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UPDATE: With Boston in lockdown, Red Sox-Royals game postponed

Apr 19, 2013, 3:09 PM EDT

UPDATE: The game has been postponed. Good call. Surprised it took this long to make.  My friend Hunter Felt agrees:

But at least they got it right.

11:06 AM: Crazy stuff afoot in Boston, obviously. Follow NBC News, NECN.com or the news outlet of your choice to keep abreast of events.

In the meantime, there is a baseball angle to all of this, even if it’s a relatively unimportant angle: the Red Sox are supposed to play a home game against the Royals tonight. Obviously that’s pending the events in Boston, and if the city remains on lockdown like it is now, there’s no way the game can go off.

The latest news on this is that the team is waiting to get direction from city officials. And, obviously, city officials have more important things on their plate at the moment. We’ll update when anything along those lines.

In the meantime, if you’re in Boston, stay safe, folks.

  1. Old Gator - Apr 19, 2013 at 11:25 AM

    Hats off to the FBI and other intelligence services who did a tremendous job of sorting through the chaos and flushing these two murderers out so quickly. Now let’s just hope that no more innocent blood is shed running down the surviving brother before he can do anymore damage.

    • number42is1 - Apr 19, 2013 at 11:30 AM

      not to mention the social media that is now in place to help identify suspects quicker.

    • buggieowens - Apr 19, 2013 at 12:32 PM

      Totally agree. I also want to commend you for the very eloquent post you put up a couple of days ago about showing compassion for innocent people who have nothing to do with the bombing. It is worth reposting.

      • Old Gator - Apr 19, 2013 at 1:41 PM

        Thanks Bugs. I’ve been lucky to have close friends from a wide, wide range of ethnic and religious backgrounds, Muslim included – my college roomate is Iranian, for example – and seen a lot of them harassed over the years for reasons having nothing whatsoever to do with the kinds of people that they are. I had a Saudi exchange student in my American Lit course at the time of the WTC disaster and let him and another Saudi student who was a friend of his stay at our home for a week because some cracker knuckledraggers were pinning death threats to his dormitory door. And I heard plenty of horror stories from the “old country” from my grandparents, great aunts and uncles and older cousins that made an impression on me too. It’s really a no-brainer. Then again, there are a lot of so-called people out there with no brains to speak of.

        Another thought: these guys are ethnic Chechens, and grew up as very secularized kids here. Islam in the northern Caucasus – if they are Muslims at all; I haven’t heard yet – is a very different thing from Middle Eastern Islam. Russia and communism were the main enemies there, not “western imperialism” or even secularism per se. It’s a blood hatred much older than the Chechnya secession in the early 90s. It predates Yeltsin and Putin’s brutal suppression of the Chechnya independence movement and the horrifying destruction of Grozny by centuries. Rather than using radical theology as a point of departure, as Levantine Islamists would, Islamism is a kind of adapted ideological glue that makes a twisted kind of sense out of, and unifies, what is essentially a political and ethnocentric hostility between Chechens and Russians.

        How that translated into the Boston atrocity, and how these kids were so brutally turned, has yet to be told. I have to confess, I’m fascinated by all of this and very anxious about finding some answers.

      • buggieowens - Apr 19, 2013 at 1:59 PM

        Thanks for the history lesson. My own expertise is in the history of US drug policy and, in particular, the long, secret Afghanistan-U.S. drug connection. I am less informed about the differences within the Islamic community (other than just general overviews of Sunni, Shite, Wahabi). So I appreciate the knowledge.

      • randygnyc - Apr 19, 2013 at 4:13 PM

        Yes Gator, it has been confirmed that they are radicalized Islamists. They refer to themselves as Muslims on social media, but it has now been reported that their you tube channels holds the key. The older brother had 22 videos posted supporting death to infidels and Jews. Some of these videos were graphically violent. Some were posted in English, some in Russian and others in Arabic. Some content praised an Islamic caliphate, bin laden and al Qaeda. The younger brother hadn4 such videos. There is no mystery here about motive. The nay mystery that remains is who and when were they radicalized.

