

Reggie's Bush — Mon, 18 Mar 2013 23:34:53 +0000

You can purchase tickets at stubhub storefronts – physical or the printable versions.

Personally I wish ticket markets would get regulated. I go to many music concerts – as soon as they go on sale big ticket artists are sold out within 30 seconds – and they are on stubhub for 150% higher price (minimum)

I also have good friends who work at another ticket broker in NY. Their company gets a percentage of broadway tickets before their even sold to the public. It’s all a scam.

By: fanofevilempire

fanofevilempire — Mon, 18 Mar 2013 23:32:58 +0000

the cheapest way to get Yankee tickets is to steal it.

By: paperlions

paperlions — Mon, 18 Mar 2013 23:30:13 +0000

Do all ball parks even require paper tickets? They can just scan the bar code directly from a smart phone.

By: manchestermiracle

manchestermiracle — Mon, 18 Mar 2013 23:28:22 +0000

At this point I have to start believing the Yankees pay someone in their front office to find new ways for non-Yankees fans to continue to hate them.

By: crankyfrankie

crankyfrankie — Mon, 18 Mar 2013 23:28:02 +0000

Well played Randy. This Phillies fan is applauding you.

By: rcali

rcali — Mon, 18 Mar 2013 23:23:11 +0000

This just in. The Yankees have signed ‘Insert 40 year old player name.’ I do wonder, outside of companies who write off the expense, who buys Yankee tickets at full price?