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Post-Opening Day? Plenty of seats available in Miami

Apr 10, 2013, 10:30 AM EDT

Marlins Park AP

Get used to this in Miami. After a 30K+ crowd on Monday night, last night’s Marlins-Braves game wasn’t particularly well-attended:

Tuesday’s announced crowd of 14,222, as a matter of fact, is the smallest since Marlins Park opened last year. There’s a good way to look at this for whoever’s willing. Why not see this as an opportunity for a taste of the VIP treatment, sort of like Elvis renting out a movie theater for himself?

Pretty bad given that, historically, the Braves coming to town have often meant a small bump in the gate for the Marlins.

And when you put up six hits in two games, you’re not going to do much to draw anyone else in later games either.

Gonna be a long year.

  1. proudlycanadian - Apr 10, 2013 at 10:33 AM

    For some reason, I could not pick out Old Gator in that photograph.

    • DelawarePhilliesFan - Apr 10, 2013 at 10:40 AM

      That’s because he took the picture

  2. DelawarePhilliesFan - Apr 10, 2013 at 10:33 AM

    There’s a downside to declaring war on your fans?

    • heyblueyoustink - Apr 10, 2013 at 11:03 AM

      If you ever get a spare moment, look into the history of Ivan the Terrible. One of the best examples in history of how one properly declares war on their fans.

      • number42is1 - Apr 10, 2013 at 11:07 AM

        WOW! what did Ivan do to you to be compared to Loria?

      • heyblueyoustink - Apr 10, 2013 at 11:34 AM

        Hey, I was just offering *the* example of how to properly screw over their fans. the only difference is, the Miami fans deserve better. The Russian royals got exactly what they deserved.

      • tfbuckfutter - Apr 10, 2013 at 12:07 PM

        *Wow. Didn’t take long for this thread to get Loriaed*.

        *Loriaed: Any thread about Jeff Loria will eventually devolve into a comparison to Ivan the Terrible.

  3. DonRSD - Apr 10, 2013 at 10:35 AM

    I can’t wait to go in May when my beloved Mets come down. I’m going to go when our stallion Matt Harvey takes the mound.

    Hopefully, with my loud NY voice, the players can hear me.


  4. jm91rs - Apr 10, 2013 at 10:37 AM

    And they’re about to put a vote together for Public money for improvements to the Dolphins’ stadium???? Ha.

    • Old Gator - Apr 10, 2013 at 11:48 AM

      Eeeeyeppp. And you should see the “incentives” they’re trumpeting to get it by the voters on May 15. They make the freebies and specials the Feesh tried to hawk for the opener look like Lord and Taylor two percent sales. I mentioned here last week that I was talking to a North Macondo city councilman who frequents the world famous Luna Star Cafe about it, and he said – and this is close to verbatim – that Scrooge McLoria had pretty much killed any chance that the voters will approve any public funds for sports facilities here for the next one hundred years.

      I thought that was pretty ironic – Macondo Banana Massacre Field. One Hundred Years.

      Vote early and often, and just vote NO.

      • stex52 - Apr 10, 2013 at 2:39 PM

        I suppose, then, that a fan can look forward to 100 years of solitude in the stands. Marquez would approve.

      • Old Gator - Apr 10, 2013 at 3:08 PM

        Garcia Marquez would approve of Scrooge McLoria the way he approved of Pinochet.

      • stex52 - Apr 10, 2013 at 3:56 PM

        Or perhaps if Loria were taken out to be shot, remembering the taste of ice.

    • jwbiii - Apr 10, 2013 at 1:14 PM

      Here’s Neil deMause’s take on the Dolphins situation:

      • Old Gator - Apr 10, 2013 at 3:08 PM

        Too generous.

  5. uyf1950 - Apr 10, 2013 at 10:38 AM

    Couldn’t help it but had to post this. Just change “Term Life Insurance TO Marlins Tickets”

  6. whitesoxman77 - Apr 10, 2013 at 10:38 AM

    This is just plain sad.

  7. bringbackkosar - Apr 10, 2013 at 10:41 AM

    The Marlins radio guys may have to break out the late Skip Caray’s line back when the Braves were dreadful…”Tonight’s paid attendance as (X), most of them cleverly disguised as empty seats.”

