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Kyle Lohse wants Ryan Dempster money

Mar 21, 2013, 7:10 PM EDT

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Kyle Lohse turned down a one-year, $13.3 million qualifying offer from the Cardinals last November in hopes that he would find a lucrative multi-year deal in free agency. And after posting a 3.11 ERA from 2011-2012, there was every reason to think that someone would bite, even with the draft pick compensation attached. However, with Opening Day just a week and a half away, the 34-year-old right-hander is still out there waiting for the right offer to come along. And his asking price has gone down.

While Jeff Passan of Yahoo! Sports hears that Lohse was still asking for a three-year, $45 million deal one week into spring training, FOX Sports’ Ken Rosenthal reports that he’s now hoping to at least match the two-year, $26.5 million deal Ryan Dempster signed with the Red Sox over the winter. That’s a pretty steep drop from what many expected he would get at the start of free agency, but it remains to be seen whether anyone thinks a two-year deal is worth surrendering a draft pick.

The Rangers and Brewers remain in contact with Lohse, but Rosenthal hears that the Rockies have also done their “due diligence.” It’s worth noting that Colorado’s first-round pick is protected by virtue of their 64-98 record last year, but they are already stretched budget-wise and Rosenthal was told that it would only happen “if by a very, very remote chance he just flat-out doesn’t have anything.” Lohse may also be reluctant to sign with the Rockies since Coors Field is by far the toughest ballpark in the majors to pitch in. The wait continues.

  1. redguy12588 - Mar 21, 2013 at 7:12 PM

    Would be great for the pirates. But not worth losing the pick.

    • sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Mar 21, 2013 at 8:23 PM

      I believe the Pirates have 2 protected picks in the first round

      • bolweevils2 - Mar 22, 2013 at 9:03 AM

        The Pirates have the 9th and 14th pick. Aren’t only the top 10 are protected?

      • sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Mar 22, 2013 at 10:14 AM

        Yes, only the top ten. My bad, I had the order mixed up

  2. pensfan603 - Mar 21, 2013 at 7:21 PM

    Dempster plays for John Henry who over pays his good players, most owners dont do this.

  3. tfbuckfutter - Mar 21, 2013 at 7:28 PM

    Guess you should have thought about that when the Red Sox were handing out stupid contracts to middling players who are going to be terrible.

    • Kevin S. - Mar 21, 2013 at 7:38 PM

      The Red Sox made sure that nobody they handed out money to had a pick attached to him. They were never signing Lohse.

      • tfbuckfutter - Mar 21, 2013 at 8:08 PM

        Who would have attached a draft pick to any of the guys they signed?

        MAYBE Dempster….

        If he didn’t post an ERA of almost 6 while pitching in the AL for the first time (Seriously, who doesn’t see where that one is going?)

      • Kevin S. - Mar 21, 2013 at 8:13 PM

        My point is they wouldn’t have thrown the big money at Lohse that they threw at those other guys.

      • tfbuckfutter - Mar 21, 2013 at 8:17 PM

        Which is why he isn’t signed.

        Because only the Red Sox would be dumb enough to pay him Dempster money (I just pray they don’t notice Jeff Suppan is still available)….and even THEY wouldn’t sign him with the draft pick attached.

  4. sandpiperair - Mar 21, 2013 at 8:23 PM

    I want the next Kyle Lohse post I see to be “Kyle Lohse signs with . . . ”
    I never want to see another post about him waiting around hoping somebody will sign him. I used to be indifferent about this guy– now I can’t stand him. Sick of this.

    • sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Mar 21, 2013 at 8:24 PM

      Well then offer him $26MM to pitch at your house

      • tfbuckfutter - Mar 21, 2013 at 8:30 PM

        But only if your house is in the National League.

  5. jayquintana - Mar 21, 2013 at 8:26 PM

    Sounds reasonable. I mean, he’s not asking for Felix Hernandez money.

  6. hojo20 - Mar 21, 2013 at 8:34 PM

    He could’ve gotten Ryan Dempster money for the first year. He should’ve taken the $13.3m. Can’t he live off that net pay? His own greed cost him.

  7. hermie13 - Mar 21, 2013 at 9:32 PM

    Tigers only have 1 protected 1st round pick (the 9th pick from Appel). Their 2nd pick is the 14th overall pick, which is not protected (only top 10 picks are).

    • bolweevils2 - Mar 22, 2013 at 9:06 AM

      Tigers? You mean the Pirates.

  8. rvnc - Mar 21, 2013 at 10:04 PM

    We can all debate this until we’re blue in the face, but Lohse isn’t going to get either what he thinks he deserves or what he actually deserves. Teams have had months to have a look at him and they’ve all come to the same conclusion that most of us have, that a big multiyear deal is too much of a risk for a 34 year old and the loss of a draft pick, regardless of an excellent 2012

    Lohse will end up with the same sort of deal Michael Bourn got at Cleveland, less than the market rate for a player of equivalent talent ($75million for BJ Upton) but enough that honour was satisifed. I find it hard to believe Boras doesn’t have a few tricks up his sleeve and that Lohse will sign within a week or so, prob for about 3/$35m.

  9. savvybynature - Mar 22, 2013 at 12:11 AM

    When “Ryan Dempster money” is a thing, you know spending is out of control.

  10. derklempner - Mar 22, 2013 at 12:20 AM

    I still don’t know why the Cubs haven’t gone after him for $13 million on a one-year contract. They paid that much annually to Dempster (2008, four years for $52 million) and Jackson (2012, four years for $52 million), so what’s the harm in trying to sign a player they may be able to flip at the trade deadline for some more prospects?

    • sandpiperair - Mar 22, 2013 at 8:56 AM

      Because the Cubs are Theo’s team, and Theo saw how important draft pick compensation is. He used it as a tool to build the Sox into champions, getting guys like Ellsbury and Buchholz.

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