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Quote of the Day: Roy Halladay says he’s a “horse’s ass”

Apr 9, 2013, 8:53 AM EDT

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Roy Halladay isn’t sugar-coating his ugly outing last night. Here’s what he had to say postgame:

“Some days you’re a horse, and some days you’re a horse’s ass, and I’ve been a horse’s ass for a little while.”

But Doc wasn’t just being flip. As Jim Salisbury of reports, he was pretty emotional after last night’s game, and at one point almost seemed like he was going to well up.

This is absolutely brutal. Halladay at his best is a machine. To see him struggle with the pitching and to see just how much it’s affecting him is one of the harder things to watch over the past couple of seasons.  It doesn’t help that, in some ways, he’s in denial too. Salisbury reports that Halladay believes his problems to be “95 percent mental” and that he’s just trying too hard or pressing. Which, with all due respect to Halladay, is the secondary thing here. His fastball has lost life and he can’t throw it by anyone, which is likely flummoxing him. This seems like a shoulder problem first, a brain problem second.

Here’s hoping he rights the ship. If he can’t in the short term it’s super problematic because his upcoming schedule is, on the whole, rather pitcher-friendly.

  1. darthicarus - Apr 9, 2013 at 9:08 AM

    Can people finally admit, or try to admit, that Roy just isn’t the pitcher he used to be? I loved watching him pitch and thought he was a great competitor but nothing lasts forever and sadly for Roy it appears his time of dominating is done.

  2. unclemosesgreen - Apr 9, 2013 at 9:23 AM

    I have to think that the denial factor is holding him back at this point. He may be ignoring possible adjustments that can help based on the delusion that he is going to recover his velocity somehow. There are ways to generate movement and deception without overpowering stuff, at the moment it doesn’t look like he’ll be exploring that mental space.

    In other words, it may be misguided of him to attempt to get back to being Doc. Maybe he needs to look at new pitches or approaches to help Roy get better with what he’s got left.

    • macjacmccoy - Apr 10, 2013 at 12:16 AM

      Its funny how people hear a narrative and then use it for the basis of their reasoning even if its not longer true. Last year Halladay’s velocity was down yes and at the start of spring training to it was also down. But its been 89-92 in his last 3-4 starts. But hey why let a good narrative go to waste right? Why talk about the real problem, the fact that his command is off, he’s been nimbling way to much, and he’s afraid to throw strikes, when its so much easier just to use the already put forth narrative.

      People need to stop being lazy and regurgitating what they hear on tv or read on the internet. Or they at least need to witness something themselves before putting their 2 cents in. Lets be honest we all know not everyone who’s commenting on what is wrong with Halladay has watched him pitch both games this year. Because anyone who has watched him pitch this year knows whats wrong with him and its not his velocity.

      Its like me trying to say Lincecum has struggled over the last few years because his throwing motion has finally taken a toll on his body. Yes that’s the narrative thats been put out ever since hes been in the league and I would probably get away with saying it and sound informed at the same time. But I dont watch Lincecum pitch enough and I have no clue if that’s really the reason why he has struggled. So how dumb/pathetic would it be for me to write a comment like that just so I could be involved.

      unclemoses this isnt about you at all so dont take it as an attack. Im just talking in general about how people hear one thing and then parrot it forever without personal knowledge. For all I know you have watched every pitch of Halladay and really think its his velocity that’s the problem.

      • unclemosesgreen - Apr 11, 2013 at 3:15 AM

        I never take it personal unless you say UnkMo is a …

        It’s not just Doc, and I think radar guns are partially to blame. Once upon a time as a pitcher slowly lost velocity he’d only notice once guys started hitting him, and then made minor adjustments and new pitches and such to gain efficiency. Now every tick of velocity you lose of your heater is up there on number-boards all around the park.

        When a guy is hanging on to a diminshed velocity he starts overthrowing. Overthrowing makes you lose control, you get wild in and out of the zone. That’s what I see happening with Doc now. I don’t think he’s afraid or nibbling, I think he’s trying to do what he’s always done and he just can’t do that anymore.

