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Tommy Lasorda and Vin Scully are barely tolerating Psy

May 1, 2013, 8:23 AM EST

I don’t begrudge Psy his 15 minutes of U.S. fame. Even if he’s on minute 24 now. Guy is a legit musician in Korea and if I were him I’d milk it over here like crazy too.

But not everyone feels that way. Here’s a video of his appearance at Dodger Stadium last night. Check out Tommy Lasorda spending 85% of his time in Psy’s presence failing to comprehend what he was seeing and the other 15% of it not approving.  Then listen for Vin Scully’s voice to come on and give the game recap at the end. You can almost hear him rolling his eyes as he begins to speak:

I feel like Lasorda and Scully went out for a beer after the game and had a conversation in which they wondered when, exactly, the world went to complete hell.

  1. realgone2 - May 1, 2013 at 8:27 AM

    “Guy is a legit musician…” What are you huffing?

    • deadeyedesign23 - May 1, 2013 at 8:41 AM

      He makes music doesn’t he?

      • realgone2 - May 1, 2013 at 8:46 AM

        My friend’s son makes “music” with his playskool instruments. Is he a legit musician?

      • deadeyedesign23 - May 1, 2013 at 9:45 AM

        Does your friend’s son have a single that’s 5x platinum? My friends son plays Little League….that’s clearly the same as playing Short Stop for the Yankees.

      • realgone2 - May 1, 2013 at 1:07 PM

        So I’m guessing you are one of the record execs that signed this guy?

    • Craig Calcaterra - May 1, 2013 at 8:58 AM

      You left out the “in Korea” part.

      • indaburg - May 1, 2013 at 9:14 AM

        Ah. Got it. That’s like being a legit musician in Germany.

      • indaburg - May 1, 2013 at 10:38 AM

        Hmm. It appears we have some closeted Hasselhoff fans. It’s ok, you can come out. I won’t mock you… much.

      • eightyraw - May 1, 2013 at 7:50 PM

        He is a “legit musician” no matter the country. He was briefly enrolled at Berklee College of Music here in the US before dropping out to pursue a career in Korea. This turned out to be a wise choice since in Korea (and much of East Asia) he has been a superstar for over a decade despite minimal affiliation with the dominating music agencies. K-Pop is no less “legit” than any other style/genre of music.

        As for the knock against German musicans: Kraftwerk, Neu!, Can, Faust, Tangerine Dream, Klaus Schulze, Ulrich Schnauss, Stephan Mathieu …

  2. southofheaven81 - May 1, 2013 at 8:30 AM

    • schlom - May 1, 2013 at 1:06 PM

      Better Tommy Lasorda:

      • schlom - May 1, 2013 at 1:07 PM

        And another one:

  3. randygnyc - May 1, 2013 at 8:39 AM

    Psy is a scumbag and should either be interned or deported.

    • escapingexile - May 1, 2013 at 8:58 AM

      And by calling for him to be interned, you are now no less ignorant than he is. Congratulations.

    • jm91rs - May 1, 2013 at 9:02 AM

      No one should be interned, that’s a pretty awful part of our history. He shouldn’t be deported either, as being here and enjoying the money and fame has likely changed his opinions. Everyone hates those big bad Americans until they have a chance to enjoy the freedoms we provide.

      I will go with scumbag though, I just wish his comments were better known to those that claim to tolerate his music. I think he never would have gotten as big as he is if someone had uncovered those statements a little sooner.

      • skids003 - May 1, 2013 at 10:57 AM

        I guess I’m not with it, but what kind of “comments” did he make? Honestly just asking.

  4. randygnyc - May 1, 2013 at 8:41 AM

    And btw, Craig, you sound like a fool with this post. Either you don’t know about Psy advocating for the death of American men, women or children or you intentionally omitted it from your article. Which one is it?

    • skeleteeth - May 1, 2013 at 8:54 AM

      “Kill those f—ing Yankees who have been torturing Iraqi captives/Kill those f—ing Yankees who ordered them to torture/Kill their daughters, mothers, daughters-in-law and fathers/Kill them all slowly and painfully.”

      • jm91rs - May 1, 2013 at 8:58 AM

        Judging by all of the thumbs down on here, I’d say either people don’t care that he advocated for the death of innocent Americans, or they just really like his “music” and don’t know how much he panders to whichever audience he has at the moment. You can bet when his 15 minutes are up he’ll be back in Korea talking about how awful it was in American making those millions of dollars.

      • skeleteeth - May 1, 2013 at 9:10 AM

        ” that he advocated for the death of innocent Americans”

        Where? It was in protest against American soldiers stationed in South Korea in 2004 after a South Korea sent more troops to Iraq and a South Korean missionary had been beheaded by militants. Granted, stupid thing to say, which he admitted to, but where in the quote I posted above does he call for general sweeping death of innocent Americans?