      • Old Gator - Apr 19, 2013 at 5:28 PM

        If I had to guess based on what I’ve read – and there’s an article on Fox News wherein some law enforcement official notes that there’s a lot of misinformation flying around right now – it sounds like the older brother was coming apart at the seams emotionally, went to Russia for a few months last year after being arrested for domestic violence against his Christian wife or girlfriend in Boston (even that hasn’t been clarified yet) and then came back and went back to work. Some acquaintance was also quoted as saying that the older brother was a big influence on his younger brother. Given all this, the most trenchant analysis of these two came from their uncle in Maryland who, when asked why they did this, replied, “because they’re losers.”

      • koufaxmitzvah - Apr 19, 2013 at 9:52 PM

        Crazy doesn’t know many boundaries. Religion, nationality, race, sex, age. How is watching an Islamist beheading video any different than daring to watch Faces of Death? Is an Islamist video any different than a drug cartel video?

        Extremism is dangerous.We all need to follow the natural law of how every person on this planet has a right to the same self-determination as anyone else does.

  2. sportsdrenched - Apr 19, 2013 at 11:36 AM

    Couple years ago, well I guess it’s closer to 10 years now, the Red Sox were in Kansas City. My younger self liked to heckle opposing fans and baseball players. Nothing profain, I was more like that old man Craig saw in spring training. Anyway this Boston Firefighter and I were jawing back and fourth the entire game. At the end of the game he came up to me smiled and shook my hand, which is how knew he was a Boston Firefighter. I hope that guys OK right now. Cause really baseball is a distraction.

    There are a million logistical and hard reasons not to play this game even they catch this dude right now. Nevermind the emotional reasons. Purely from a selfish stand point. As a Royals fan, when that game is played I’m gonna have to root against Boston and I really don’t want to do that right now.

    • sdelmonte - Apr 19, 2013 at 11:51 AM

      I’m a Knicks fan. Tomorrow (hopefully) my team will square off against the Celtics, who will have everyone outside of NYC rooting for them. And rightfully so, given the place that the Celts have in the fabric of Boston. It’s gonna be a weird series. Though not one tenth as weird as this week has been.

      If I wrote today as a screenplay, it would be rejected as too improbable.

      • Old Gator - Apr 19, 2013 at 11:58 AM

        And we don’t really know a fraction of the story yet. These guys came here over ten years ago, when they were 8 and 15 years old, and grew up here. Whatever went wrong with them happened here; they weren’t foreign agents or plants. They didn’t dream this up alone, and there’s much more to learn. And clearly, they didn’t expect to be outed so quickly, panicked and tried to run. As gratifying as many would find it to see this second one shot dead as well, it’s important he be taken alive if at all possible. There are a lot of things we still need to know.

        Someone’s still going to write that screenplay – and I bet you it’ll be sooner rather than later.

  3. barrywhererufrom - Apr 19, 2013 at 11:42 AM

    Thank God this is nearing to end..what a sad sad situation. I pray for the people of Boston..

  4. cur68 - Apr 19, 2013 at 11:45 AM

    Good luck, Boston. This sucks.

    • 18thstreet - Apr 19, 2013 at 11:52 AM

      And yet, we see bravery in every corner.

      • cur68 - Apr 19, 2013 at 11:54 AM

        You keep you head down, brother. Good luck out there.

      • 18thstreet - Apr 19, 2013 at 11:59 AM

        Me? I live in Maryland and work in Washington. I appreciate the concern, but I’m as safe as ever.

      • cur68 - Apr 19, 2013 at 12:01 PM

        I dunno, man. I always think once we cross from the Canadian Border that the best thing to do is assume everyone’s armed and looking for an excuse to unlimber some sort of hockey stick shaped thing and have a go at shooting your balls off. I’d still stay in the basement. Its just safer there.

  5. aceshigh11 - Apr 19, 2013 at 12:58 PM

    What a surreal, horrific week.

    I hope this madness ends soon.

