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Quote of the Day: Davey Johnson has had it

Apr 24, 2013, 12:30 PM EDT

Davey Johnson AP

Davey Johnson said it was “World Series or bust” this season for the Nats. So far they’re scuffling, however. And last night we got a rare look at a ticked off Davey Johnson:

“I’m usually pretty patient, but I’m getting to my rope’s end,” Johnson said. “The effort’s there, but we’re just not getting it done. We’ve got the players who can get it done, we’re just not getting it done. It’s time to get a little mad.”

For the normally even-keeled Johnson that’s the equivalent of the “Bull Durham” lollygag-your-way-around-the-infield speech.

They just need to start hitting. Right now it’s Bryce Harper, Ian Desmond, Kurt Suzuki and a lot of underachieving.

 

  1. goskinsvt - Apr 24, 2013 at 12:34 PM

    Davey Johnson on 106.7 in DC this morning, and I quote: “I’m real close to monkey tilt right now!”

    • indaburg - Apr 24, 2013 at 5:05 PM

      Monkey tilt? I need to hear Johnson and Vin Scully have a conversation.

  2. kevinleaptrot - Apr 24, 2013 at 12:36 PM

    & they need to start catching & throwing better. They have the worst fielding percentage & most errors in MLB. Starters need to pitch deeper into games too. These 5 inning, ~100 pitch outings have got to stop.

  3. hittfamily - Apr 24, 2013 at 12:36 PM

    Davey should read the “Weird Wuss”‘s “tweeter” account more often because the weird wuss seems to always get more out of less.

    • badintent - Apr 25, 2013 at 3:45 AM

      Davey is a cool dude but he needs Lifelift on that turkey gooble big time.. His Adam apple is now a watermelon

  4. mybrunoblog - Apr 24, 2013 at 12:44 PM

    It must that Washington D.C. Water. Most of the politicians in Washington have lots of potential but just done get the job done. Maybe we can send them all to Montreal?

  5. Jonny 5 - Apr 24, 2013 at 12:45 PM

    Like the Phillies but to a lesser extent this team suffers from OBP-itis. The Nats have one player in top 100 for OBP. The Phillies top OBP guy isn’t even in the top 100. This is what happens when you don’t respect good plate discipline as a winning factor. Both teams need to stop trying to go yard at every AB.

    • Francisco (FC) - Apr 24, 2013 at 12:49 PM

      Yep, only the Uptons can afford to go yard each AB.

    • heyblueyoustink - Apr 24, 2013 at 1:34 PM

      J5, was wondering where you were hiding. Good to see you alive and well!

    • therealtrenches - Apr 24, 2013 at 2:57 PM

      Couldn’t agree more about plate discipline. I’ve been watching Jimmy Rollins chase high pitches early in counts (and pop them up) for over a decade now. Like Davey, I’ve had it, too (and have for years).

  6. Old Gator - Apr 24, 2013 at 12:47 PM

    I preferred the lolligag speech.

    • DelawarePhilliesFan - Apr 24, 2013 at 12:56 PM

      Well done reply!

      • Old Gator - Apr 24, 2013 at 5:20 PM

        Classic moments in cinema….

      • schmedley69 - Apr 24, 2013 at 8:31 PM

        I was watching Bull Durham recently, and I started thinking about the actor who played the manager. He was in a lot of big movies in the late 80’s (Raising Arizona, Twins), but I couldn’t remember seeing him in anything recently. I looked him up on IMDB, and it turns out that he died of a brain aneurysm in the late 80’s, just as his career was taking off. Poor guy.

      • DelawarePhilliesFan - Apr 25, 2013 at 6:59 AM

        Yes, I did realize he had passed – very sad. Great, character actor. That curmudgeonly, smart yet not too swift, angry but likeable character – he did it better than anyone. Even in this scene – he is trying to be terrifying, yet every other word is “lollygag”, and he struggles to throw the bats. Or Raising AZ – he yells at the FBI they are supposed be able to “trace those microbes left by Commies, and criminals and shit!”. Ahhhh, he was great!