      • jm91rs - May 1, 2013 at 9:16 AM

        “Kill those f—ing Yankees who ordered them to torture/Kill their daughters, mothers, daughters-in-law and fathers/Kill them all slowly and painfully.”

        If I’m not mistaken, Yankees=americans. And I’m fairly certain most people would categorize American “daughters and mothers” as innocents.

        I’m not sure why you would post those lyrics and then defend him. As I said below, I understand there is a vocal minority (at least in the news it’s reported as a minority) of people in South Korea that can trace the death of someone they knew to the Korean war, which America was obviously a big part of. I don’t begrudge them the right to dislike Americans to this day. My problem is if you’re going to make money singing about killing Americans, Americans that pay to see you or hear you are probably pretty naive.

      • skeleteeth - May 1, 2013 at 11:14 AM

        Do I really need to explain it? He’s talking about the people that were connected to Abu Ghraib and not Americans in general. I agree it’s a stupid statement but you guys seem intent on misinterpreting what was said.

      • peoplesrepublic0fdabayarea - May 1, 2013 at 10:24 AM

        *yawn* he meant the NEW YORK Yankees fools!

    • Craig Calcaterra - May 1, 2013 at 9:01 AM

      The fact that you know about random stuff this guy said in a song over a decade ago — which I didn’t know about until I Googled it just now — probably says way more about you than him. Lots of people have said a lot of dumb things in history. I don’t feel it necessary to keep tabs on all of it.

      • jm91rs - May 1, 2013 at 9:09 AM

        Your statement is true, but we aren’t just talking about a song saying “f-the police”. We’re talking about a guy advocating for the death of you, your family, everyone you know. And I’m sure skeleteeth had to look those lyrics up (i hope), but it was a pretty big deal in the “news” when those lyrics turned up a few months ago. The fact that he remembered Psy wishing death to Americans isn’t a surprise as many people know this.

        I know enough of South Korea to know there is a vocal minority that can’t stand Americans, obviously dating back to the war. I’m sure a fair amount of Koreans can justify in their heads that the Americans caused the Korean war and all of the suffering of Korean people during that war. My problem is that when you try to cash in on that anti-american view, you probably don’t deserve the right to come to America to seek your fame. I wonder how difficult it would be to get into this country if it were well known that you sing songs about killing innocent Americans.

      • hasbeen5 - May 1, 2013 at 9:09 AM

        The fact that you’re more tolerant of a guy saying Americans should be killed than you are of someone saying the word “fag” might say more about you than about the guy to whom you replied. And no, I don’t call people fags, just pointing out that you go out of your way to call people out for things like that, but then brush things like advocating actual violence (other than beanballs) under the rug.

      • skeleteeth - May 1, 2013 at 9:12 AM

        http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1698546/psy-apology-anti-american-lyrics.jhtml

        Never forget, America. Never. Forget.

      • escapingexile - May 1, 2013 at 9:13 AM

        Also omitted is the portion in which the commentary is prefaced with the fact that he was performing with another act on stage singing their song. Then again, I suppose that would take the whole zing out of it should we be forced to analyze the lyrics of someone most of us here have never seen or heard of. I’m not condoning it. But at the same time, I don’t give much merit to this. I mean had some of my comments from the past decade been publicly recorded, I’d probably be branded a terrorist myself.

      • Craig Calcaterra - May 1, 2013 at 9:15 AM

        If I felt for one minute that Psy advocating for my death had any impact on my life or the life of anyone else, I’d perhaps be worried.

        Whatever reason he said that for — most likely to draw attention to himself — is his business. He’s a grown man and if he wants to say stupid things, let him. I feel the same way about people who use racial slurs and homophobic putdowns. I’ll care if they say it in my comments section. I’ll care if they are in an influential position within baseball or some other institution I care about. But I don’t think Psy fits that description at all.

      • jm91rs - May 1, 2013 at 9:23 AM

        I’ll just be clear that I don’t have a problem with your story. It’s funny to see Lasorda’s confusion over the clown dancing next to him. I’m simply saying that just because some of us know of what Psy said to make money doesn’t say anything about us other than the fact that we don’t like people singing about killing innocent people.

        It certainly doesn’t “say way more about you than him”. It was pretty well publicized when the news came out.

      • Craig Calcaterra - May 1, 2013 at 9:31 AM

        Well, I totally missed it. I don’t think it’s hard to avoid news about Psy without much effort. I suspect it was quite a talking point for political chatterboxes who care about things like culture wars. If you’re spending a lot of time listening to people like that, well, good luck going through life not finding things to be upset about.

