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Gregg Zaun on Blue Jays fans: “They’re getting drunker, and drunker and drunker”

Apr 23, 2013, 10:30 AM EDT

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Former Jay and current Jays analyst Gregg Zaun is quoted in the Toronto Star about the increasingly boorish behavior of Jays fans at Rogers Centre:

Gregg Zaun has also chimed in, suggesting some Jays’ fans are engaging in boorish, obnoxious behaviour that he finds appalling … “It’s very, very prevalent at the Rogers Centre, especially in the later innings when the Jays are losing that people lose their minds … They’re getting drunker, and drunker and drunker and it’s because fans are getting younger and younger,” Zaun said. He added he is most concerned about fans throwing objects onto the field, but he doesn’t even think “profanity should be tolerated at all.”

In the absence of arrest and ejection records this stuff lies in the anecdotal. But as Phillies fans can tell you, even a handful of isolated incidents can cement the reputation of a fan base in a lot of people’s minds.

  1. sabatimus - Apr 23, 2013 at 10:40 AM

    Forget about this. Let’s talk about that annoying cow in the front row in Fenway Park last night who kept yelling “Woooooooooooooooooooo” over and over and OVER next to the mics. It was so bad people were tweeting about it. She left eventually, and hopefully that was in the hands of park security.

    • paperlions - Apr 23, 2013 at 12:20 PM

      I know Ric Flair is pretty, but that is still no reason to refer to him as a woman (or a cow).


    • jm91rs - Apr 23, 2013 at 1:46 PM

      I bet she was from Cincinnati. They started some seriously annoying wooooooo-ing last year and it just won’t stop. If the park is fairly empty (common for weeknight games here, at least until the weather warms up), by the 7th or 8th inning all you hear is drunk people wooing.

  2. randygnyc - Apr 23, 2013 at 10:41 AM

    This explains the Yankee security detail. I’m not going to comment on why this is happening but will add that the Jays organization needs to fix it before this behavior becomes entrenched.

    • Old Gator - Apr 23, 2013 at 10:45 AM

      Yeah, that really does put a different spin on the news about the Borg security squad from yesterday. It made them look like a traveling goon squad, but perhaps what seemed like a hair-trigger response by the Toronto security people might just be evidence that they’ve finally gotten fed up. I’ve been to several games at the Rogers and never noticed anything untoward in the stands, and Zaun might also be exaggerating a bit, but if there’s any truth to this then by all means, let’s clean it up quickly. If that means limited beer sales until folks get the point, so be it.

      • heyblueyoustink - Apr 23, 2013 at 10:49 AM

        They’ll just drink more in the parking lot if you limit the beer sales.

        Within Citizen’s Bank Park, there is no secret that aside from visible security, there are also plain clothsed security all over in the stands. Generally that tends to assist is quelling things inside the park. I think i’ve seen one fight in the confines of the park iteself in however many years they’ve been opened.

        Up to the Jays to boost their security in that kind of manner.

      • beachnbaseball - Apr 23, 2013 at 10:51 AM

        Uhhhh Toronto…’ve got a problem.–mlb.html

      • proudlycanadian - Apr 23, 2013 at 10:54 AM

        Most of the bozos are in the upper 500 section. I refuse to sit there. A lot of 20 something singles now live in the numerous condos that are within easy walking distance from the stadium. Many of them still need adult supervision.

      • proudlycanadian - Apr 23, 2013 at 10:58 AM

        Memo to heyblueyoustink. It is a downtown stadium. There is no parking lot although there is some expensive underground parking nearby. Most fans get there by public transit or by foot.

      • heyblueyoustink - Apr 23, 2013 at 11:00 AM

        PC, are they twenty something hipsters? If so, I might voluntarily agree to personally supervise them, after watching Resevoir Dogs for 24 straight hours to get my mind right.

    • stoutfiles - Apr 23, 2013 at 10:56 AM

      Who cares? Toronto has had to put up with the Yankees and Red Sox taking the playoff spots (and now the Rays) for so long that it has driven them to drinking. Couple that with the fact that they finally get a great team on paper and they still aren’t winning.

      At least they’re still going to games. If they want to pay a bunch of money for beer and be unruly, I say go for it. You deserve it Toronto.

