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Dale Sveum gets a vote of confidence from Cubs GM

Apr 24, 2013, 11:51 AM EDT

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April isn’t even over yet and Cubs manager Dale Sveum is already getting the dreaded public vote of confidence from general manager Jed Hoyer.

With the Cubs off to a 6-13 start and Sveum making odd comments about possibly sending Starlin Castro and Anthony Rizzo to the minors Hoyer told reporters: “He’s got our full support. We’re all in this together.”

Here’s a little more, via Patrick Mooney of CSNChicago.com:

It’s been painful to watch because we keep on squandering leads. That’s on Theo [Epstein] and that’s on me. We look at it and we have to figure out ways to get better. We’re not the most talented team in the league right now. We’re trying to build to get there.

But as we get there, we can’t continue to make the kind of mistakes we’ve been making. We have to clean it up. We have to get better. That’s on us. Dale has our complete support. [Job security is] not what he should be thinking about in the least.

There’s certainly enough room for connecting the dots to say the “we have to clean it up” stuff applies to Sveum and his coaching staff, but you can watch the CSNChicago.com video of Hoyer and judge for yourself.

Sveum is 67-114 (.370) as Cubs manager.

  1. kevinleaptrot - Apr 24, 2013 at 11:56 AM

    May as well start packing now Dale. Shame that you’re not going to to get a reasonable chance at turning things around.

    • thekcubrats - Apr 24, 2013 at 12:16 PM

      I haven’t been clocking the sCub, but if last night’s ninth inning is any indication, Sveum can give Yost a run for the money as worst MAN. Russell has been lights out, but he lets Villaneuva, who’s tired, start the night v. Choo who happens to hit LH. As do several of the next hitters. Choo gets sac’d to second (by an idiot Dusty move, giving a tired arm an out) so there’s Votto… not only no IBB, no Russell, but Sveum calls on MARMOL? Instanter, tie game. But oh, after loading the bases with walks, Marmol slips out of giving up the losing run. And gets a W! Because sCub luck into some runs next half inning. Measured by results, that W, Sveum did a fine job. Measured by any other means, he earned a firing on the spot.

      • thekcubrats - Apr 24, 2013 at 12:18 PM

        “start the ninth” not night… should proof before posting but damn, NFL-grad stupidity from the MAN in charge makes me see red…

  2. El Bravo - Apr 24, 2013 at 12:03 PM

    I can’t remember so help me, is 37% a pass or a fail in school?

  3. ryanrockzzz - Apr 24, 2013 at 12:03 PM

    What a mess. You can’t build around Castro. He’s simply not a franchise player.

    • okobojicat - Apr 24, 2013 at 12:42 PM

      Pretty sure there are 29 other teams that would love to Try.

  4. dasportsninja - Apr 24, 2013 at 12:09 PM

    Uh Oh. The only thing worse then the “Vote of Confidence” is the “We have decided to go in a new direction”.

  5. yahmule - Apr 24, 2013 at 12:24 PM

    Since Ryne Sandberg is too classy to laugh at the Cubs’ plight, I’ll do it for him.

    • paperlions - Apr 24, 2013 at 2:26 PM

      I am willing to bet that in 3 years, if Sandberg is still with the Phillies, he won’t be laughing at comparisons of his current and former franchises.

      • yahmule - Apr 24, 2013 at 2:41 PM

        I’m willing to bet the Cubs will suck for the rest of our lives and long after we’re dead, interrupted every 12-15 years by excruciating near misses.

      • paperlions - Apr 24, 2013 at 2:51 PM

        I’ll take that bet.

      • yahmule - Apr 24, 2013 at 3:39 PM

        Lions, you probably have a convincing argument to support your belief, but we’re talking about the natural order of the universe here. You can’t **** with it and neither can Theo. Neither could Ryno for that matter, but it pleases me to hold the Cubs feet to the fire for being insensitive to the guy. Especially when it really doesn’t matter what they do.

        Honestly, though, if I’m Sveum and I want to get through to Castro, I quietly bench him for a few games. Trying to motivate him (and Rizzo) through the newspapers with some pathetically toothless threat is the last thing I want to see from my manager.

      • paperlions - Apr 24, 2013 at 3:43 PM

        Historically, the Phillies have been worse than the Cubs…so….

      • yahmule - Apr 24, 2013 at 4:09 PM

        If you’re willing to look back more than a century, you can make a case for that position. Since the advent of divisional play, it’s not even close.

