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Johan Santana isn’t sure when he’ll be able to pitch

Mar 23, 2013, 8:50 AM EDT

It’s already a given that Johan Santana will begin the season on the disabled list, but his comments to reporters this morning indicate that the Mets will have to make due without him for quite a while.

Yikes. Santana has been trying to build strength in his surgically-repaired shoulder for most of camp, but he hasn’t thrown off a mound since March 6. And given that his shoulder still isn’t feeling great, the Mets aren’t about to push him. He’ll need a handful of weeks to get ready even after he starts to throw from a mound, so he isn’t anywhere close to pitching in a game, let alone in a major league setting. Jeremy Hefner is expected to take his place in the rotation at the start of the season and it sounds like he might get an extended opportunity.

Santana, 33, is owed $25 million this season while his $25 million club option for 2014 includes a $5.5 million buyout.

  1. aceshigh11 - Mar 23, 2013 at 8:53 AM

    Damn, shoulder injuries are horrible.

    I don’t think Santana will ever be the same…he was such a work horse for a few years too.

  2. bizzmoneyb - Mar 23, 2013 at 9:06 AM

    wow.. Theets got practically nothing for their money. I wish I could make over $100 mil by just sitting on the bench.

  3. drubeatz - Mar 23, 2013 at 9:13 AM

    This has gotta be the worst contract in Mets history.

    • mybrunoblog - Mar 23, 2013 at 9:21 AM

      Bobby Bonilla

      • christos99 - Mar 23, 2013 at 3:33 PM

        Mo Vaughn, Oliver Perez and Jason Bay are candidates…

    • chill1184 - Mar 23, 2013 at 9:27 AM

      Bad contracts become bad because said player does nothing for the team that dolled it out. It’s very unfair to put Santana’s contract in that territory. Oliver Perez and Jason Bay were significantly worse than Santanas.

    • djpostl - Mar 23, 2013 at 6:48 PM

      Not really. The first three season they got 600+ innings of sub-3.00 ERA out of the guy.

      Even if he gives them nothing this year that means they got half the duration of the deal in the form of Cy Young level production.

      Bonilla had his final year of his Mets deal (all 5.9M worth of it) deferred and they agreed to pay him 29M plus between 2011 & 2035.

      Easily the worst/dumbest contract, even if it isn’t for the same big numbers Johan’s was.

  4. officialgame - Mar 23, 2013 at 9:30 AM

    Long term deals for pitchers seldom work out.

    • Kevin S. - Mar 23, 2013 at 11:30 AM

      That’s actually not true, at least not if we’re talking elite pitcbers. Kevin Brown may have gotten hurt towards the end but on the balance that deal worked out for the Dodgers. Mike Mussina worked fine for the Yankees,and CC is so far, so good. The problems tend to occur when you give it to guys like Mike Hampton who aren’t elite pitchers.

    • djpostl - Mar 23, 2013 at 6:53 PM

      Johan was already eroding when he got that deal. His numbers were showing some warning signs.

      Velocity had dropped, SO/9, BB/9, SO:BB ratios, HR rates…everything was heading wronf direction (even though he was still pitching at a high level)

      As early as late 2007/early 2008 we were seeing stuff like “What’s wrong with Johan Santana?” where they broke down these ominous trends.

  5. jhb64 - Mar 23, 2013 at 9:31 AM

    Trade him to the JETS maybe he will be ready then

  6. bigwayne75 - Mar 23, 2013 at 9:45 AM

    Peace out Santana, just retired and so the Mets can bring up another pitcher to take your spot. Last 2 season Santana has became a drama queen.

    • bigwayne75 - Mar 23, 2013 at 9:49 AM

      I mean Just retired, so the Mets. I don’t know why I put “and” in the sentence, maybe I need to proof read my stuff before posting. D’OH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • chill1184 - Mar 23, 2013 at 10:08 AM

      Drama queen? Really? The guy was on the shelf for all of 2011 because of his surgery recovery and then comes back in 2012 and still pitches his heart out. Please turn off Fatcessa, the rest of the NY media and ESPN, Santana isn’t this whiny entitlement athlete that some are trying to make him out to be.

      • bigwayne75 - Mar 23, 2013 at 12:01 PM

        I don’t need the media, every time I turn on the TV and look at hardball talk, it’s about Santana whining.

      • Old Gator - Mar 23, 2013 at 12:04 PM

        Agreed. They guy is stand-up. What would these idiots who don’t bother to look at the record before shooting their mouths off have him do – go out there and give up ten runs in two innings just to prove how butch he is? Cripple himself for life? To the extent that the Wilpoon circus was ever carryable, Santana and Wright have carried it.

        If Santana’s really down for the count, the battle for the basement in the NL East is going to get really ugly. As in, u-g-l-y.

  7. dondada10 - Mar 23, 2013 at 10:44 AM

    It doesn’t help that Marcum has been battling health issues this spring, as well. Factor in Gee is coming back from injury himself, and suddenly the one positive the Mets had going into the season (the rotation) is in serious jeopardy.

    We might see Wheeler sooner than we expected.

  8. drubeatz - Mar 23, 2013 at 12:02 PM

    I remember the twins being hesitant to sign him long term due to declining health. Hopefully the Mets have learned their lesson. Can’t wait till this guy is off the books. Maybe we can get a couple of prospects before he departs. This “should” be the last season we throw away. 2014 looks more promising. Even the Wilpons have to spend some money.

    • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Mar 23, 2013 at 1:12 PM

      Unless the Twins can read the future, in which case I’d be pissed at their crappy return they got for Santana. Once he was made a full time starter he went:

      GS – 34, 33, 34, 33
      IP – 228, 231.2, 233.2, 219.0

      his first year with the mets he went:

      34 GS, 234.1 IP

      How does that indicate declining health? (His peripherals were fairly consistent as well).

      • Kevin S. - Mar 23, 2013 at 1:16 PM

        If the Twins could read the future they’d know they were losing Game 163, kept Santana to win the division outright, and collected the dradt picks.

    • Kevin S. - Mar 23, 2013 at 1:14 PM

      No, you’re not going to get a couple prospects for a few months of a guy with multiple shoulder issues, even if the Mets eat everything he’s owed.

    • chill1184 - Mar 23, 2013 at 9:42 PM

      The only way the team will get anything for Santana is if he pitches his heart out in the first half

  9. zurnvs - Mar 24, 2013 at 7:41 AM

    Everyone knows they have to let this play out. But it looks like he could be out till late in the year then he will receive his 5.5 by this time next year.

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