  6. cardsfanandi - Apr 19, 2013 at 2:31 PM

    There are reports of a bomb safely detonated in the Charlesgate area by Berklee College of Music (I went to Berklee, so I know the surrounding area very well). Fenway is just a couple blocks away down Boylston. I sincerely hope they cancel that game tonight. I just don’t think it’s safe for people to be out for any reason in that city right now. I know baseball for a lot of us is a break from the stressors of life, but I don’t think it’s worth it to be in danger for that break.

    I hope this is over soon. It’s killing me to know people still living in that area and walking those streets. Stay Boston Strong.

  7. rick2248 - Apr 19, 2013 at 2:46 PM

    God Bless you Boston . Stay strong.

  8. 13arod - Apr 19, 2013 at 2:51 PM

    Old Gator the thing that went wrong with them was there parents when they brought them to united states when they were in turkey and they came over here because there parents wanted to kill americans

    • cur68 - Apr 19, 2013 at 3:20 PM

      13arod: thanks for the . . . insight? Sure. Insight. Question: What went wrong with you? I’m going to say that whatever it was, it involved a blindness to punctuation, spelling and coherence. Get well soon.

    • Old Gator - Apr 19, 2013 at 3:24 PM

      Really? And you spoke to their parents about this?

      And when were they in Turkey? They were born in Cechnya and Kyrghiztan, moved to Russia and then to the US. Their father lives in Russia and has no issues with America, and he’s in shock and can’t believe they were involved in this. Their paternal uncle lives in Maryland, loves his adopted county, is disgusted and ashamed by what they’ve done and has pleaded that the younger brother surrender and said point blank that the older brother got exactly what he deserved.

      You apparently don’t know the difference between Chechnya, Kyrhiztan, Kazakhstan and Turkey. You probably don’t know the difference between Russia and Grand Fenwick. Get your facts straight and discharge your witless, ignorant speculation into the commode.

      • Old Gator - Apr 19, 2013 at 3:26 PM

        cur: it’s probably just the long term effects of the steroids.

      • cur68 - Apr 19, 2013 at 3:34 PM

        I thought that stuff shrank one’s nuts. Didn’t know it shrunk the prefrontal cortex.

      • APBA Guy - Apr 19, 2013 at 5:46 PM

        13arod is probably your pal Barry’s second handle.

      • nbjays - Apr 19, 2013 at 6:55 PM

        If I had to guess, I’d say his nuts and his prefrontal cortex were located in the same place anyway…

  9. cur68 - Apr 19, 2013 at 3:17 PM

    Game postponed. Good. Take it easy over there.

  10. sportsdrenched - Apr 19, 2013 at 3:20 PM

    I think all those LEO’s hanging on to that HumVe should throw out the 1st Pitch when they do play….I guess the driver should come along too.

  11. crispybasil - Apr 19, 2013 at 3:23 PM

    I believe the Red Sox were waiting for official word from city officials before making any kind of announcements. It was a foregone conclusion, IMO.

    I had tickets, too. Was looking forward to the distraction but obviously understand and agree with the decision. I’m in lockdown…

  12. barrywhererufrom - Apr 19, 2013 at 4:06 PM

    The older brother traveled back and forth to Chechyna. I am sure that is where he received his training..they are radical Muslims I am hoping that they bring the younger brother in so we can hear from his despicable mouth why they did what they did. Maybe then people will wake up to why so many of these attacks are done by radical Muslims. You would think after 9-11 that this lesson would be learned but it has not..

    • fanofevilempire - Apr 19, 2013 at 4:37 PM

      what do you ” people” to do?

      • fanofevilempire - Apr 19, 2013 at 4:39 PM

        what do you want “people” to do?

    • drewsylvania - Apr 19, 2013 at 4:45 PM

      I was hoping that the lesson of not jumping to conclusions would have been learned as well.

      • barrywhererufrom - Apr 19, 2013 at 4:54 PM

        what jumping to conclusions do you mean? that radical muslms’ attacked the people in Boston? It happened..and it sucks..

      • drewsylvania - Apr 19, 2013 at 4:55 PM

        We know they’re radical Muslims yet?

      • koufaxmitzvah - Apr 19, 2013 at 9:57 PM

        What’s funny is that I’m now expected the words of an anonymous poster who has a hard time accepting my President was actually born in America.

