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Futility Watch: The Marlins are two games behind the 1962 Mets

May 29, 2013, 9:36 AM EDT

Casey Stengel

Mentioned this in ATH, but it’s worth keeping more formal tabs on this as the season progresses:

  • Record of the 1962 New York Mets through 52 games: 15-37;
  • Record of the 2013 Houston Astros through 52 games: 15-37;
  • Record of the 2013 Miami Marlins through 52 games: 13-39.

On the bright side, the Mets had losing streaks of 11 and 13 games ahead of them later in the 1962 season, so the Marlins have a chance to “catch up.”

  1. Kevin S. - May 29, 2013 at 9:43 AM


    • proudlycanadian - May 29, 2013 at 9:46 AM

      What is a typo between friends?

    • polonelmeagrejr - May 29, 2013 at 4:47 PM

      Craig deserves a Pulitzer prize for not once using the word “historically” in his story about these very bad teams. Way to go.

  2. proudlycanadian - May 29, 2013 at 9:44 AM

    “The Mets have shown me more ways to lose than I even knew existed.” Casey Stengel.

  3. sparty99 - May 29, 2013 at 9:54 AM

    ’03 Tigers were also 13-39

    • Old Gator - May 29, 2013 at 11:59 AM

      There were actually two finishes worse than the 1962 Mets’ 40-120 (.250).

      The 1916 Philadelphia Athletics, 36-117 (.235).

      The 1935 Boston Braves, 38-115 (.248).

      I suggest that once the Feesh dip below the Mutts’ rate of descent, we should also cue the Braves, and then the A’s.

      By next season, the Strange Attractor, which is now back in the orbiting repair bay for modernization, should be serviceable again. No point in rushing it back when it’s pretty clear that it would be useless anyway.

      • pauleee - May 29, 2013 at 12:18 PM

        Not so fast there! While it may find little use in regard to the Feesh, I fear the Angels will be chasing it all season long.

        //For the longest time I thought the SA was some obscure reference to the Mets.

      • sabatimus - May 29, 2013 at 1:32 PM

        I guess the finishes you mentioned depend how you define “modern”. The Cleveland Spiders had a .130 winning percentage in 1899. But the Athletics’ futility happened almost 100 years ago.

  4. mybrunoblog - May 29, 2013 at 10:02 AM

    Let’s compare the two teams just for fun.
    1962 Mets- loveable managers, living legend Casey Stengal
    2013 Marlins- um, who manages them again?
    1962 Mets- cool uniforms, honoring former New York teams. Great classic look.
    2013 Marlins- bad softball league orange and black solid jerseys.
    1962 Mets- loveable losers, Marv Throneberry, Choo Choo Coleman, a young Ed Kranepool
    2013 Marlins- Well, I’ve actually heard of Giancarlo Stanton and Juan Pierre but after them……
    1962 Mets- corny but loveable Mr. Met character is their mascot
    2013 Marlins- umm, did Billy Marlin get caught by a charter boat expedition?

    So there you have it. Not much to compare. The Marlins are lost at sea folks……

    • Francisco (FC) - May 29, 2013 at 10:24 AM

      If they are lost at sea, can Gilligan be their Mascot?

    • dluxxx - May 29, 2013 at 11:07 AM

      Hey! Hey now! Point number one I will dispute. Mike Redmond is definitely loveable. They just need a little nekid batting practice to pull them out of this slump!

    • Old Gator - May 29, 2013 at 12:01 PM

      Let’s compare owners. How does Joan Payson stack up against Scrooge McLoria? I mean, yeah, you wouldn’t have wanted to wake up next to Joan Payson on the morning after a bender. But just imagine waking….no, no, it’s too horrible to contemplate. Forget it.

  5. realgone2 - May 29, 2013 at 10:11 AM

  6. aceshigh11 - May 29, 2013 at 10:18 AM

    So…you’re telling me there’s a chance…

  7. sdelmonte - May 29, 2013 at 10:34 AM

    There is a part of me that really doesn’t want to see the Mets’ anti-record broken. It feels like “well, if we are going to be bad, let’s be historically bad and we’ll always have that!”

    But at the same time, there isn’t any owner who deserves this more. The fans don’t, the players don’t, and the sport doesn’t. But Luria has earned his lumps. (Never mind that a lot of people would say the same of the Wilpons.)

    All that said, I don’t see the record being broken. The Marlins play enough games against the Mets and a steadily disintegrating Phils to give them a few wins here and there. And since even the worst team does win 40, I figure things will break the Marlins’s way just enough to reach 50.

    Astros I am a bit less sure about. The distance between them and the rest of the West is bigger than between the Marlins and the Mets.

    Anyone want to compare these times with that Tigers club from a few years back that was so lousy? (Hard to believe how much things have changed for the Tigers since then.)

  8. stex52 - May 29, 2013 at 10:49 AM

    Until the Astros get to win 43, I will be waking up in the middle of the night in a cold sweat.

    I really don’t want them to claim that trophy. But I think their chances are excellent. Their hitting has picked up for the moment. But they have two dependable starters and the bullpen is a crapshoot. And errors, don’t talk to me about errors.

    In the end I don’t think they are quite that bad. But only time will tell.

    • historiophiliac - May 29, 2013 at 10:57 AM

      I’ve been there and know how it feels. Put your faith in the Marlins for beating you out though. I mean, if Pudge couldn’t help them…

  9. detaxelfoley - May 29, 2013 at 11:02 AM

    Articles like this start popping up every time a modern team gets off to a really bad start. It is worth pointing out that these comparisons actually make the ’62 Mets look BETTER, not worse though. The ’62 Mets were an expansion-draft team (i.e. all of the players the other teams didn’t want) and they didn’t have the benefit of starting with a per-existing squad and having a stocked minor league system to draw from. A modern team coming within a few games of the Mets record is a far worse showing than what the ’62 Mets accomplished, since the Mets were working with a much more significant handicap. It’s still fun to talk about, though.

    • Old Gator - May 29, 2013 at 2:19 PM

      I challenge your assumption that the issues pertinent to the primordial Mets amounted to a greater handicap than playing for the irremediable priapism (and his pet lithopedion) who owns the Feesh.

  10. Old Gator - May 29, 2013 at 11:52 AM

    Let’s face it, the 2013 Feesh are what would have happened if Ed Wood Jr. had written and directed Major Leagues. I could point out parallels all day, and may well do that as the season progresses – juxtaposing last night’s peccadilloes with quotes from Ed Wood films. Just imagine, for example, the Chihuahua’s famous comment that the Macondo county councilmen were idiots (“You Earthlings are stupid!!!”).

    It’s not a well kept secret that I’m working on a book about the history of the Feesh franchise. I might have just discovered my working title: Plan Nine from Montreal (© Producciones Gator Viejo 2013).

    • sabatimus - May 29, 2013 at 1:35 PM

      Plan Nine from Montreal should be about the NHL’s Les Habitants de Diving Team.

      • Old Gator - May 29, 2013 at 2:16 PM

        Ahh, take a deep breath and remember the history here. The Canadiens are still in Montreal.

      • sabatimus - May 29, 2013 at 6:44 PM

        Gator, I’m too big of a Bruins fan to do that 😀

  11. watchfullhose - May 29, 2013 at 2:29 PM

    The marlins should trade for Johnny Cueto.

    • Old Gator - May 29, 2013 at 4:54 PM

      Why? Street crime is already bad enough in Macondo.

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