  7. Shafer's Dealer - Apr 24, 2013 at 12:48 PM

    I would be pissed too if I was given the World Series trophy before playing a single game… know how embarrassing it is to return that.. ask the Phillies.

    • heyblueyoustink - Apr 24, 2013 at 1:35 PM

      Difference is there were reasons to expect the Phils to snag at least one other trophy. The Nats expectations were coming off a one season sample size.

      • 18thstreet - Apr 24, 2013 at 2:10 PM

        No, no. Tom Boswell and Mike Rizzo were very clear about this: it was fine to piss away being the best team in 2012 by benching their (uninjured!) best starter, because 2013 is what counts.

        “Wait ’til next year” always works out — that’s why fans say it so often.

      • Old Gator - Apr 24, 2013 at 2:27 PM

        When of course Strassburg didn’t figure in their losses in any way, shape or form. But that’s OK – once you have a sound bite, beat it to death for all it wasn’t worth regardless.

      • 18thstreet - Apr 24, 2013 at 6:05 PM

        Yeah, losing their best pitcher had nothing to do with other pitchers getting innings instead.

      • Old Gator - Apr 24, 2013 at 6:48 PM

        The other pitchers had them two innings away from winning the division series. Their bullpen blew it. As I asked below, do you really think Strassburg would have pitched that ninth inning when Storen came apart? Come on. The Strassberg benching is just something people bring up when they want to comment on the Gnats for the sake of commenting on them and have nothing else to say.

  8. randygnyc - Apr 24, 2013 at 1:01 PM

    The Nat’s pitching overachieved last year, IMO. The offense is performing as I expected. The entire starting lineup has career batting averages at or below .270 (most way below), with the exception of Span’s .280. Nat’s may be an 87 win team this year.

    • 18thstreet - Apr 24, 2013 at 2:11 PM

      Please translate batting averages to onbase percentage.

      Sincerely,
      1995

  9. aceshigh11 - Apr 24, 2013 at 1:05 PM

    Davey needs to bring Darryl and Dwight in to the clubhouse for some 1986-style “pep”.

    And by “pep”, I mean “straight up the nose cocaine”.

  10. bolweevils2 - Apr 24, 2013 at 1:11 PM

    If he acknowledges the effort is there, what else can he ask of them? It not like they can determine whether their effort yields results.

    So they are .500 on the season. If they’d have played about like you’d expect, they’d have a .600 winning percentage and 12 wins. So they are two wins off the expected pace with 142 to go.

    Big whup.

  11. stlouis1baseball - Apr 24, 2013 at 1:22 PM

    In addition to the team…he should be calling out the fans for not showing up to games.
    At least last night anyway…I was really surprised at the number of Cardinals fans in attendance.
    St. Louis always travels well but I could actually hear the crowd chanting “let’s go Cardinals” in the 8th and 9th innings. If I am a Nationals fan…that is simply not acceptable.

    • trab1011 - Apr 24, 2013 at 1:45 PM

      There was a HUGE Caps game last night, it was really cold at the park on Monday night – don’t know about last night – and DC is still a transient town. Folks from all over the country (and world) live here including fans of the Cardinals.

      Not an excuse, just a partial explanation. Nats fans will be out in larger numbers when it warms up and school lets out.

      • 18thstreet - Apr 24, 2013 at 2:13 PM

        On in sports is it the consumers’ fault for not purchasing enough of a product.

        If Washington fans are not purchasing tickets, they are too expensive. Period. Want to sell more of something? Lower the price or improve the product. That’s capitalism.

        I can understand why the Lerners would be confused about this — someone built them a free stadium. But fans have no excuse.

      • 18thstreet - Apr 24, 2013 at 2:18 PM

        That said, the Nats are drawing 31,000 fans a game, 14th out of 30 teams. The ballpark is 75 percent full, good for 12th.

        Someone has to fill out the bell curve. I’m not shocked that the Nats are in the middle of these averages.

