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The Phillies are going to give Roy Halladay all the time he needs

Apr 10, 2013, 1:03 PM EDT

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With two rough starts out of the gate, one has to wonder how long the Phillies are going to keep sending Roy Halladay out to the bump.  For now, anyway, Ruben Amaro is telling us to stop wondering. The Phillies aren’t shutting him down. From Jayson Stark:

Asked how much time the Phillies can afford to give Halladay to straighten himself out, Amaro told “As much as he needs. He’s Roy Halladay. He’ll figure it out … I think it’s more about him just going back to the basics. He just needs to throw more strikes and be more aggressive in the strike zone.”

Thing is, Halladay is a smart pitcher. He’s not missing the strike zone because he can’t locate it. He’s missing it because he probably knows on some level that anything he leaves in there is going to get crushed at the moment.  Maybe that’s the “95% mental” part Halladay was talking about yesterday.  But when you’ve lived for a decade on a live fastball, it can’t be easy to just keep doing that when you know you don’t have it anymore.

  1. rickhigginshtbro - Apr 10, 2013 at 1:17 PM

    Think there’s something else going on with him too…. anyone else notice he was sweating more than the rest of the infield combined the other night?

    • heyblueyoustink - Apr 10, 2013 at 1:32 PM

      I’m not an expert in the sweating habits of Roy Halladay. I’m just hoping he works something out.

  2. kevbarnett - Apr 10, 2013 at 1:32 PM

    Wouldn’t be surprised to see him on the DL with a lower back or hip injury. He is not generating the same torque in his lower half as he usually does.

  3. stoutfiles - Apr 10, 2013 at 1:37 PM

    He’ll be fine if he starts pitching like Greg Maddux did when he lost his fastball. Location, location, location.

  4. psuorioles - Apr 10, 2013 at 1:37 PM

    Not a Phillies fan, but I’m hoping Roy can get back to his old self. He has been a stud his entire career on and off the field.

  5. mungman69 - Apr 10, 2013 at 1:43 PM

    He has lost some speed and movement on his fastball. He hasn’t adjusted yet and maybe he can’t. Anyway, he is making $20 million this year and the Phillies have no one to replace him so he will pitch pretty much the whole season.

    • greymares - Apr 10, 2013 at 2:10 PM

      this is the same as i feel he is no longer and i believe will never be “Doc”. but he is Roy Halladay a major league pitcher. the sad part is HE hasn’t realized that he can no longer throw it past the hitters in the strike zone. He will. but mungman69 is correct there is nobody to replace him with,as of now. the Phillies have a few good starters on the horizon and I unlike most Philly observers do not think the minor league cupboard is bare. but for now Halladay is a season long starting pitcher that he and the Phillies will have to make the best of it.

  6. therealtrenches - Apr 10, 2013 at 2:24 PM

    Halladay’s slow start may be the biggest, most vexing problem the phillies have at the moment, but it’s far from their only problem. Even if he straightens it out and goes 23 – 2 the rest of the way, this team has really deteriorated. Even the farm system looks bleak.

    We need to brace ourselves, Phillies fans. And to think, some of you were all chirping “dynasty” 1 and a half short seasons ago.

  7. delsj - Apr 10, 2013 at 2:27 PM

    Jester: “He won’t engage. He’s lost his edge.”
    Viper: “Keep sending him up there.”

    Maverick figured it out (of course he did quit first). What else are you going to do? DFA him – no chance! Unless he gets injured or convinced he is “injured” and goes on the DL, he’s going the distance. On the bright side, his next start is against the Fish. Hell, that’s almost like a minor league rehab assignment. Then only 2 more starts until Chooch returns.

    • therealtrenches - Apr 10, 2013 at 2:33 PM

      And it is entirely possible that a major part of the problem is that Chooch isn’t catching him right now. I would expect to see some improvement when Chooch returns, but that can’t be everything, can it? Doc’s velocity’s way down and, as stated above, his lower body torque looks different than it did when he was blowing everyone away.

      • bleedgreen - Apr 10, 2013 at 2:50 PM

        Its way down? He was hitting 91 on his 2 seamer. He only ever topped out at 92 in the past that I saw.

  8. therealtrenches - Apr 10, 2013 at 3:15 PM

    @bleedgreen. I hope you’re right. I read “85 – 87” after the Mets debacle.

  9. carbydrash - Apr 10, 2013 at 4:25 PM

    I love that, despite the fact that we have 100+ years of showing that ballplayers show a rapid decline in their 30s (especially their mid and late 30s), everyone is still shocked when it happens.

    Halladay’s main problem? He’s 36. Hopefully he bounces back and is a league-average to slightly above-average pitcher. But hoping for anything more than that for a 36-year-old isn’t terribly realistic.

  10. sumerduckman - Apr 10, 2013 at 6:29 PM

    The man will figure it out.

    He is still the pitcher I would pick on a winner take all game, Humanity vs the Tralfamadorians.

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