    • Francisco (FC) - Apr 10, 2013 at 10:48 AM

      Or you can a do Harry Doyle: ” no runs, 1 hit… that’s it? 1 hit? 1 GOD-damn hit?” “You can’t say God-damn on the radio.” “Bah, nobody’s listening anyway!”.

      • huffdaddyco - Apr 10, 2013 at 2:10 PM

        You see, I think that’s what Loria is doing here. He is pulling a Rachel Phelps and trying to knock the attendance down so much that he can move the team to Mia…wait, never mind.

  8. Gamera the Brave - Apr 10, 2013 at 10:44 AM

    I’m guessin’ that that’s not a picture of Gator, alone in section 327, Lord over all he surveys…

    • Old Gator - Apr 10, 2013 at 12:36 PM

      You’d guess right. I am not setting foot in that accursed stadium on my own nickel as long as that lying crook owns the team. (Notice the wiggle room.)

      • Old Gator - Apr 10, 2013 at 12:37 PM

        Speaking of which, wouldn’t “The Wiggle Room” be a great name for a singles bar? My last idea for a name for a singles bar was “The Wet Spot” but a lawyer acquaintance of mine ran a name check and found out that someone had already taken it.

      • slappymcknucklepunch - Apr 10, 2013 at 3:43 PM

        Hey O.G.
        Would,nt “wiggle room”be a better Kama Sutra position?

      • ishwishfish - Apr 10, 2013 at 8:33 PM

        By coincidence, I also got some wiggle room today. Turns out that some of the sales people where I work get tickets through the company. They invited me along after I told I had sworn not to give anymore money to Loria, but I was missing my baseball.

  9. mybrunoblog - Apr 10, 2013 at 10:45 AM

    If they build it and Loria rips the team apart, no one will come.

  10. andreweac - Apr 10, 2013 at 10:46 AM

    Marlins should sign Tim Tebow. Dude used to pitch in high school. Place would perennially sell out just like magic.

    • Kevin S. - Apr 10, 2013 at 11:29 AM

      Tebow would miss the plate by two feet, fans still demand he start every fifth day.

  11. gerryb323 - Apr 10, 2013 at 10:48 AM


    • Old Gator - Apr 10, 2013 at 11:50 AM

      Already a classic.

  12. hasbeen5 - Apr 10, 2013 at 10:50 AM

    I could be wrong, because I was only half paying attention to the commercial last night. But I thought I heard that if you fill up at Chevron, you can get a coupon for an $8 seat or an $18 box seat. Anybody (OG) know if that’s accurate? I mean, $18 for a box seat is pretty damn cheap.

    • jashton11 - Apr 10, 2013 at 11:09 AM

      It’s definitely a real thing. I was actually checking it out online last night because I want to see the Reds play when they’re down here. Just go to and click on the Promotions link.

      • Old Gator - Apr 10, 2013 at 11:52 AM

        I think that if you showed up at the turnstile with a T-shirt that said “I (heart) Scrooge McLoria” and then claimed that you’d spent your last cent on the shirt, they’d comp you a skybox through the play…play…plaaaaaayyyyy…plaaaggghhhhh…I don’t know why I’m having so much trouble finishing this stinking sentence….

      • Old Gator - Apr 10, 2013 at 12:39 PM

        Incidentally, by the time we’re a third of the way through this Lost Planet Expedition of a season, the Feesh will be offering you 72 virgins if you buy a field box seat.

  13. realgone2 - Apr 10, 2013 at 10:53 AM

    So, when they are burning down the stadium will Loria be out there playing the Violin?

    • Old Gator - Apr 10, 2013 at 11:53 AM

      Nope. Boom-bass.

  14. number42is1 - Apr 10, 2013 at 10:55 AM

    so at what point does SOMEONE from MLB step in and kick this guy out on his ass?

    • chill1184 - Apr 10, 2013 at 11:07 AM

      Right around the same time Lord Selig kicks Wilpon out

      • Old Gator - Apr 10, 2013 at 12:07 PM

        The Wilpoons are like that wart that seems impervious to Frezone, aren’t they?

  15. mungman69 - Apr 10, 2013 at 11:01 AM

    How much do season tickets cost now?

    • number42is1 - Apr 10, 2013 at 11:03 AM

      In Miami Season Tickets buy you!