      • stlouis1baseball - Apr 24, 2013 at 4:17 PM

        Thanks for the reply Trab. I can appreciate where you are coming from.
        But aside from the Hockey game…it still baffles me. Again…I could clearly hear “let’s go Cardinals” in the 8th and 9th. And after all…it is cold, in the Month of April and a school night for everyone. Please don’t take that the wrong way. Cause’ again…I understand the Caps game affecting it somewhat. I just don’t understand the Cardinals chant at the end of a game in which the home team was trying to rally. I smiled and pointed it out to my Wife. But it shocked the hell out of me. I would lay most of the blame squarely on the baseball you guys have been playing over the last couple of weeks. Which sorta’ ties into what Davey is saying.

  12. evanwins - Apr 24, 2013 at 1:26 PM

    I disagree emphatically with Davey Johnson in that I don’t believe his team is underachieving this year but that they overacheived last year. This year they are being the players they are supposed to be.

    Everything that could have gone right for the 2012 Nats did go right but they thought that’s who they were. They’re not. How they are playing now is the real Nats and you cna put a majority of the blame for the fiasco that this team is and will continue to be squarely on Davey Johnson for feeding into the hype about the 2013 Nats. They are 2-9 against teams that aren’t in last place. 8 wins against very, very bad teams: 5 against the Marlins and 3 against the White Sox.

    Espinosa has 7 errors already.That’s who he is. Storen, Stammen and the rest of that bullpen had great years last year but that’s not who they have been they’re careers.Strasburg has never made it to the 8th inning, that’s who he is. Gio way over-performed last year. Werth was always a good player but not a great one. And Denard Span went from being an average player to the best CF in baseball when he signed with the Nats-just for signing with them. It doesn’t work that way.

    It’s really funny to read and listen to all the media as this Nats balloon blows up.They wouldn’t shut up about them before and now they’re all backtracking and covering up.

    • js20011041 - Apr 24, 2013 at 3:33 PM

      I suppose we can remind you of this in July when they’re in first place? The Nationals will be fine. The season’s only a few weeks old. They’re getting people on base, they’re just not driving them in. Until someone proves to me that hitting with runners on us inherently different than hitting with the bases empty, I’m going to assume that that will change at some point this season. They’ve got good, young pitching. I think Gio Gonzalez will come back down to earth a little bit and I think the Haren signing has a chance to be a disaster, but they’re also going to get a full year, health provided, from Strasburg. They’ll also have Bryce Harper with a year of experience under his belt. Remember, this is a team that gets to compete with the Marlins (awful), the Mets (below average), and the Phillies (average to below). I’ll be very surprised of they win fewer than 92 games.

  13. greymares - Apr 24, 2013 at 1:33 PM

    where’s nats lady seems she only shows up to brag. might be they played over their heads last year and are now playing at their level.

    • natslady - Apr 24, 2013 at 4:02 PM

      What was the question?

      • DelawarePhilliesFan - Apr 24, 2013 at 4:36 PM

        Good one

      • indaburg - Apr 24, 2013 at 5:03 PM

        You’ve been schooled, greymares.

  14. trab1011 - Apr 24, 2013 at 1:51 PM

    Meh, they’ll be fine. The bullpen has been better lately and the defense will improve – and if it doesn’t? Hey the Tigers made the WS last year with an embarrassing defense.

    In each of the last three games they had a chance to rally and just aren’t getting the clutch hit. Getting Zim back will help.

    Oh BTW: its April 24th. They don’t hand out playoff invitations for another 5+ months.

    • evanwins - Apr 24, 2013 at 2:45 PM

      “Oh BTW: its April 24th. They don’t hand out playoff invitations for another 5+ months.”

      Really? Cause it seemed the Nats were RSVP’ing in March.

  15. creek0512 - Apr 24, 2013 at 2:25 PM

    Glad to see these arrogant losers go down. They have 1 good season and they suddenly think they are entitled to the World Series. If you want to win so bad, then don’t bench your best player in the postseason for no reason.

    • Old Gator - Apr 24, 2013 at 2:31 PM

      There were excellent reasons – and none of them had any bearing on what happened in the postseason, as you would know if you had a mind in your brain instead of a head full of apocryphal sound bites. You think Strassburg would have been called in to pitch in the ninth inning of that final game? Really?