        So, yeah. There are a lot of crazy people on this planet. Some shoot kindergartners, some run toxic fertilizer plants, some insist that 90% of the people are flat out wrong, and some blow up marathons.

        And some insist they know everything that there is to know about Muslims, extremists, terrorism, and birth certificates.

    • Old Gator - Apr 19, 2013 at 6:02 PM

      We know that the older brother went to Russia once, early last year, for several months. Aside from Poor Dim Barry’s insistence that he was a regular commuter to Chechnya, I haven’t seen anything to that effect in the respectable media – including, I should add, Faux News.

      • barrywhererufrom - Apr 19, 2013 at 7:02 PM

        In all.seriousness.where does one receive training like this? Where did they get the grenades? If you think they werrnt helped out then that is.pretty naive on your part. Actually former DA Andrew.McArthary made this point today. You.really have to.get your head put.of your liberal arse

      • barrywhererufrom - Apr 19, 2013 at 7:06 PM

        Finally where does one get a suicide vest? The technology that was used was the same that was found on the would be terrorist in nyc(times square)

      • koufaxmitzvah - Apr 19, 2013 at 10:00 PM

        “In all.seriousness.where does one receive training like this?”

        The internet is chock full of bomb making guides.

        Man, you’re dense.

      • Old Gator - Apr 20, 2013 at 1:04 AM

        All of this stuff is all over the internet. There have been numerous articles in all the print media about this, and how dangerous it is. Where did Timothy McVeigh learn to build a truck bomb – in Chechnya? Tora Bora? Waziristan? And the Unabomber visited Baghdad how many times? And the Fraunces Tavern bombers – when did they return from Yemen? The LaGuardia Airport bombers – how much time did they spend in Kurdistan? Poor Dim Barry. If ignorance were gold, you could buy yourself a Lamborghini and still have enough left over for white truffles over squid ink pasta.

    • carbydrash - Apr 19, 2013 at 8:34 PM

      Maybe then people will wake up to why so many of these attacks are done by radical Muslims.

      Is this actually a mystery to *anybody at all*. IE, destitute and unstable places create power vacuums that allow for radical religious groups to take hold that can suck people in.

      You didn’t just crack the case here dude, this isn’t a mystery.

      • barrywhererufrom - Apr 19, 2013 at 9:37 PM

        OActually if you hàda clue you would remeber the 911the hijackerz wjere wwalthly and highly

        ?educated

      • Old Gator - Apr 20, 2013 at 1:10 AM

        You never met a comment you could meet head-on, did you? You’re so dense that you completely missed the point of Carby’s observation. But I’ll reiterate it: you keep on gibbering as if you think you’re actually telling anyone something they don’t already know. And you can’t seem to connect with their gentle reminders that you’re dishing out old news, old stories and old mistakes as if you just thought of them yourself. Poor Dim Barry. Every one of your histrionic posts is like a head-on collision between two circus Volkswagens full of clowns. You’re giving right-wingnuts everywhere a bad name.

      • carbydrash - Apr 20, 2013 at 8:48 AM

        Uh-huh. And Barry, where were the 9/11 hijackers *from*, which is what I said?

        It is fascinating that you repeatedly will argue something completely different from what the other person is saying. Here is my impression:

        ME: Pie is delicious!
        BARRY: Oh yeah, if pie is so delicious, then why is the price of gas so high
        ME: [Sighs. Realizes it's his own fault for arguing with someone in the comments section]

  13. barrywhererufrom - Apr 19, 2013 at 4:47 PM

    what? read the deceased brothers facebook page..watch his videos on youtube..check out where he traveled..if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck its a duck. Maybe Chris Matthews got into so many peoples head and you want to blame the Tea Party like he did. But the truth is what it is and it has to hurt so many liberals out there. We keep on making the same mistakes. I don’t think the majority of people on here get it..

    • drewsylvania - Apr 19, 2013 at 4:59 PM

      In that case, what is the lesson to be learned? The action to be taken?

