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HBT Daily: Verlander or Darvish?

May 6, 2013, 3:50 PM EDT

Pick your ace. I picked one. It might have me in the doghouse tonight, but I’ll deal with it.

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  1. thomas844 - May 6, 2013 at 3:53 PM

    Bud Norris

  2. gigab0t - May 6, 2013 at 4:12 PM

    JV. All day.

  3. historiophiliac - May 6, 2013 at 4:12 PM

    Well, apparently, today it’s bad to be King.

  4. paperlions - May 6, 2013 at 4:20 PM

    Jake Westbrook.

    • historiophiliac - May 6, 2013 at 4:27 PM


      • paperlions - May 6, 2013 at 4:38 PM

        I figured if I was going to make a silly choice (like a certain blogger), I may as well go all out. At least my silly choice is gritty (it is the choice it self that is gritty, not Westbrook).

      • historiophiliac - May 6, 2013 at 4:59 PM

        I see what you did there, calling yourself gritty.

      • paperlions - May 6, 2013 at 5:05 PM

        I haven’t showered lately.

  5. El Bravo - May 6, 2013 at 4:23 PM

    The King w/ Scherzer backing him up.

    • historiophiliac - May 6, 2013 at 4:26 PM

      I’m really okay with V, Scherzer, Sanchez and Fister. It’s kinda sixes whether I’d add King Felix or Darvish to the mix. lol

  6. rvnc - May 6, 2013 at 4:24 PM

    For me Kershaw is the best pitcher in baseball, and I’m a giants fan so not easy to say. Out of Verlander and Darvish it has to be JV, except when he’s pitching to Pablo Sandoval or Barry Zito…

  7. indaburg - May 6, 2013 at 4:27 PM

    Kershaw is my pick. Younger than JV, more control than Yu.

    • historiophiliac - May 6, 2013 at 4:28 PM

      /gives stink-eye

      • indaburg - May 6, 2013 at 4:30 PM

        I love me some JV, you know I do–but if I was a GM of a pro team and I could sign one of those three, I have to pick The Claw.

      • historiophiliac - May 6, 2013 at 5:00 PM

        You are in time out!

      • indaburg - May 6, 2013 at 5:15 PM

        Am I gonna get the paddle?

    • paperlions - May 6, 2013 at 4:40 PM

      What Burgie said…for me, that is an easy choice… really can’t go wrong with any of the three, but I would take Kershaw first.

      • historiophiliac - May 6, 2013 at 5:00 PM

        Did you laugh at the paper bag thing at all?

      • paperlions - May 6, 2013 at 5:05 PM

        Which time? Any time I see that….I always have to check and see if it is Fiorentino.

      • historiophiliac - May 6, 2013 at 5:08 PM

        This morning. Geez.

  8. witeman10 - May 6, 2013 at 4:51 PM

    well up to this point in the season i dont mind people saying Darvish has been better SO FAR. And i might even agree. Also he does have one more pitch in his arsenal than JV so I can see the “stuff” argument. but come on, would you really rather have Darvish on your team for this year than JV? I mean if you care about having a proven consistent starter I dont see how you would. Darvish is still learning so we’ll see how he develops, and if he can keep up the pace he is currently at for a full season. But right now, the safe money is on JV in that regard.

    Also, keep in mind that JV had his best April of his career, as he usually starts the season slow. Around mid season is when he really comes into form and starts dominating. If he does that again this year he might put up the best numbers of his career. Which, coming off two seasons where he was clearly the best pitcher in the game, would be ridiculous.

    I’m going JV. Darvish and kershaw are obviously younger so if you wanted to build a team from scratch yea maybe you go with them for the long term potential. but as for who is the best pitcher RIGHT NOW, for this season? I’m betting Mr. Verlander will have the best 2013 when it’s all said and done.

    • eightyraw - May 6, 2013 at 5:46 PM

      The NPB data counts. It cannot be dismissed. Darvish is a “proven consistent starter.”

      • thebadguyswon - May 6, 2013 at 6:48 PM

        NPB is the equivilent of Double A ball in the states. It counts, but has to be kept in perspective.

      • eightyraw - May 6, 2013 at 8:05 PM

        NPB talent level lies somewhere between AAA and second-division MLB. And yes the NPB data needs to be properly weighted. But it shouldn’t be a surprise that 2013 Yu Darvish looks more like NPB Yu Darvish than the 2012 version.

  9. proudlycanadian - May 6, 2013 at 5:30 PM

    Any love for Buchholz out there? Hello? Hello? Hello/ Never mind!

  10. cur68 - May 6, 2013 at 6:03 PM

    King Felix. Larry Bernandez is The Man

    • historiophiliac - May 6, 2013 at 7:59 PM

      There’s no crying in baseball! >:(

  11. thebadguyswon - May 6, 2013 at 6:46 PM

    Verlander. Longer track record.

  12. markofapro - May 6, 2013 at 7:14 PM


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