  16. thebadguyswon - Apr 24, 2013 at 3:02 PM

    Or maybe the Nats aren’t the best team in the last 100 years like some of their fans believe.

    • nothanksimdriving123 - Apr 24, 2013 at 4:28 PM

      Well, now they are under .500, so they are very definitely not playing like champions.

      • Old Gator - Apr 24, 2013 at 5:21 PM

        It’s April, folks.

  17. therealtrenches - Apr 24, 2013 at 3:45 PM

    Craig wrote:

    “So far they’re scuffling.”

    Remember last year’s comment war about the use of the word “scuffling” to describe Bryce Harper’s early struggles?

    Good times.

  18. natslady - Apr 24, 2013 at 4:18 PM

    I don’t think it was the fans as much as Sports Illustrated and all the pundits. Fans here are still bruised from a lot of bad seasons. Look at ESPN, NBC Sports etc, all picking Nats (and TIgers) for the World Series. That wasn’t fans. If the Nats are/were overrated, look at who did the rating. If was the so-called “professional” sports writers.

    • natslady - Apr 24, 2013 at 4:30 PM

      Well, and Davey, of course, with “World Series or Bust.” Can’t leave out Davey. WIll be interesting to see how this team handles adversity. They handled it pretty well last year when expectations were 81 games. Dusty Baker said in an interview that the hardest time to manage is when expectations are the highest. Fans are all over you for every loss and players are pressing.

    • DelawarePhilliesFan - Apr 24, 2013 at 4:40 PM

      Come on now – it was both parties. But then again, season over. It’s just started

  19. natslady - Apr 24, 2013 at 4:58 PM

    Can you blame fans for being excited? 98 wins, first time in the postseason, and then we were told all winter how much Rizzo had improved the team with his moves? I still think there is a difference between excitement and “arrogance.” But believe me, some of the bandwagon fans are already getting off the bandwagon because, hey, it’s not easy!

    • DelawarePhilliesFan - Apr 24, 2013 at 5:29 PM

      No I would not blame the fans for being excited, and I would not blame anyone for picking them to wint the division. I would just note that there has been this delusion amongst Nats fans, and a good deal of writers. There were a ton of guys last year who did a heck of a lot better then they had before, yet there was this assumption nothing could go wrong in 2013 – everything would just continue to come up roses.

      It is April, and plenty can change. But I think a lot of people are staruing to realize staying on top is way harder then getting there

      • natslady - Apr 24, 2013 at 6:01 PM

        Very common, and I don’t know how you get around it. People (fans and analysts) assume there is a “trajectory” that goes one direction. Rockies are going to be bad because they were bad last year, etc.

      • DelawarePhilliesFan - Apr 24, 2013 at 6:26 PM

        Yes, it is very common – and I agree, there is no way around. Ironically with Phillies fans – it’s no problem. People ALWAYS assume the worst around here….yes, I can certainly get how we appear to others. But that fact is, amongst ourselves, we always see doom and gloom coming….40-12 run in July/Aug and people are saying “Oh no, they peaked too early, this is terrible!”

        It’s all from the ’64 collapse, and to a lesser extent Game 3 of the ’77 NLCS. Being right there at the end coming up short in ’03,’05 and ’06 didn’t help either….

    • sumerduckman - Apr 24, 2013 at 6:38 PM

      I would guess that a lot of fans are reacting the same way a kid would react if they were told for six months that they were going to get a pony for Christmas….. but ended up with a dead hamster.

      That’s pretty much how these guy’s have been playing. Three wins in the last ten games? Fall behind the Mets?

      I hope Mr. Johnson rips them a new behooten.

  20. schmedley69 - Apr 24, 2013 at 8:36 PM

    As a Phillies fan living in the D.C. area, I found the arrogance of a lot of “newly minted” Nats fans nauseating. They were acting like the World Series was their birth right. Being a fan of team that took 97 years to win it’s first title, I would prefer to see their fans earn their stripes and suffer some before they reach the pinnacle. With apologies to Old Gator, the fact that the Marlins won two titles in their first 10 years of existance makes me sick as well.

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