      • Old Gator - Apr 19, 2013 at 5:38 PM

        Pretty much what’s been done so far – keep good surveillance on these people, keep following up on them, and resist the temptation, so irresistable to peabrains and dimwits like Poor Dim Barry here, to construct straw men and condemn entire groups of people for the actions of a few disaffected lunatics. Poor Dim Barry’s pathetic and bigoted insistence that “liberals” coddle radicals when, of course, what they do – and what even decent conservatives do – is distinguish between the dangerous lunatics and the vast majority of decent Muslims. It would be just as wrong to blame all conservatives for dribbling, hateful, intellectually impotent loons like Poor Dim Barry as it would be to tar all Muslims for the behavior of murderous psychopaths like the Tsaernev brothers.

        Incidentally, the leader of the most virulent al-Queda linked Chechen jihadist group recently posted a message on their web site mocking the Tsaernev brothers as bunglers and amateurs, denying any contact with them – very uncharacteristic when a “successful” attack has been carried out – and claiming that they were “set up,” though by whom he didn’t say.

        We still have a lot to learn about these two, and how they got the way they are. People are complex creatures. Poor Dim Barry isn’t.

      • chill1184 - Apr 19, 2013 at 5:44 PM

        Ron Paul has been pointing out why they attack us. Hint: Its not the neocon bs line “They hate us for our freedoms”

    • carbydrash - Apr 19, 2013 at 8:35 PM

      So…yeah. White people have committed far more massacres in the US since 9/11 that Muslims.

      But, you know, keep being paranoid. It suits you.

      • barrywhererufrom - Apr 19, 2013 at 8:53 PM

        You keeping score? I don’t know about you but those radical Muslims have this whole terrorism thing down. Do Me a favor let me know when you have one of those radical Christians that murder in the name of Jesus..and please don’t speak of Brevik or the crusades or Timothy mcveigh..one was a psycho who killed because of it..the second occurred 700 years ago and the McVeigh was a separatist who attacked because of Waco..let’s see those names..and no you can’t use oj

      • Old Gator - Apr 20, 2013 at 12:58 AM

        You love moving the goal posts, right? Don’t use Brevik because he was nuts but use any Muslim crackpot because they believe in Allah? You get dumber and dumber with every repetitive, rhetorically constipated comment. Go on now, go stand guard over America. She needs you.

  14. drewsylvania - Apr 19, 2013 at 4:54 PM

    The Bruins and Red Sox waited because….well, we really want to thumb our nose at this murderous fuckwad.

  15. randygnyc - Apr 19, 2013 at 5:00 PM

    Drew- msnbc is reporting that they are both radicalized Muslims, citing the you tube channels and travel.

  16. randygnyc - Apr 19, 2013 at 5:35 PM

    Gator-pretty accurate. The younger brother was following the older one. The uncle was also right in saying they deserve to die for this.

    • Old Gator - Apr 19, 2013 at 5:57 PM

      They both do, but it’s important that he be taken alive. At 19 and now alone, I bet he’d come apart quickly under interrogation and we still need to know a lot of things.

      Now the big question is where the younger one went. Is he holed up in some home holding a family silently hostage? Did they have a safe house – and if so, whose other than theirs? Is he running through the woods somehwere? Or is he just a scared kid without his big brother now, cringing behind some trashcans and waiting for dark?

      • barrywhererufrom - Apr 19, 2013 at 7:19 PM

        Old gator is this a work place violence like the muslim who shot up fort hood? Thats the term obana used.for.it. Again the libtards like chris matthews blamed the tea party for the attack.i am.sure you agreed with him. The idea that horrible acts were done by radical muslims.must really piss liberals off.This is just the worst case scenario for the united states. We have a populace.and leaders who.refuse because of political correctness to point out that radical muslims are at war with us. You may want to ignore it but sadly it rears its.ugly head. You.were hoping it was a right winger but once again the adage that all muslims are not terrorists but most terrorists.are muslim..

      • 1943mrmojorisin1971 - Apr 20, 2013 at 12:43 AM

        How.hard.is.it.to.not.hit.the.period.key.in.the.middle.of.a.sentence?

