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Johnny Cueto leaves game with arm injury

Apr 13, 2013, 8:55 PM EDT

Johnny Cueto AP

Bad news for the Reds: Johnny Cueto had to exit the game in the fifth inning with a right arm injury after getting one out in the fifth inning. He left after throwing a warm-up pitch. John Fay of the Cincinnati Enquirer suggests it might be a triceps injury.

The right-hander had held the Pirates to one run on two hits and a walk, and appeared to be his third consecutive quality start to open the 2013 season. Alfredo Simon came in to relieve Cueto, but allowed three singles as the Pirates took a 2-1 lead.

Update (9:00 PM): The Reds official Twitter confirms it is a triceps injury.

  1. contraryguy - Apr 13, 2013 at 9:01 PM

    Some talk on the TV broadcast about Cueto just having a cramp, but we’ll see. If Cueto is out for awhile, next up from the minors should be Tony Cingrani, who has had a strong April in Louisville.

    • thomas844 - Apr 13, 2013 at 11:32 PM

      Of course I want Cueto to be back for his next start, but if not, I would be very excited to see what Cingrani’s got after hearing about how he is dominating the minors so far.

  2. Rich Peters - Apr 13, 2013 at 9:38 PM

    Reblogged this on Tricky_Roma.

  3. saints97 - Apr 13, 2013 at 9:51 PM

    Just stomp that arm with spikes, that should fix it.

    • thomas844 - Apr 13, 2013 at 11:31 PM

      I don’t even think Jason LaRue is as pissed off nowadays about the incident as you and some other Cardinal fans are.

      • Old Gator - Apr 13, 2013 at 11:39 PM

        Of course not. Career over. Recurring headaches for God knows how long. Thug who crippled him having a nice career after a slap on the wrist. I mean, how could he still be pissed off about it? What on Earth is there to be pissed off about?

      • paperlions - Apr 14, 2013 at 10:42 AM

        By his own count, LaRue suffered over 20 concussions while playing catcher. The number is probably higher than that…and he was likely to retire soon anyway as 36 yr old backup. I hope that he’s doing well these day, but if he isn’t, you still can’t lay the majority of his concussion problems at the feet (hehe) of Cueto….but at playing catcher, innumerable foul tips that hit him in the head each had more force and likely did more damage than Cueto’s kick….plus, you know, assholes that “play the game the right way and run over the catcher”.

    • paperlions - Apr 14, 2013 at 10:38 AM

      I’m a Cardinal fan….and even I found these references played out over a year ago. Yes, he fucked up and wigged-out during a brawl. Let it go.

      • Old Gator - Apr 14, 2013 at 11:05 AM

        Problem is, it’s not a matter of which team you root for or against. It’s not even a matter of how many concussions La Rue suffered prior to what Cueto did to him while he was lying helplessly at the little swine’s feet. And it’s surely not a matter of what LaRue’s capabilities as a ballplayer were, good or bad – that people even bring up LaRue’s record is ridiculous and irrelevant. It’s a matter of Cueto’s cowardly brutality and the viciousness with which he assaulted another human being who was completely helpless at the time. They guy is an animal who, whether he “wigged out” (IE turned as yellow as a lemon) or not – which, again, would be no excuse in a court of law – and suffered no meaningful rebuke for his abominable behavior. As long as he desecrates the field he plays on, he stains the game with his presence.

      • paperlions - Apr 14, 2013 at 11:08 AM

        I agree with the concept that…just because it happens on the field doesn’t mean you are not subject to the law. I would have zero problem with Quentin getting arrested for assualting Greinke, zero problem with Hamels being charged with assault for hitting Harper on purpose. Just because you are on a field does not mean that actions outside of the rules of the game should not be subject to legal action.

      • paperlions - Apr 14, 2013 at 11:25 AM

        To clarify, the only reason I brought up LaRues age/ability an past concussion is because any judgement of Cueto’s action based on the outcome of the kick need to take into account that 1) it only ended his career because his career was about over anyway, and 2) effects of concussions are cumulative. That is not a defense of the action, only a recognition that the single act cannot be blamed for “ending LaRue’s career” nor for any post-career concussion symptoms he may experience.

      • saints97 - Apr 14, 2013 at 3:32 PM

        So if a guy has terminal cancer, and I murder him, I can’t fully be blamed for his death?

        Amazingly faulty logic for someone who is usually spot on.

      • paperlions - Apr 14, 2013 at 3:35 PM

        That isn’t the same at all, and you know it (or should). Using your poor example, no one could ever be blamed for murder because everyone is in the process of dying, some are just closer to it than others.

        A better analogy is blaming one pitch for tearing a UCL. It is the accumulation of stress on the ligament that leads to TJS, not a single pitch. Concussions are the same way.

      • saints97 - Apr 14, 2013 at 4:00 PM

        So the one concussion, the final one that ended his career, and was also an intentional and cowardly act, is not different than the others at all? They all contributed to his retirement, so Cueto is only as guilty as the foul balls? I think not.

  4. jm91rs - Apr 13, 2013 at 10:36 PM

    And here we go…

    • Old Gator - Apr 13, 2013 at 11:11 PM

      Where? To recollections of one of the most Neanderthal, most cowardly episodes of behavior by a so-called professional athlete in recent memory? Now why would anyone want to go there? I much prefer athletes who beat up their wives – not that the difference between that and what Cueto did was a matter of degree, but only of kind.