      • jm91rs - May 1, 2013 at 9:34 AM

        You’re very good at making arguments where there are none to be made. Or maybe it’s an effort to put someone down when there’s no need?

        I comb through anything having to do with North and South Korea. I find it fascinating. Sadly that means I must read through stories of Psy and Dennis Rodman on occasion.

      • randygnyc - May 1, 2013 at 9:42 AM

        Really, you’re going to take a shot at me because I read the news? Because I’m informed? This reminds me of the the young black student who excels in schools and is bullied by his peers for conforming to “white man” standards.

        Its one thing for Psy to come here and fleece naive Americans. The problem is that they choose to remain ignorant. We get what we deserve. Look no further than the clown we have as president. He honored Psy only a few days after finding out about his anti-American screed, in the White House no less.

      • easports82 - May 1, 2013 at 10:08 AM

        MTV/Entertainment Weekly does not count as ‘news’

      • randygnyc - May 1, 2013 at 10:19 AM

        Easports- I agree. But I was referring to NBC, CBS, abc, fox, CNN, la times, Wall Street journal etc. in fact, it was so widely reported that I believe those that didn’t know are willfully ignorant and its those people who should be excluded from or electoral process.

      • nategearhart - May 1, 2013 at 10:29 AM

        Randy, if you are “informed” and “read the news”, then you caught that the translation CNN used was woefully inaccurate and that it contained no actual death threats, right?

        http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2012/12/11/controversy-over-psys-anti-american-lyrics-might-be-based-on-shoddy-translation/

      • randygnyc - May 1, 2013 at 10:37 AM

        Nate- are you excusing Psy’s sentiments? Because these words were in English, “While I’m grateful for the freedom to express one’s self, I’ve learned there are limits to what language is appropriate and I’m deeply sorry for how these lyrics could be interpreted. I will forever be sorry for any pain I have caused by those words.
        “While it’s important that we express our opinions, I deeply regret the inflammatory and inappropriate language I used to do so.”

      • nategearhart - May 1, 2013 at 10:49 AM

        The article I posted explains that Psy’s “sentiments” were misinterpreted. They were still derogatory, but not at all to the extreme that that the initial anonymous and erroneous translation claimed. It looks to me as though his apology claims as much.
        So he sang another band’s lyrics insulting Americans for our involvement in Iraq, then apologized for the insult. I’m not sure what the problem is. If you’re problem is with the “killing Yankees” thing, well, as I linked, it’s been shown that he expressed no such sentiment intentionally.

      • randygnyc - May 1, 2013 at 11:04 AM

        Nate- you seem he’ll bent on giving this dirtbag the benefit of the doubt. The CNN article ONLY says the translation “maybe, might or may” be inaccurate. All of the alternative translations call for the murder of Americans. And it’s unconscionable to cop out that he was “singing someone else’s lyrics”. It’s his own tongue. So I guess it’s ok to quote the kkk or other assorted hateful bigots and then hide behind the concept that those famous quotes were not my own. Never mind they came out of my own mouth. Liberals twisting themselves into pretzels only shows their own hypocrisy.

      • randygnyc - May 1, 2013 at 11:08 AM

        Nate said “If you’re problem is with the “killing Yankees” thing, well, as I linked, it’s been shown that he expressed no such sentiment intentionally.” That’s a flat out lie, liar!!!! 3 of the 4 alternate translations explicitly says killing Yankees.

      • slickdemetrius - May 1, 2013 at 11:11 AM

        Reading your comments Mr.Calcaterra on this subject are very disappointing to me because I have enjoyed many of your articles over the past year. I don’t believe this says more about the poster than Psy whatsoever.
        Knowing what influential (lacking talent or not) individuals are promoting has it’s importance to some and relegating it as irrelevant or strange is insulting. Almost reeks of another example of media attempting to dumb down our nation.
        That said, as much as it matters little to you I’m sure, any story in the future with your name attached, will be overlooked by me.

      • nategearhart - May 1, 2013 at 11:17 AM

        Who’s bending? I read a follow-up report that explains how the translation was most likey shoddy, and I said “oh ok”. Then I reconsidered my evaluation of the situation. Sounds more to me like you’re all too eager to take an anonymous translation as fact simply because it happened to be first. All the other translations do not call for the murder of Americans; they show how ambiguous the “statement” (song lyrics) are. Do they say kill Americans? Or do they say that American soldiers kill Iraqis? It’s still derogatory, but no more so than a whole mess of American punk and metal (and folk and rap and etc etc etc…) groups singing about their disgust of the Iraq war.
        And just where the hell did this “liberal” business come from?