  17. barrywhererufrom - Apr 19, 2013 at 7:09 PM

    Looks like number two bit the dust..f him

    • aceshigh11 - Apr 19, 2013 at 7:41 PM

      Typical right-winger…nothing but bile and rage and combativeness.

      No one flat-out accused the terrorists of being right-wing…it’s called speculation, and both sides did far too much of it.

      Of course, you have nothing to say about the NY Post baselessly smearing a high school student and destroying his life.

      But of course, he’s a raghead, so screw him, right?

      “barrywhererufrom”…what a paranoid clown you are. Your credibility is already shot with a handle like that, you birther idiot.

      • barrywhererufrom - Apr 19, 2013 at 8:03 PM

        Asses high..are you kidding? Speculation? Remember obama dont rush to judgement stuff? Well.msnbc doesn’t. Its.only speculation when you are accusing yhe right wong
        .when you say a radical muslim.did it it racism..i get it. That is the mind of a libtard

      • barrywhererufrom - Apr 19, 2013 at 8:12 PM

        For the last time i believe obama was born in florida..when in doubt and you have no.point to be made the call me a birther because you see my name..you know nothing about me you fool..what the hell are you talking about with the raghead bs? If that killer was dying in the street i will spit in his face and say f him…if you wouldnt do the same i would question whether you cared about the victims in boston

      • Old Gator - Apr 20, 2013 at 1:13 AM

        Hilarious. Poor Dim Barry doesn’t know the difference between Florida and Hawaii. Okay, it’s an easy enough mistake – both places have palm trees and active volcanoes, right? But for future reference, o clown prince, Florida is the one that’s attached to North America by Georgia and Alabama.

  18. barrywhererufrom - Apr 19, 2013 at 7:34 PM

    How about this for you old arse..an unnamed country warned the us two years ago that the older brother was radicalized..the fbi checked it out..now do you still believe these aholes werent radical muslims?

    • Old Gator - Apr 20, 2013 at 1:15 AM

      When did he say they weren’t? All he said was, let’s not jump to conclusions. And speaking of radicals, Poor Dim Barry, if there was an Assholes Liberation Front, you’d be the head of its provisional wing.

  19. jwbiii - Apr 19, 2013 at 9:08 PM
  20. kcrobert10 - Apr 19, 2013 at 9:19 PM

    Now that the idiot is in custody lets go on with our lives. Dont care what ur political leanings are this act was wrong on all levels. Anyway the royals don’t come back to Boston again this yr I expect a double hitter Saturday or Sunday lets televise it and show the terrorist we won’t be scared into giving up our freedoms and luxuries.

    • kcrobert10 - Apr 19, 2013 at 9:34 PM

      They should also make the double hitter a money raising event to help support the victims with medical care and funeral expenses for the fallen heroes of this tragedy.

  21. randygnyc - Apr 19, 2013 at 11:41 PM

    The medical bills for the victims are going to be really expensive. Amputations and subsequent recoveries are time consuming and labor intensive. I second the fund raising focus now.

    • jwbiii - Apr 19, 2013 at 11:44 PM

      Damn liberals. Always suggesting that other people should spend their money.

      • Old Gator - Apr 20, 2013 at 1:47 AM

        Re kcrobert and Randyg’s comments, I heard on my car radio this evening there are some web sites being set up for donations to support the victims and their families. I guess all I can say is that if you want to help, search out those sites – they shouldn’t be too difficult to find over the next week or so – just making sure that the ones you find are authentic, and donate through them. There are surely going to be a few scams.

  22. Old Gator - Apr 20, 2013 at 1:18 AM

    It’s excellent that they took this lunatic in one piece. With big brother gone, he was just a scared, wounded kid hiding under a tarp in someone’s back yard. Let’s hope he doesn’t bleed to death before the High Value squad gets a chance to interrogate him. I bet he cracks like an egg.

  23. bbil2012 - Apr 20, 2013 at 7:52 AM

    Hang on people. You’re off point here. This post is about Craig and Hunter feel the Red Sox waited too long to postpone the game.

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