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Apr 22, 2013, 2:00 PM EDT

Snow Baseball

It’s almost May, but apparently someone forgot to tell that to Minneapolis and Denver.

Tonight’s game between the Twins and Marlins has been postponed due to a Minnesota snowstorm. They’re going to try to do a doubleheader tomorrow, but there’s more cold and snow in the forecast.

At the moment there is supposed to be a Braves-Rockies game tonight, but it’s 36 degrees in Denver at the moment with snow in the forecast.

It’s just the weather and not much can be done about it, but the existence of unbalanced schedules and constant interleague play make scheduling makeup games really tough.

  1. riterboy - Apr 22, 2013 at 2:07 PM

    Maybe whichever team wins the All-Star Game can also determine who wins all of the games that can’t be made up due to kooky scheduling. Thanks, Bud!

    • pack93z - Apr 22, 2013 at 2:14 PM

      I am all for blaming almost everything on Bud.. but really how are the schedules really controllable considering we here in the Midwest are 20 to 30 degrees below average for the month?

      Minnesota not building a dome.. that I can blame upon them.. but even then the city had to look at the costs of 3 stadiums within a decade being built. Love the roof in Milwaukee..

      • okobojicat - Apr 22, 2013 at 5:20 PM

        Last year, the twins had how many games rained/snowed out? And the year before? A couple freak storms ruining a couples games is a really really poor reason to spend an extra $100 million and moreover, put that $100 million on the taxpayers.

  2. beefytrout - Apr 22, 2013 at 2:09 PM

    explain to me again why Target Field is open-air?

    • sportsdrenched - Apr 22, 2013 at 2:26 PM

      Let’s see, a few snowouts in an unusual weather year….or Millions of dollars.

      Sometimes you just have to deal with what you didn’t pay for.

    • sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Apr 22, 2013 at 2:27 PM

      From the responses I have received when asking that question, I have come to understand that Minnesota and New York have exactly the same weather every day and that anyone who disagrees should be quiet.

    • kopy - Apr 22, 2013 at 2:38 PM

      Might as well ask why is a tree good? Why is the sunset good? Why are boobs good?

    • Cris E - Apr 22, 2013 at 2:42 PM

      >> explain to me again why Target Field is open-air?

      Because it keeps snow from falling in Denver, and Chicago will be warmer and the Indians won’t be rained out. Retrospective roofs that don’t have to be paid for are the awesome.

      Or because this is a freakish spring in much of the United States, and a roof would have cost another quarter billion dollars and ruined the park for the 150-odd days a year it wasn’t snowing. As phrased in a Twins chat room many times in the past, a roof trades year-round mediocrity for a few dry or warm days. Buy coffee or stay home. Face it, it’s a bad year for weather and that’s going to happen.

      • beefytrout - Apr 22, 2013 at 2:48 PM

        If only we had the technology to make a roof that a stadium could keep open during some weather, and closed the rest of the time.

      • Francisco (FC) - Apr 22, 2013 at 4:51 PM

        Actually it would also be useful for preventing rain-outs. To each his own.

    • e5again - Apr 22, 2013 at 2:46 PM

      Do a google image search for target field.
      Look at the first picture.
      Do a google image search for miller park.
      Look at the first picture.

    • ryanrockzzz - Apr 23, 2013 at 2:24 PM

      Because that makes it better, pretty simple. It’s only April, so who really cares if they have to make up a few.

  3. cocheese000 - Apr 22, 2013 at 2:12 PM

    Can any of you old timers remember a year that had worse weather in April than this year?

    • pack93z - Apr 22, 2013 at 2:18 PM

      Not this consistently.. here in Wisconsin I can remember spurts of cold and snow.. but not consistently day after day.

    • nfieldr - Apr 22, 2013 at 3:04 PM

      Watch it Sonny…. And get off my grass!!

  4. realgone2 - Apr 22, 2013 at 2:15 PM

    I was just saying the same thing. Why in the world are Minnesota and Denver open air stadiums?!

    • paperlions - Apr 22, 2013 at 2:19 PM

      Well, because most years it doesn’t matter….and because an open air stadium is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than a dome or retractable roof (which feels like a dome with a hole in it.

  5. xpensivewinos - Apr 22, 2013 at 2:16 PM

    If only we had the technology to build a retractable roof……..

    • kopy - Apr 22, 2013 at 3:00 PM

      …without ruining the outdoor atmosphere by having a massive wraparound wall enclosing the sides of the stadium.

      • mondogarage - Apr 22, 2013 at 5:18 PM

        This. The views out west from Coors Field are pretty much the greatest in MLB, especially during evening games.

        As I mentioned last week, Denver has lost less than a dozen games to snow since the franchise started. And probably no more than that to rain.