  3. paperlions - Apr 9, 2013 at 9:37 AM

    Not to be a dick (well, at least, not any bigger than usual), weren’t the Mets part of the “pitcher friendly schedule”? That didn’t exactly work out well.

  4. plmathfoto - Apr 9, 2013 at 9:37 AM

    I watched the game. So un Halladay like. Ball one on almost every batter, long pitch counts, etc, and getting raked by a bad hitting team (and I’m a Mets fan). Sad to see one of the greats like this. Also almost like passing a torch with Harvey pitching like he is.

    • tuberippin - Apr 9, 2013 at 4:28 PM

      Agree with all but the last sentence. Harvey is going to be a great pitcher for the Mets, but until he starts tossing complete games like it isn’t any big deal, he’s not going to approach the level of pitching that Halladay had going for him in his prime.

    • macjacmccoy - Apr 10, 2013 at 12:18 AM

      hey someone actually watched the game and saw what Halladay’s problem really was. “Ball one on almost every batter, long pitch counts, etc,”

  5. fanofevilempire - Apr 9, 2013 at 9:41 AM

    the quicker you accept Doc is finished the easier it will be to move on.
    time for Doc to get a rockin chair.

  6. indaburg - Apr 9, 2013 at 10:01 AM

    I saw Doc walking off the mound looking dejected after he was pulled from the game. It’s tough not to feel for the guy. I hope he can figure out his issue soon.

  7. slickdemetrius - Apr 9, 2013 at 10:06 AM

    A true competitor in every sense of the word. Whichever way this situation resolves itself, Mr.Halladay represents what baseball is all about in my opinion.

    • yahmule - Apr 9, 2013 at 11:09 AM

      Thumbs up X 1000.

  8. fanofevilempire - Apr 9, 2013 at 10:12 AM

    the quicker you accept Doc is finished as a power pitcher the easier it will be to move on.
    he can probably survive with less mph but he will have to be smart, crafty and hit location.
    if he can do that he can probably be a solid # 3,4 in your rotation.
    at this point he should start

  9. mungman69 - Apr 9, 2013 at 10:47 AM

    Maybe Doc will figure it out. He WAS so good for so long.

  10. phillyphan975 - Apr 9, 2013 at 11:22 AM

    Sounds to me someone needs a slump buster… if that does not work, then it is time to hang it up…

  11. mgflolox - Apr 9, 2013 at 11:31 AM

    I’m not a Phillie Phan, but I used to really enjoy watching Doc carve up batters. It is kinda sad to watch him struggle like this.

  12. Sorbet Te Charta Saccus - Apr 9, 2013 at 1:10 PM

    This reminds me a lot of the last hall of fame icon we had in Philly…Michael Jack Schmidt. Dude held on and held on, then one day, out of the blue, he retired. Today, with all the money these guys make, I highly doubt even a class act like Halladay will pull a Schmitty. But you never know.

  13. hisgirlgotburrelled - Apr 9, 2013 at 1:19 PM

    He’s over-throwing a ton of pitches that are so far into the left-handed hitting box that no one would think of swinging at. He touched 92 a few times, once in the 4th when already over 80 pitches. He’s getting up to 92 when he’s trying to throw his hardest but he’s losing movement and accuracy when he does that. He can’t throw the ball by batters anymore and he’s still trying to. He’s still got good movement on his other pitches so hopefully he can adapt to getting swings and misses on splitters and cutters and not trying to blow a fastball by anyone.

  14. decimusprime - Apr 9, 2013 at 1:29 PM

    Dude looked like he just lost his family in a freak accident after the game. Barely respondent, slow motion, and in shock. It’s like we witnessed when the light bulb went OFF, when he realized he no longer has the stuff. So dominant just a couple years ago. He needs a boost to his confidence and/or ego and it has to happen faster than 89mph.

  15. dolphins4 - Apr 9, 2013 at 2:58 PM

    There going to change the name of Philadelphia to stinkadelphia the city of brotherly losers.

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