      • paperlions - Apr 24, 2013 at 4:13 PM

        You were the one that said the universe has order…that order isn’t capricious enough to decide to shift just because baseball created divisions.

      • yahmule - Apr 24, 2013 at 4:46 PM

        So what makes you optimistic about Chicago? Their farm system is middle of the pack and the talent at the major league level is sparse. It’s true they have fewer bad contracts and a better farm than the Phillies, but that’s the price you sometimes have to pay for five straight division titles and a world championship. The Cubs would give anything for a stretch of success like that.

      • paperlions - Apr 24, 2013 at 4:53 PM

        What makes me optimistic about Chicago is that I think they are installing a system that is a good process for developing and identifying talent that leads to winning baseball games. What makes me pessimistic about Philly is that they most certainly have no such system and seem to think that they know what they are doing despite the current regime’s success being 100% derived from the talent accumulated by the prior regime (and spending a lot of money).

      • yahmule - Apr 24, 2013 at 5:47 PM

        I want to know what the Cubs are doing specifically to develop and identify talent that puts them ahead of Philadelphia or anybody else for that matter. You’re going to talk Philly’s expenditures after that international spending spree the Cubs went on this off season?

      • paperlions - Apr 24, 2013 at 5:55 PM

        Sorry, I don’t have the time to outline everything for you.

        The Phillies situation looks horrid. Their system has little to offer (a few decent pitchers, really nothing on the position side is close or very promising). They have drafted badly, developed worse, and spent horribly on old player. They place value on things that don’t lead to winning…and appear to have little idea what they were doing right before Arbuckle left. There isn’t a team with money whose future I wouldn’t take before the Phillies….and the Cubs have money.

      • yahmule - Apr 24, 2013 at 6:18 PM

        I would settle for the idea that they’re equally doomed.

  6. mybrunoblog - Apr 24, 2013 at 12:50 PM

    Things in life you never want

    1. Hearing the word cancer from your doctor.
    2. A letter from the IRS telling you about your upcoming audit.
    3. A vote of confidence from the General Manager.

    All of these things rarely end well.

  7. dacty4491 - Apr 24, 2013 at 12:54 PM

    What I have trouble understanding is how these analytically inclined execs, like Epstein and Hoyer, find it so difficult to hire a manager who reflects their understanding of the game. There may not be a lot of guys out there who reflect their philosophy, but there have to be some.

    • okobojicat - Apr 24, 2013 at 1:11 PM

      Uhhh, they did. They specifically sought out Sveum because he his extremely analytical and they have great communication.

      The people calling for Sveum’s head are absurd. He was hired by Theo and Jed because of their experience with him in Boston and his embracing of smarter baseball. He’ll be given a full 2 years (and probably the 4 on this contract) to figure it out.
      The comments about sending Rizzo and Castro down were obviously attempts at a wake-up call because they were lackadaisical on defense and because of frustration.

      The team the cubs built was this off season was targeted somewhere between 68-72 wins. that’s about how good of a team it is. Their starters have over performed and their relievers besides Marmol have been ok. Offense has been terrible and defense hasn’t been great. They aren’t expected tocompete this year and thinking otherwise makes you an idiot. they could possibly compete next year, if a couple things change. But right now, this is about how good of a team they are.

      They don’t have a 3B, they don’t have a CF, the have two platoon players playing everyday in the corners, and their 2B can’t hit. Their catcher is a question mark. Their rotation is not great. However, only the SS and 1B are signed long term, they have some extremely interesting OF in the minor leagues, and a couple 3Bs. its a team built to have $ flexibility when Marmol/Soriano/Zambrano $s come off the books.

  8. shanabartels - Apr 24, 2013 at 1:24 PM

    I remember reading just a few weeks ago in a feature on Theo Epstein that you guys linked here that the Cubs brass and Dale Sveum are well aware that this rebuilding period is going to be a painful time with a lot of ugly baseball, but they’re not going to slap a band-aid on the situation. They said the Cubs’ plan is to ride out the rebuilding period without too many flashy free agent signings or rash decisions. (I’m paraphrasing, obviously.) I don’t think they’re going to fire the guy right now for going along with their plan. But if people are looking for things to worry about, that’s their problem.

  9. vallewho - Apr 24, 2013 at 4:10 PM

    So when is he getting fired???

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