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Roy Halladay likely headed to the DL

May 5, 2013, 6:50 PM EDT

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After getting rocked by the Marlins this afternoon, many speculated that Halladay was hiding an injury. Turns out they were right. Halladay finally confessed to having felt some shoulder pain after his April 24 start against the Pirates. GM Ruben Amaro says his right-hander is “likely” headed to the disabled list.

“He’s experiencing some shoulder difficulties, some shoulder pain, and we’re likely going to have to put him on the DL,” Ruben Amaro said. “[This discomfort] a little different than I think Doc has experienced. Up until now, he hasn’t really expressed any discomfort. But [Sunday], after the game and after the exam, it sounds like we’re going to have to go ahead and DL him.”

Halladay’s ERA rose to 8.65 after recording only seven outs and surrendering nine runs — the final four on an opposite field grand slam by Adeiny Hechavarria — this afternoon. While he has been able to miss bats, his control is significantly worse as is his command. Ken Rosenthal talked to “two baseball people”, one suggesting that Halladay “can’t repeat his delivery and release point”.

As Chris Branch and Leslie Gudel point out, Halladay has been very hesitant to admit to being anything other than perfectly healthy.

  1. flamethrower101 - May 5, 2013 at 6:56 PM

    Halladay seems to have a self-centered ego surrounding him. He puts himself ahead of the team. If it were the opposite, he would’ve spoken up as soon as he started feeling something. Even if it WAS just soreness, it would’ve been taken care of by now. By waiting until he was rocked twice in the same week, he not only made himself & the team look bad, but he probably worsened the pain in his shoulder.

    And for him to “laugh” when the mention of health comes up then end up on the DL a week later speaks volumes to me about his attitude. Hope that it is nothing more than soreness but if it is more serious he has nobody to blame but himself (that’s assuming that he was lying to the team about his health and they really had no idea, which I believe right now until otherwise stated)

    • natslady - May 5, 2013 at 7:07 PM

      You would need a thousand fingers on every one of your one thousand hands to count the pitchers who won’t “confess” to being hurt. Maybe they should give an MRI and a polygraph once a week to every pitcher.

    • maltarz - May 5, 2013 at 7:09 PM

      Like the time he bought watches for the entire team after his perfect game, or had a replica of his Cy Young trophy made so he could give it to Carlos Ruiz. What a self centered ass.

      • flamethrower101 - May 5, 2013 at 7:11 PM

        Mock my remarks all you like. Point stands that pitchers tend to be pretty selfish and/or stupid with injury-handling, and unfortunately Doc Halladay is no different. Shoulder injuries are extremely serious and this is now the 2nd straight year we are dealing with this. If he did play through part of last year with an injury you would think he would have learned his lesson the first time. Guess not.

      • tuberippin - May 5, 2013 at 8:36 PM

        I won’t mock your comments, but I will strongly disagree with the tone involved.

        Most all players are like that when it comes to injuries. They’re paid to play the game, and they tend to have a deep love for the game. Thus, they’re willing to try and battle at less than 100% health in order to continue playing.

    • brewcrewfan54 - May 5, 2013 at 7:18 PM

      So he should tell someone and sit when he has a hangnail on his glovehand I guess.

    • paperlions - May 5, 2013 at 9:19 PM

      You just described most of Cal Ripken’s career. Just because a guy thinks he can help the team when less than 100% and isn’t willing to take himself out of the lineup doesn’t mean he has a huge ego…it just means he wants to compete.

    • ptfu - May 5, 2013 at 9:49 PM

      No one wants to be Wally Pipp. Players know how replaceable they are. So they hide all sorts of things to avoid the perception of weakness and to stay in the rotation/lineup.

      This is not an excuse. This is an explanation. Sure, ideally players would speak up when they suspected something was wrong, and not just try to “tough it out.” But that’s not the world we live in.

  2. captainwisdom8888 - May 5, 2013 at 7:23 PM

    I can guarantee with 100% certainty that if Halladay(and the Phillies as a team) were playing well this season up to now, he wouldn’t be headed to the DL as we speak. Philadelphia has invested ALOT of money into this guy, and if this injury wasn’t total bullsh*t than Roy would have mentioned it sooner without a doubt. His explanation after today’s game was so inauthentic, so pathetic, my respect for him plummeted instantaneously.

    This is nothing more than an attempt to create a legitimate excuse for Roy’s inadequacies this season.

    • flamethrower101 - May 5, 2013 at 8:09 PM

      My problem with Roy the past couple of years is that he seemed to brush off any questions related to his health, claiming he is perfectly healthy when his outings would deem otherwise.

      When I said earlier that he has a “self-centered ego” in an earlier comment, perhaps I didn’t specify enough. What I meant was when it came to his performance and his health, he appears to be stubborn to a fault. On the team side, they seem to be unwilling or unable to comprehend that something MAY NOT be right with Halladay physically.