  3. charlutes - Apr 23, 2013 at 10:42 AM

    I’m sorry, who cares? Grow a pair Zaun, u sucked as a player.

    • Old Gator - Apr 23, 2013 at 10:47 AM

      Craig! Call security! We have a boorish poster here!

    • 18thstreet - Apr 23, 2013 at 12:01 PM

      If the experience for the typical fan is unpleasant, the team should care.

    • bigharold - Apr 23, 2013 at 2:41 PM

      “Grow a pair Zaun”

      Right, .. what he said.

      ” They’re getting drunker, and drunker and drunker …”

      He says that like it’s a bad thing.

  4. heyblueyoustink - Apr 23, 2013 at 10:45 AM

    If a Bluejay’s nature is to be ornery, then aren’t there kids just channeling their inner Bluejay?

  5. historiophiliac - Apr 23, 2013 at 10:49 AM

    Release the Porcupines!

    • badintent - Apr 24, 2013 at 3:57 AM

      And the skunks and raccoons !! A few mooses will help too.

  6. jaysfan64 - Apr 23, 2013 at 11:01 AM

    Zaun says section 135 is also bad…think there was a couple fights there earlier this year – this stuff is on youtube..The paper planes coming from the 500 level, though, piss me off…so childish and disrespectful…grow up!!

    • 1943mrmojorisin1971 - Apr 23, 2013 at 12:29 PM

      I remember when my friends and I thought throwing paper airplanes at a game was fun. I think we were 12 years old. Seriously, if these morons find their paper airplanes more exiting than the game then they should just leave or not bother showing up in the first place.

      • 1943mrmojorisin1971 - Apr 23, 2013 at 12:30 PM


  7. cur68 - Apr 23, 2013 at 11:02 AM

    Oh puh-lease. So we get drunk a bit and say/shout a few cuss words and act up? It’s been a long winter, the hockey was crap, The Leafs suck (as usual) and we were promised a good team by all the pundits. Anyhow, its the 100th anniversary of The War of 1812: we are just reminding everyone that we are not to be trifled with.

    Well, whatever. If fans get stupid, security will deal with it and NO ONE will shout about human rights to protect some drunks. Skydome’s well stocked with security and the BeaverMen are NOT being run by Frank McCourt, so things will be dealt with BEFORE someone gets hurt. In the meantime, if the flippin’ BeaverMen could hit some baseballs in play that wold go a long way to seeing to it that fan frustration wasn’t such a problem.

    Pitching’s come around, now if the bats would just wake up….

    • sabatimus - Apr 23, 2013 at 11:14 AM

      The Leafs have made the playoffs for the first time in 10 years.

      • cur68 - Apr 23, 2013 at 11:19 AM

        They still suck

      • 1943mrmojorisin1971 - Apr 23, 2013 at 7:51 PM

        This is a short season. They are the worst team in the playoffs based on a ton of stats other than win-loss.

    • stex52 - Apr 23, 2013 at 11:20 AM

      Officer!! This man is initmidating me! Can you cuff and beat him or cattle prod him or something? He keeps talking about beavers and it makes me want to swoon!

      • cur68 - Apr 23, 2013 at 11:22 AM

        A pox upon you!

        /throws rancid seal blubber at South Texan

      • stex52 - Apr 23, 2013 at 11:33 AM

        /Ages it in the sun under a used saddle for three weeks and calls it “supper.”


      • Old Gator - Apr 23, 2013 at 11:43 AM

        East Texan. All that open space and thin air has reoriented the magnetite fragments in your brain.

      • stex52 - Apr 23, 2013 at 12:20 PM

        You are, of course, correct Gator. I live in the Gulf Coastal Plain. But I noted before I started commenting here that most were east-of-the-Mississippi types. Or others who did not reside anywhere close to Texas. So I thought Stex was a shorthand no one would argue with unless they had spent a lot of time in the state and knew the difference.

        You are the only one to date.

      • historiophiliac - Apr 23, 2013 at 12:25 PM

        I thought east Texas was Texarkana.

        You know you just embarrassed yourself by calling for the police instead of pulling out that heat yer packin’ and handlin’ it yersef, right?