      • evanwins - May 1, 2013 at 3:49 PM

        Randy -
        Didn’t you just yesterday, on this site, wish death on an American citizen?

        http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/30/delmon-young-is-go/

        Seems to me you are a complete moron. What exactly do you contribute to society anyway, besides hate and ignorance?

        Further, looking through your comments, you never contribute anything positive or worthwhile to any conversation. To tell you the truth, you don’t even comment on baseball at all, only players you hate and things you don’t like.

        How sad is your life?

    • scoocha - May 1, 2013 at 11:50 AM

      Don’t forget about the third option – Craig advocating for it himself. Seems that way after I read these articles by him.
      Hopefully someone will take out Psy vigilante style and then be pardoned quickly thereafter.
      I’m hoping were at 14:59 in terms of Psy’s US popularity. Anti-American POS.

  5. scoops1 - May 1, 2013 at 8:51 AM

    If theres one guy who needs to bite the curb…its Psy

    • nategearhart - May 1, 2013 at 10:34 AM

      If that’s in reference to the scene in American History X, then that’s pretty fucked up.

  6. indaburg - May 1, 2013 at 9:01 AM

    Craig, you needed a stronger warning label prior to that video. My expression was pretty much the same as Lasorda’s, and I like dancing in general.

    • jm91rs - May 1, 2013 at 9:10 AM

      Yeah I was expecting Psy to just stand there and wave and smile. When he started dancing I’m surprised Lasorda didn’t get up and leave.

  7. 4d3fect - May 1, 2013 at 9:09 AM

    “you can almost hear him rolling his eyes”

    Nice.

    • sabatimus - May 1, 2013 at 9:20 AM

      And untrue. Scully was talking in his usual voice. So much about this article sucks. But the biggest part is Psy himself. I saw zero talent.

      • 4d3fect - May 1, 2013 at 10:08 AM

        Of course it was Vin’s usual voice. Just liked the expression Craig used.

        I wouldn’t fret so much about psy. he’ll be gone and forgotten in 3..2..1..

  8. BeEtLjOoZ - May 1, 2013 at 9:21 AM

    Reblogged this on #LouisianaMultiverse.

  9. billyboots - May 1, 2013 at 9:57 AM

    Maybe it’s my network blocking it or something, but the video isn’t there for me.

    • 4d3fect - May 1, 2013 at 10:08 AM

      Lucky you.

    • spellingcops - May 1, 2013 at 10:13 AM

      Then you should go out and buy a lottery ticket.

  10. easports82 - May 1, 2013 at 10:04 AM

    After his spirited disapproval of Neil Diamond, think Old Gator needs to step in as arbiter for Psy’s “music” credentials

    • eightyraw - May 1, 2013 at 7:55 PM

      If Psy doesn’t make music, how do you define music? Credentials are needed to make art? What are the required credentials?

      • largebill - May 2, 2013 at 10:42 AM

        It’s an eye (or in this case ear) of the beholder thing. If I think pretty much all rap is crap (and of course I do) then to me rap isn’t music. Obviously, the opinion of the average person doesn’t really mean rap, or country, or jazz or classical aren’t music, just means they aren’t music that person wants to listen to.

  11. thomas844 - May 1, 2013 at 10:15 AM

    Not only is Gangnam Style out of style but the Harlem Shake came and went ever since then, too. He is way far behind.

  12. elmo - May 1, 2013 at 10:37 AM

    Guy who does silly dance once said something mean. Therefore, silly dance is no longer funny. Yeah, makes perfect sense.

    • randygnyc - May 1, 2013 at 10:48 AM

      More like, “guy who hates America, makes fortune off of unsuspecting Americans”

      • Maxa - May 1, 2013 at 11:17 AM

        I don’t think I’ve ever seen a credible objection of the form “X hates America” (or its cousin, “X is un-American”). Really, letting someone like Psy get under your skin only shows your own insecurity.

  13. rickdobrydney - May 1, 2013 at 11:07 AM

    That look on old Lasorda’s face is the funniest thing I have seen all year —- Leave it to the LA Dodgers to have this utter clown perform at a game —-

    • realgone2 - May 1, 2013 at 1:13 PM

      As opposed to the clowns that preform on the field.

  14. elmo - May 1, 2013 at 2:44 PM

    A wise man once said, if you take the antics of a clown too seriously, you’re the one who ends up looking like a fool.

  15. rickdobrydney - May 1, 2013 at 3:18 PM

    Just watched the clip again—what a smiling , self absorbed weasel —

  16. jtpercell - May 1, 2013 at 7:49 PM

    Uncle Tommy knows how Calculon feels: http://outstandinginthefield.blogspot.com/2013/05/tommy-lasorda-is-not-familiar-with-type.html

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