      He could be totally right. All of this could be mental and the shoulder soreness could be JUST soreness. But if is all mental, then this could truly mean the beginning of the end for the “Doc”

    • tuberippin - May 5, 2013 at 8:51 PM

      Proof please, thank you.

      • abaird2012 - May 6, 2013 at 8:00 AM

        Up until last season the guy was a horse.

        Perfect game + post-season ho-hitter + Cy Young +, +, + = already earned his contract $$$ from the Phillies.

        If he’s able to pitch effectively again this season, it’ll just be gravy.

  3. randygnyc - May 5, 2013 at 7:38 PM

    Bogus DL.

    • tuberippin - May 5, 2013 at 9:00 PM

      You’re totally right. If it’s not a visible injury like a broken bone, it must be a fake injury.

  4. lewp - May 5, 2013 at 8:12 PM

    But on a positive note, the Phillies did sign Michael Young.

    • tuberippin - May 5, 2013 at 10:00 PM

      Gritty. Gamer. Professional hitter.

  5. dcowboyfan - May 5, 2013 at 8:18 PM

    Roy Halladay Injured = Joke

    • tuberippin - May 5, 2013 at 8:55 PM

      You’ve got it all wrong.

      Roy Halladay injured = common occurrence for a pitcher who has pitched a lot of innings in his career.

      Tony Romo attempting to hold a snap on a game-winning kick = Joke

      • lewp - May 5, 2013 at 9:29 PM

        Cowboys = 5 Super Bowls
        Eagles = 0

      • tuberippin - May 5, 2013 at 9:32 PM

        I’m not an Eagles fan, first of all. You know where assumptions do.

        Secondly, the last Cowboys title was nearly 20 years ago, and they haven’t been to the playoffs in several years.

        Lastly, this is a baseball thread on a baseball blog, so let’s talk about baseball. More specifically, let’s talk about the issue at hand in this post, rather than diverting attention away from the subject.

  6. mungman69 - May 5, 2013 at 8:34 PM

    dcowboyfan= bigger joke.

  7. sneschalmers - May 5, 2013 at 8:42 PM

    Man, lots of people commenting on how they think Halladay is faking his injury here. If you look at his history you’ll see that he’s thrown 220+ innings from 2006-2011 and led the league in complete games from 2007-2011 (42 total CGs).

    Combine that with the fact that he’s currently 36 and in his 16th year in the majors and, well, I’m not that surprised at his decline in performance and increased chance for injury. It actually makes me sad more than anything else. He’s one of the great pitchers of my generation and to see his career wind down like this is painful.

    • tuberippin - May 5, 2013 at 10:02 PM

      I’m thinking maybe people don’t realize how old Halladay is, or something. I don’t recall seeing such brash reactions to other veteran pitchers being injured…

  8. koydetmerforever - May 5, 2013 at 9:56 PM

    Ease up on the Dallas fans, those 5 super bowl rings are all they got since the last one some 20 years ago. It’s a defense mechanism they use for everything in any sport or in anything in life in general.

  9. lewp - May 5, 2013 at 10:41 PM

    @tuberippin

    I believe you were the first person to bring up football, yet you want to mention this is a baseball blog. You also failed to mention who your football team is, because your team probably doesn’t have 5 Super Bowl trophies. You also mentioned it’s been 20 years since the last Cowboys Super Bowl, but don’t mind referencing Romo’s blunder in 2007. You seem pretty hypercritical about how you argue points, but I assume that’s the way Philly fans are…it that is who you root for.

  10. mungman69 - May 5, 2013 at 10:53 PM

    Iewp; = F¥€KIN LOSER. You think that since you decided to become a cowboy fan ( probably after all 5 Super Bowls ) that makes you look like a winner. It only makes you look like a jerkoff. Get lost.

  11. lewp - May 6, 2013 at 5:57 AM

    Hey Mungman
    I was a Cowboys fan before you were cum sliding down your daddy’s leg…
    Was there since Day ONE of Cowboys in 1961.

    Just admit it ..your iggles suck…loser.

  12. thesportsguru7 - May 6, 2013 at 8:22 AM

    lewp – May 6, 2013 at 5:57 AM

    Hey Mungman
    I was a Cowboys fan before you were cum sliding down your daddy’s leg…
    Was there since Day ONE of Cowboys in 1961.

    Just admit it ..your iggles suck…loser.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    For as old as you are, your understanding of the reproductive system is awful.

  13. andyreidisthegoat - May 6, 2013 at 8:52 AM

    Stick a fork in’em. He done!

  14. mungman69 - May 6, 2013 at 9:24 AM

    Yes, I think that Halliday is done. He didn’t have anything last year before and after a stint on the disabled list and he worked hard all winter and still has nothing. Yes, I agree, stick a fork in him.

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