        Now, if the YankeeSawxMet typical east coast whiners wanna share with us how many games you’ve lost to rain in the last 20 years, that would be a fair place to start the discussion. Because we know it never ever ever ever rains in those cites during baseball season. People can demand a retractable roof over Coors when you put them on Fenway and Yankee Stadium, and not before.

  6. Alan Luken - Apr 22, 2013 at 2:21 PM

    Never understood why Minnesota didn’t put a roof on their new stadium

    • Ben - Apr 22, 2013 at 2:32 PM

      About 300 million dollars.

      • Alan Luken - Apr 22, 2013 at 2:40 PM

        Was it going to be a gold plated roof? Retractable roofs cost less that $100 million.

      • Ben - Apr 22, 2013 at 2:43 PM

        Probably. That’s how we Minnesotans roll.
        If I remember right, it is about 100 million but that there was a snowball effect, because they returned to the idea later when they’d have to make a bunch of other costly changes. Compounding the cost. I could be misremembering though. I didn’t live in MN at the time.

  7. sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Apr 22, 2013 at 2:30 PM

    Too bad there is no way to move a start time up. So often a night game has crappy weather following a perfectly pleasant (or at least relatively endurable) afternoon. I know the logistics would be a nightmare, but perhaps put some clause that allows a team to move start time up by a few hours if they can provide X number of hours notice to the fans?

    • Bryz - Apr 22, 2013 at 5:11 PM

      You have to realize that the concession workers and ushers would need to be notified as well, right?

      Moving a game a couple hours earlier on the same day it’s to be played is too much of a logistics nightmare to actually happen.

      • sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Apr 23, 2013 at 2:36 PM

        Obviously this would need 24 hours notice, or maybe more if possible. But there are times when that would be a huge help. They can mobilize the forces in 12 hours or so to play a double-header on the day following a rainout. Couldn’t they do the same to head off a rainout in those cases where they know they will have an earlier window of opportunity? I am sure they can’t, because they haven’t, but it seems like a possibility at least worth exploring.

  8. Shafer's Dealer - Apr 22, 2013 at 2:33 PM

    Barry Zito has contacts.. have him place a call…

  9. 13arod - Apr 22, 2013 at 2:43 PM

    i like coors field but they need to build a dome stadium

  10. dowhatifeellike - Apr 22, 2013 at 2:44 PM

    It has been snowing hard in Denver for at least an hour. I know spring snowstorms happen but this is our third this month.

    • dowhatifeellike - Apr 22, 2013 at 2:45 PM

      Oh, now that I live out here I forgot to add the obligatory “but we need the moisture”.

      • mondogarage - Apr 22, 2013 at 5:30 PM

        This month is also on pace to be the 5th most snowy April in Denver recorded history. This is anything other than a normal April in Denver, snow-wise. And yet, if tonight’s postponed, that would make only the third postponement of the month (of which one has already been made up). And there are no weather issues preventing making up tonight’s game on Wednesday.

        So all this ado about having to make up ONE single solitary game later in the season.

        Meh.

  11. stabonerichard - Apr 22, 2013 at 2:46 PM

    The retractable roof is only a slight improvement over a closed roof/dome. Those stadiums have high walls on all sides, no sight lines of the city, etc. Chase Field is understandable cuz it’s brutally hot in Phoenix during the summer. But still, Miller Park and Chase Field and stadiums like that don’t come close to matching the open-air vibe of a Coors Field or Target Field. It’s just not the same experience when attending games in person.

    And to make matters worse, for these stadiums with a retractable roof it seems that unless the outdoor conditions are pristine they keep the sucker closed.

    So yeah, the weather sucks at times and will cause games to be postponed, but I think it’s a tradeoff worth making in almost every city. But I’m curious, are there fans out there who prefer retractable roof and actually attend games regularly in one of those stadiums? If so, attend a game in SF or Pittsburgh or Minneapolis and KC and I think you’ll be amazed at the difference.

  12. personalspaceinvader - Apr 22, 2013 at 2:48 PM

    Coors Field is a great ballpark and I would hate to have a dome. The schedule makers usually do a good job of avoiding the Colorado snow, and they don’t actually miss as many games as many might think. This has been a frustrating winter, though.

    Sadly though, we might have to be patient on a series that features the two teams with the best records in baseball. :(

    • nineroutsider - Apr 22, 2013 at 3:30 PM

      3 of the 5 Rookies’ losses came at the hands of the Giants via a sweep. I can’t believe how well the Rookies are playing though even though its still early.

      • mondogarage - Apr 22, 2013 at 5:33 PM

        It’s been creditable to three things – 1) league average defense (which is much improved over 2012), 2) a healthy lineup, and 3) surprisingly solid starting pitching. Last year, the bullpen got destroyed by starters who couldn’t go 4-5 innings, much less 6.