      • cur68 - Apr 23, 2013 at 12:30 PM

        All of Texas is South of me so I am correct. Also, I am stunned Stex didn’t unlimber a hockey stick shaped hand cannon and try to shoot my balls off. Stunned a grateful. Now pardon me while i draw my cloak of seal blubber invisibility tighter around me and try not to get beaten to a pulp by all the Leafs fans I’ve irritated today. Those two guys are obstreperous.

      • stex52 - Apr 23, 2013 at 12:36 PM

        Oh, ma’am, he’s just a Canadian. He don’t know no better.

      • stex52 - Apr 23, 2013 at 12:45 PM

        BTW, no. Texarkana is Arkansas.

      • historiophiliac - Apr 23, 2013 at 12:55 PM

        That’s right Christian of you, but you should keep an eye on him for further hooligananigans. Cain’t hold their liquor, you know.

      • manchestermiracle - Apr 23, 2013 at 1:01 PM

        stex: I live near San Antonio and I thought you might be a neighbor. Way over by the gulf? Never mind. But please send along the rancid seal blubber jerky recipe.

      • stex52 - Apr 23, 2013 at 1:14 PM

        Busted, Manchester. No, we live in Richmond. I’m a native, though. And San Antonio is a personal favorite.

      • jackrabbit56 - Apr 23, 2013 at 3:57 PM

        I have one sister who lives about an hour south of Houston, and another about an hour south of Phoenix. When sister A moved to TX, AZ sis said “hey, not that your down south, let’s meet half way”. Sister A pointed out “if we meet half way, I’m still in Texas!” Man, that is one big state….

    • historiophiliac - Apr 23, 2013 at 12:28 PM

      Hey, the Saturday Fox game broadcast included a drinking game called Beach Balls on the Field, Drink!

    • jackrabbit56 - Apr 23, 2013 at 3:58 PM

      Aaargh … now^ . Ratzen-fratzen edit function….

      • chumthumper - Apr 24, 2013 at 8:52 AM

        Ah, “Ratzen-fratzen”; haven’t heard that term used in years. Brings back fond memories of Crazy Bill I worked with when I was in service.

    • badintent - Apr 24, 2013 at 4:01 AM

      200, not 100 year. I know the Leafs suck but not a reason to get that drunk. Don’t drink Molson piss, upgrade to Stella.

  8. joejaws75 - Apr 23, 2013 at 11:04 AM

    Craig. Leave phila out of this you jerk

    • skeleteeth - Apr 23, 2013 at 11:27 AM

      Can you read?

      • 18thstreet - Apr 23, 2013 at 12:04 PM

        Well, he doesn’t know when to use a comma instead of a period. And we have reason to believe he can’t spell ‘Philadelphia’ after the first five letters.

        So I’m going with “no.”

      • heyblueyoustink - Apr 23, 2013 at 1:32 PM

        Now that was funny, and i’m a Philadelphia native!

        He could have gotten away with Philly, theY is too far away from the A to think it a mistake.

  9. brewcrewfan54 - Apr 23, 2013 at 11:11 AM

    Drinking yeah!!!

  10. carefreejt - Apr 23, 2013 at 11:19 AM

    isolated incidents in Philadelphia?
    every time you go to any event in philly there is someone acting like a complete idiot. every time.

    • 1943mrmojorisin1971 - Apr 23, 2013 at 12:47 PM

      I was treated worse for wearing a Red Sox jersey in the SkyDome than I was for wearing a Joe Carter jersey in Philly. That should really tell you something eh?

    • evanwins - Apr 23, 2013 at 2:28 PM

      I have never seen anyone act respectful and get beat up. Not only in Philly but anywhere. People seem to think their entitled to do whatever they want and be able to get away with it. The real world doesn’t work that way and people in Philly have less tolerance for it than elsewhere. It’s a working class town and they handle their business in their house with a bit less forgiveness than maybe other cities do.

      I don’t know where this notion came from that you can act however you want and not suffer any repercussions? Like Grienke thought he could yell at Quentin and nothing would happen.