      • Old Gator - Apr 13, 2013 at 11:42 PM

        I love you homeboy lowlives who would like to sweep Cueto’s gutless brutality under the rug. Now let’s just say he happened to do the same thing to some innocent guy in a bar – you know, a pal of yours – and happened not to be the ace pitcher for the team you root for. How long would you want to put him away for? Eight games? Sure. Stinking hypocrites.

      • saints97 - Apr 13, 2013 at 11:57 PM

        Cowardice is the new manliness, Gator. It’s a new world.

      • Old Gator - Apr 14, 2013 at 12:07 AM

        That’s certainly true among Cueto’s adoring fans, isn’t it?

      • Old Gator - Apr 14, 2013 at 12:31 AM

        Incidentally, Saints, you notice how these clowns automatically assume anyone who thinks kicking in a helpless man’s head with cleats must be a Cardinals fan? Apparently they think that only St. Louis residents have a functional sense of decency. I guess they haven’t traveled much beyond the neighborhood where their trailer park is.

      • mrredlegz - Apr 14, 2013 at 9:49 AM

        The thing is, Gator, other than an occaisonal “he was pinned against the wall by 4 guys,” observation, rarely have I seen anyone actually ‘defending’ Cueto’s part in that brawl. In fact, many Reds’ fans are quick to point out that it was a bad decision made in the heat of the moment. Regrettable, indeed.

        But just from reading your predictable and worn out comments any time a post makes any reference to Cueto whatsoever – you’d think Reds’ fans celebrate this particular incident with pride…..”Remember when Cueto smashed that Cardinals’ sucky, back-up catcher’s skull in and ruined his career? That was AWESOME, man! It should happen so much more often!”

        We get it, man. You’ve made it your personal mission to protect and promote the lagacy of Jason LaRue. Obviously, it wasn’t the first 14 concussions that really hurt him, but that last one. You don’t like Johnny Cueto. You don’t think ANYONE should like Johnny Cueto. Point taken. Feel better, now?

      • Old Gator - Apr 14, 2013 at 10:13 AM

        Actually, there have been posts – whether by genuine Reds fans or by assorted knuckledraggers who insinuated themselves into the discussion because they thought they were being cute I couldn’t say for sure – making “funny” comments about LaRue’s injuries or valorizing in the most off-the-corner way Cueto’s kicking ability. I recall those posts with disgust and never bothered to answer them. It’s not LaRue I’m trying to rehabilitate; it was up to MLB to take action and discipline adequately this brutal criminal in their midst and, predictably, they failed miserably to do so – though you can repeat Ahab’s pledge to chase Moby Dick to hell and insert Ryan Braun’s name in place of the whale’s where the Bufogenesis fiasco is involved. As I pointed out above, the same kind of “unfortunate decision” off the baseball field would have put the little thug in a jail cell, and it still should. Sorry if my repulsion by that kind of hypocrisy offends you.

  5. thebadguyswon - Apr 14, 2013 at 12:47 AM

    Cueto is a piece of shit. Hopefully this leads to career-ending surgery.

  6. blacksables - Apr 14, 2013 at 5:18 AM

    In other news, none of the Cardinals tweeted their joy over Cueto’s injury, and no Cardinals fans here have posted about being happy about it.

    Guess that remains a Brandon Phillips staple.

    You can all make fun of the ‘best fans in baseball’ title if you want, but its no surprise the Reds fans are never mentioned in the discussion.

    Sustained excellence vs a mediocre playoff loss every few years.

    • saints97 - Apr 14, 2013 at 7:25 AM

      In fairness, it wasn’t Phillips who was seen singing the song of joy when he found out Wainwright needed TJ surgery. That was Gomes.

      • blacksables - Apr 14, 2013 at 9:09 AM

        Fair enough, my mistake. Wrong player, right scenario.

  7. toejoronto - Apr 14, 2013 at 8:27 AM

    Anyone that enjoys a player going down with an injury is a worthless pos. Its a game to you, but its someone else’s life. Any fan that cheered when larue’s career ended should probably stay away from the game and reevaluate priorities. Anyone that enjoys when one of the games better pitchers is out for awhile should do the same.

    You’re all as worthless as the “Neanderthal” you’re rooting against.

    • saints97 - Apr 14, 2013 at 9:01 AM

      Yeah, how’s the poor guy gonna eat when he only has one good arm to cash his million dollar paychecks, eh?

    • Old Gator - Apr 14, 2013 at 10:04 AM

      Search back through my posts on the subject – as far back as you want to go – and you won’t find one single instance of my “rooting against” Cueto. I didn’t celebrate when he got hurt late last season and I’m not celebrating now. Aside from the fact that I don’t want to put myself on Cueto’s level in any way, I don’t need to “root against” him or hope he gets hurt – karma has a way of working itself out in a totally impersonal manner.

      However, I was appalled by MLB’s laughable response to his repulsive, cowardly thuggery and am still appalled that there are those who root for him (and by that I mean for him, not the Reds per se). I think he should have been suspended for a much longer time, fined heavily beyond that, and wouldn’t have been disappointed if he had been banned from the game altogether – or even exiled to the NHL.

  8. watchfullhose - Apr 14, 2013 at 8:36 AM

    My sentiments exactly.

  9. skitd - Apr 14, 2013 at 8:59 PM

    That anyone defended Cueto’s actions with the lame homer excuse that he was pinned against the fence and he was terrified is really hilarious if you watched the replays. As soon as Larue was out of his range he spun ninety degrees and started kicking Carpenter in the back. If he was in such a blind panic wouldn’t he have been kicking everybody considering both teams were wearing red and white uniforms?

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