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	<title>Comments on: The Rays say that the Tropicana Field site is way too valuable for baseball</title>
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		<title>By: Rockie D. Bull</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rockie D. Bull]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 20:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The land where the Trop sits is on the old gas plant site; the area gained value because the Trop was built there. Without it and the Rays, that land WILL NOT be as valuable as the Rays are claiming. Without their games and the events hosted at the Trop, Ferg&#039;s Sports Bar reverts to a gas station and the other businesses close because the St Pete Police station patronage will not nearly be enough to sustain the area and its current trend, plus there will no longer be any reason to go to that part of town. What the Rays didn&#039;t mention is, Al Lang field sits empty down on the water front, making it a much more desirable area for development than the land around the Trop. 

LOL - Old Gator; thanks to the new stadium deal in Miami, MLB will be hard pressed to hoodwink any other cities into building them a cruise liner stadium like the Blowhole. If Stu and Uncle Bud pay for it; I&#039;m all for a new stadium where ever they want to put it. Until then - the Blowhole in Miami will serve as the #1 argument for not building a new stadium here.  

There&#039;s nothing wrong with the Trop.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The land where the Trop sits is on the old gas plant site; the area gained value because the Trop was built there. Without it and the Rays, that land WILL NOT be as valuable as the Rays are claiming. Without their games and the events hosted at the Trop, Ferg&#8217;s Sports Bar reverts to a gas station and the other businesses close because the St Pete Police station patronage will not nearly be enough to sustain the area and its current trend, plus there will no longer be any reason to go to that part of town. What the Rays didn&#8217;t mention is, Al Lang field sits empty down on the water front, making it a much more desirable area for development than the land around the Trop. </p>
<p>LOL &#8211; Old Gator; thanks to the new stadium deal in Miami, MLB will be hard pressed to hoodwink any other cities into building them a cruise liner stadium like the Blowhole. If Stu and Uncle Bud pay for it; I&#8217;m all for a new stadium where ever they want to put it. Until then &#8211; the Blowhole in Miami will serve as the #1 argument for not building a new stadium here.  </p>
<p>There&#8217;s nothing wrong with the Trop.</p>
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		<title>By: martywinn</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[martywinn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 20:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s hard for me to believe this is particularly valuable land.  The stadium is some 13 blocks from the waterfront.  There is the valuable land.  To the south are blighted neighborhoods.  I don&#039;t think anyone is going to make an overwhelming offer on this land.  That&#039;s why it was available when they built the stadium.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s hard for me to believe this is particularly valuable land.  The stadium is some 13 blocks from the waterfront.  There is the valuable land.  To the south are blighted neighborhoods.  I don&#8217;t think anyone is going to make an overwhelming offer on this land.  That&#8217;s why it was available when they built the stadium.</p>
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		<title>By: muscles1331</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[muscles1331]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 16:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I live in Montreal and would whole heartedly support the Rays coming up here so long as Omar Minaya is barred from the country and Friedman promises to stay for a few more years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Montreal and would whole heartedly support the Rays coming up here so long as Omar Minaya is barred from the country and Friedman promises to stay for a few more years.</p>
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		<title>By: Old Gator</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Old Gator]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 12:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would just paint the dome with Freezone and keep on doing it until there was nothing left of it. It looks like a wart anyway. Then the Razed could claim their lease was worthless because it was a lease on nothing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would just paint the dome with Freezone and keep on doing it until there was nothing left of it. It looks like a wart anyway. Then the Razed could claim their lease was worthless because it was a lease on nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: nothanksimdriving123</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nothanksimdriving123]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 07:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hear Montreal is looking for a team. LOL.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear Montreal is looking for a team. LOL.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Glenn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 02:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Could the busted chair in the room be more valuable than the elephant that broke it?  If the elephant leaves, then it is just a broken chair.  That&#039;s sad considering that the elephant has been the most exciting thing in the AL East for the past few years.  The Rays should move to where they are more appreciated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could the busted chair in the room be more valuable than the elephant that broke it?  If the elephant leaves, then it is just a broken chair.  That&#8217;s sad considering that the elephant has been the most exciting thing in the AL East for the past few years.  The Rays should move to where they are more appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: indaburg</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[indaburg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 22:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[/throws cowbells]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>/throws cowbells</p>
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		<title>By: gloccamorra</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gloccamorra]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 21:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Even in Orlando, it would have to be a dome, and they&#039;re expensive.  I don&#039;t think Disney would get involved if it were in Orlando - they owned the Angels, rebuilt the Big A, learned the economics, sold out and never looked back.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even in Orlando, it would have to be a dome, and they&#8217;re expensive.  I don&#8217;t think Disney would get involved if it were in Orlando &#8211; they owned the Angels, rebuilt the Big A, learned the economics, sold out and never looked back.</p>
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		<title>By: pauleee</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pauleee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 21:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, that is exactly what they would be. Completely free of anyplace they could call &quot;Home&quot;. ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, that is exactly what they would be. Completely free of anyplace they could call &#8220;Home&#8221;. <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: paperlions</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paperlions]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 21:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They could always open an Amway at the stadium.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They could always open an Amway at the stadium.</p>
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		<title>By: fanofevilempire</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fanofevilempire]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 20:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[maybe the Rays should move to Orlando.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maybe the Rays should move to Orlando.</p>
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		<title>By: gogigantos</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gogigantos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 20:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Giants for a long time were despised among the inner circle of the sports world for paying for most all of their yard and providing and example of how it should be done.  The reward for paying for it yourself are outright ownership and income after debt is paid.  Just a few more years of service and the Giants own it all.
The better model according to the providers of teams is that towns, cities, and states pony up for most all and hand it over.
Well, that does make more sense for them, doesn&#039;t it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Giants for a long time were despised among the inner circle of the sports world for paying for most all of their yard and providing and example of how it should be done.  The reward for paying for it yourself are outright ownership and income after debt is paid.  Just a few more years of service and the Giants own it all.<br />
The better model according to the providers of teams is that towns, cities, and states pony up for most all and hand it over.<br />
Well, that does make more sense for them, doesn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: georgejarkko</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[georgejarkko]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 20:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[True - Downtown St. Pete has improved tremendously DESPITE the ballfield, not because of it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True &#8211; Downtown St. Pete has improved tremendously DESPITE the ballfield, not because of it.</p>
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		<title>By: dowhatifeellike</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dowhatifeellike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 20:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The only thing keeping the Rays at the Trop is economics. Pay to build a new stadium and pay to break the current lease or STFU and honor your current deal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only thing keeping the Rays at the Trop is economics. Pay to build a new stadium and pay to break the current lease or STFU and honor your current deal.</p>
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		<title>By: js20011041</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 20:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here lies the key issue.  The discussion is solely about getting out of their lease with St Pete.  No one talks about whether or not they can or should (they shouldn&#039;t) get a publicly funded stadium in Tampa.  They are by no means home free once they get out of that lease.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here lies the key issue.  The discussion is solely about getting out of their lease with St Pete.  No one talks about whether or not they can or should (they shouldn&#8217;t) get a publicly funded stadium in Tampa.  They are by no means home free once they get out of that lease.</p>
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		<title>By: echech88</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[echech88]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 20:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Unless the Rays have creative plans to privately finance a new park, I&#039;d guess the Marlins and Miami will serve as a very ugly reminder to Tampa politicians to just say no.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless the Rays have creative plans to privately finance a new park, I&#8217;d guess the Marlins and Miami will serve as a very ugly reminder to Tampa politicians to just say no.</p>
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