      As far as coming to games goes: The Phillies have been tops in baseball for attendance the last several years. If you don’t want to put up with “idiots” then don’t come. They don’t need you and you won’t be missed. If you do come, mind your manners and you’ll make it home okay.

    • mgdsquiggy17 - Apr 23, 2013 at 2:30 PM

      There is someone acting like a complete idiot at EVERY professional baseball, football, basketball and hockey game. Get off your high horse.

      • 1943mrmojorisin1971 - Apr 23, 2013 at 7:58 PM

        There are idiots most anywhere at any given time, but his point is mostly sound. Keep your mouth shut and you’ll stay out of the hospital and the local jail. As I’ve said, it’s annoying when you try to mind your own business and you still draw the ire of the idiots.

  11. waiverclaim - Apr 23, 2013 at 11:32 AM

    Are you trying to tell me that its not just online that Jays fans are obnoxious and overbearing?

  12. natslady - Apr 23, 2013 at 12:12 PM

    I thought Drunk Jays Fans was the Blue Jays semi-official blog. So I guess they are proud of it.

  13. indaburg - Apr 23, 2013 at 12:22 PM

    It’s all those Philadelphians moving to Toronto…

    • Francisco (FC) - Apr 23, 2013 at 12:34 PM

      Completely untrue Sally, you can blame them for drunken riots in Rogers Centre when the Phillies go to play but otherwise most of them won’t bother to go to the stadium.

    • evanwins - Apr 23, 2013 at 4:41 PM

      Just look at how you people treat Phillies fans, how the guy who runs this blog treats Phillies fans.

      Then you’re surprised when those fans act hostile towards you?

      You already have your mind made up about them being assholes so I guess there’s nothing to lose by fulfilling your prophecy.

      This story is about Toronto yet the writer HAS to mention Philly. And then the commenters mention Philly. Well guess what, if you want to go ahead and call someone a scumbag or an idiot or whatever, then own up to your part in whatever follows that.

      • indaburg - Apr 23, 2013 at 4:46 PM

        Aw, I only tease those I love. Verbal spitballs.

  14. 1943mrmojorisin1971 - Apr 23, 2013 at 12:27 PM

    Hey look, it’s exactly what I said yesterday!

  15. randygnyc - Apr 23, 2013 at 12:30 PM

    The danger here is that this reputation spreads to the general public. Rabid fans know of each small occurrence, but how will families feel about bringing their 10, 11 and 12 year old children to games? No way can the jays allow these hooligans to affect the fan experience and attendance. Unfortunately, the only way to address/fix this will be through security action. High visibility removals will most certainly be next.

    • 1943mrmojorisin1971 - Apr 23, 2013 at 12:32 PM

      It affects more than just families with kids. My parents have been Jays fans since the start but have boycotted Opening Day and prefer not to go on a Friday night.

  16. randygnyc - Apr 23, 2013 at 12:38 PM

    1943doorsfan- yeah, this is going to affect ALL the fans, young and old alike, that aren’t participants in the hooliganism.

  17. carefreejt - Apr 23, 2013 at 12:54 PM

    mojorisin- tells me you just wear things to sporting events to piss people off

    • 1943mrmojorisin1971 - Apr 23, 2013 at 1:00 PM

      If people get pissed off with me supporting the visiting team that’s fine. I expect some insults hurled my way, but not garbage, especially since I don’t run my mouth.

    • historiophiliac - Apr 23, 2013 at 1:06 PM

      If you want to piss him off back, drop a hashtag.

      • 1943mrmojorisin1971 - Apr 23, 2013 at 1:07 PM

        Good memory, hist.

  18. ch1411 - Apr 23, 2013 at 2:02 PM

    Really Zaun Cherry?! This from a guy who got hammered in a bar in TO, took a picture of an unsuspecting woman and posted it online and referred to her ugly?

    Takes one classy guy to know one I suppose.

    • ch1411 - Apr 23, 2013 at 2:07 PM

      My bad…..

      My first post and I messed up on my grammar! Grammar counts online, right?!

      I meant to say…..

      Really Zaun Cherry?! This from a guy who got hammered in a bar in TO, took a picture of an unsuspecting woman and posted it online and referred to her as being ugly?

      Takes one classy guy to know others I suppose.

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