      • Old Gator - Apr 10, 2013 at 12:05 PM

        As old Zachary in Cloud Atlas would say, here’s the true-true about that: the Feesh have sold about 5000 – yes lady that is what I said, 5000 – season tickets this year (down from about three times as many last year). However, a sizable proportion of them are based on mandatory two-year (or longer) contracts that promised reduced prices in return for a longer commitment. Ergo, these hapless souls are imprisoned by their own good intentions and their gullibility in taking Scrooge McLoria’s word for his determination to “give the city the team it deserves.” We’ll avoid engaging how true that was for the moment, since there’ll be plenty of time to gnaw on it as the season continues to deteriorate. But for the time being, what that means is that you can subtract 5000 from the “official” nightly paid attendance and then, if you’re ambitious, subtract the two-for-ones, freebies and ticket stump discounters to arrive somewhere in the vicinity of the number of people who actually wanted to be there last night.

  16. asimonetti88 - Apr 10, 2013 at 11:28 AM

    Gee, this reminds me of the situation in Montreal. Wonder whatever happened to that guy that used to own the Expos?

    • Old Gator - Apr 10, 2013 at 12:08 PM

      The official story he put out to cover his tracks, I think, was that he died undergoing a quintuple-bypass to clear poutine from his arteries and was buried in an unmarked bank vault.

  17. bougin89 - Apr 10, 2013 at 11:48 AM

    28,419 people paid tickets and entered the game but 14,197 of them had anti-Loria posters and were ejected leaving only 14,222 in attendance.

  18. ryanrockzzz - Apr 10, 2013 at 11:55 AM

    “If you french fry when you should have pizza’d, your gonna have a bad time.” – Marlins fans on this year.

  19. Old Gator - Apr 10, 2013 at 11:58 AM

    The ackcherl attendance last night looked more like about seven thousand, if that. If you can catch the video feed from Macondo Banana Massacre Filed, you’ll notice that the cameras are trying very hard not to pan the galleries. The cameramen have to follow a policy like that for drone strike approval, you know, when they get an al Qeda target in their crosshairs, they send a release request up through channels to the White House, and after considering it for a half hour, they send it back to Langley for clarification, whereupon it goes back up through channels for final approval, and then back to Langley with orders to pull the trigger. Of course, by then al-Zawahari has already walked from his car into the cave entrance.

    Well, when a batter hits a fly ball towards right center field, or pops one up towards the seats near either outfield foul line, the cameraman sends a request to pan upward through channels to the Chihuahua’s skybox….

    • historiophiliac - Apr 10, 2013 at 12:29 PM

      Wow, they must do a helluva wave there.

      • Old Gator - Apr 10, 2013 at 12:40 PM

        Only if you can distinguish between a wave and a particle.

      • stex52 - Apr 10, 2013 at 3:54 PM

        If they are particles doing the wave, perhaps they were diffracted aways form the stdium by the entrance gates. Look for a concntration out at the edge of the parking lot.

        (Sorry that’s weird but it’s been that kind of day.)

      • stex52 - Apr 10, 2013 at 3:55 PM

        AND my typing has gone to hell.

      • misterj167 - Apr 11, 2013 at 2:06 AM

        Wave? Particle? Photons have mass? I didn’t know they were Catholic!

  20. Brian Murphy - Apr 10, 2013 at 2:58 PM

    How about the Indians only drawing about 12,000 last night with the Yankees in town. Brutal.

  21. granted42 - Apr 10, 2013 at 4:25 PM

    This is proof positive that no one care about the World Baseball Classic. No one shows up for the games, and MLB should just quit this charade. Oh, wait. This was an actual Major League game? Okay, so this is proof positive that Spring Training is too long. No one cares about watching Minor League players in games that don’t count. Oh, wait. This was a regular season game? Wow, if they keep drawing like this they’ll have to cut payroll for next year. 😉

  22. dowhatifeellike - Apr 10, 2013 at 5:02 PM

    Can an interested party do some math for me? Just out of curiosity (estimates are fine):

    cost of construction (bonds?) / repayment terms (interest?) = cost per year

    cost per year / (# of seats * 81 home games) = cost per seat per game to the city

    average ticket price * tax rate = income per seat per game for city

    What average attendance is needed just for the city to break even this year?

    • Old Gator - Apr 10, 2013 at 6:13 PM

      You don’t need math. You need Voodoo.

    • ishwishfish - Apr 10, 2013 at 8:53 PM

      it is not a city, it is a republic

      • Old Gator - Apr 10, 2013 at 10:30 PM

        Una Republica Platinosa, to be specific.

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