        Say what you want about real validity of the “Quality Start”, but the fact remains that the Rockies are something like 3rd or 4th in all of MLB in Quality Starts thus far.

        That said, Chacin going on the DL is gonna hurt.

        Of the five losses, three (including one against the Giants) have resulted from blown leads, two by Wilton Lopez.

  13. nineroutsider - Apr 22, 2013 at 3:23 PM

    Meanwhile, its a little too hot for April in San Jose…91 is the expected high today (that’s what it was yesterday). Still, I’m very happy that I no longer live in Sioux City, IA.

    • okobojicat - Apr 22, 2013 at 7:15 PM

      Northwest Iowa natives unite! Okoboji here. I escaped Tacoma.

  14. lifer124 - Apr 22, 2013 at 3:24 PM

    I know none of these people on here complaining that Target Field is open air are from Minnesota. All i ever heard from twins fans my whole life is how much they hated watching games in the dome. I’m from milwaukee and worked at both miller park and old county stadium. MP is great and has saved us a few cold games and cancellations but nothing beats the atmosphere of an open stadium.

    • albertmn - Apr 22, 2013 at 3:51 PM

      lifer124 has it right. The Metrodome was a comparative mausoleum for baseball. Not conducive to fun baseball watching.

  15. psunick - Apr 22, 2013 at 3:24 PM

    “snowball effect”, Ben?

  16. albertmn - Apr 22, 2013 at 3:41 PM

    Of those that keep b!tching about a dome in Minnesota or Colorado, how many of you live in either place? None? That’s what I thought. Shush your mouths and worry about your own towns and teams. This has been an outlier of a year for weather. Only a couple of the cancellations for the Twins were actually in Minnesota. Friday there were games postponed in Chicago and Baltimore. I didn’t hear anybody griping about those places not having domes. If you are going to complain about MN, you better complain about every non-dome that has a cancellation for snow, rain, or cold. If you don’t complain about all of them, don’t complain about any of them.

    By the way, we had a dome in MN. It was not a good place to watch baseball. Sure, it avoided rainouts and cold weather, but it was constantly ridiculed and hated by players and fans of other teams. Now, the taxpayers build a lovely stadium and people still complain. If a couple of postponed games in an unusual weather year cause you that much consternation, maybe baseball isn’t the sport for you. Relax and enjoy that many teams will have a couple of double headers later in the season to really pack in baseball action.

  17. Kevin S. - Apr 22, 2013 at 3:45 PM

    Is it that hard to schedule divisional opponents or teams scheduled with return trips in northern, open-air stadiums in April?

  18. randygnyc - Apr 22, 2013 at 3:56 PM

    After 34 responses I’ll address the elephant in the room- GLOBAL WARMING. Lmao @ the liberal lemmings.

    • dowhatifeellike - Apr 22, 2013 at 4:20 PM

      Your ignorance is showing.

    • koufaxmitzvah - Apr 22, 2013 at 4:27 PM

      The real phrase is Global Climate Change. It’s the Right Whiners and Not-so Breitbrats (aka Nutsos) who gave us Global Warming.

      Anyway, I wouldn’t want to explode that precious little head of yours with stuff like science and facts. I bet you think BP has done a great job clearning up the Gulf because of those ads they’re forced to run.

      By the way…. Who owns the largest chunk of British Petroleum? The Royal Family. Yup, it’s 2013 and the monarchy still controls us.

      Toodles.

  19. buckybadger - Apr 22, 2013 at 4:21 PM

    Denver does not need a dome and anyone who thinks so doesn’t spend much time here. We get 300+ days of sun and I would be willing to bet not even in the top 10 in weather delays of the 20 or so open air stadiums in baseball. A little streak of bad weather early in the year doesn’t mean you have to get a dome. I have been to the last 9 opening days here in Denver and have never not been in shorts and a t-shirt getting sun burned.

    • beefytrout - Apr 22, 2013 at 5:25 PM

      Opening Days don’t count – the weather is always good for Opening Days (nature knows what’s up).

  20. kardshark1 - Apr 22, 2013 at 5:53 PM

    We here in Los Angeles feel your pain, people from Denver and Minnesota. It was so sunny yesterday that I actually had to lift my right arm to adjust my sun visor in my car. It was brutal.

  21. crnvic847 - Apr 22, 2013 at 7:12 PM

    Can someone explain to me why teams like the White Sox have 16 home games in April? SMH

  22. simon94022 - Apr 22, 2013 at 7:21 PM

    What do “unbalanced schedules” have to do with this problem? Does anyone want a schedule where the Marlins make TWO trips to Minnesota in the same season?

  23. rgledz - Apr 23, 2013 at 12:16 AM

    Here’s a solution……schedule the games at Miami in April and in Minnesota in July instead of the other damn way around! Problem solved.

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