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The Rays suspended jerk prospect Josh Sale

May 29, 2013, 3:30 PM EDT

Josh Sale, last seen bragging on Facebook about how good he is at demeaning women, has been suspended by the Tampa Bay Rays:

 

Not that suspensions are new to Sale. He was suspended for 50 games last season for methamphetamine.  I talked to a couple of people familiar with Sale yesterday and both said — and here I’m paraphrasing — that he was weapons-grade immature. I doubt that a PR-based suspension from his team will cure that, but at least now maybe he’ll keep his idiocy off social media.

  1. bklynbaseball - May 29, 2013 at 3:34 PM

    I believe the word you’re looking for is douchebag.

    • historiophiliac - May 29, 2013 at 3:42 PM

      I believe this is one for El Bravo.

      • manchestermiracle - May 29, 2013 at 6:12 PM

        EB prefers the term “douchenozzle.”

    • indaburg - May 29, 2013 at 3:56 PM

      Douchebags have a useful purpose. I wish people would quit insulting douchebags by associating them with morons like this inbred idiot.

    • hojo20 - May 29, 2013 at 6:52 PM

      Yet if Jay-Z or Snoop Dogg sings about it, it’s so cool.

  2. chacochicken - May 29, 2013 at 3:34 PM

    I’m sure his hometown needs a gym teacher/assistant baseball coach. Likely the best he’ll ever do assuming he isn’t incarcerated for meth for an extended period of time.

    • historiophiliac - May 29, 2013 at 3:45 PM

      Until he’s jailed for a sexual relationship with a student…

      • indaburg - May 29, 2013 at 3:58 PM

        Yeah, do we really want this POS anywhere near a child?

      • chacochicken - May 29, 2013 at 4:08 PM

        No, but that hasn’t seemed to stop them.

      • stex52 - May 29, 2013 at 4:18 PM

        Let me be a little bit of a contrarian, here, ladies. No argument that to date he is a despicable POS. But he is also a 20-year old athlete drafted right of HS into the pro’s. Likely he was the star at his HS and was told for pretty much all of his life middle school on, that he was the best and fit for worship. We do that with our star athletes.

        Your average boy out of HS is not good for much anyway. Give him a swollen ego and he can turn into a real problem. Witness our boy here. But people do grow up. Maybe, just maybe, he will get it. And he does have potential.

        I could be way wrong with this one. The meth suspension does not bode well. But I think writing off a 20-year old guy for being a POS at this particular moment may be a little premature.

      • indaburg - May 29, 2013 at 5:27 PM

        I respectfully disagree, stex. He assaulted someone then bragged about it. He not only bragged about that, he boasted about making her cry. That kind of callousness towards a fellow human is sociopathic. That’s not just stud athlete bragging. Sale is a stupid socipath.

        This is behavior we have tolerated far too long in star athletes simply because they can throw a ball really far or hit the ball well. I have nothing against a ball player going to a strip club, and behaving like a decent human being–an admirer of the female human form expressing itself in dance in various states of undress. But his behavior was callous and cruel.

        I love sports, but we have to draw the line somewhere.

        If you had a daughter, would you want him dating her? I will not be a devil’s advocate for him. I am a very forgiving person, and I believe in second chances, but sociopaths are notoriously resistant to change. Good luck with this one.

      • bigharold - May 29, 2013 at 6:45 PM

        “I will not be a devil’s advocate for him.”

        I don’t know that Stex was advocating for him so much as he was point out the obvious, .. he’s a 20 year old kid and you don’t write him off so easily.

        I understand that he’s been provided special treatment that has in effect retarded his growth towards a well rounded human being. And, you may be right, .. he might be headed the same way as Matt Bush but lets not be in a rush to get him there. Regardless of his stature as a professional athlete or perhaps even more so because of it he will be held accountable for his actions in life. The question is how quickly he learns that and will it be too late for him to salvage his plying career, .. not to mention his life.

        Every “normal” 20 year old male I’ve ever been around was fairly certain that they were immortal so boys behaving poorly is not unusual or surprising. God forbid if the plethora of mobile cameras and social media existed when I was in may early 20s because I did some profoundly stupid things. So far what I’ve read about this kid is that he’s at least an over baring ass. But at 20 there is still time for change.

      • historiophiliac - May 29, 2013 at 6:51 PM

        I don’t think anyone said lock him away and throw away the key or that he couldn’t change. I think, though, that he won’t change unless he has to pay the piper in a serious way — which I’m hoping this suspension helps with (although, I’m not overly optimistic since he’s been suspended before). The point is not to just say “Oh, boys will be boys” and let it continue. There’s nothing wrong with letting him pay the consequences.

    • chuckleberry1974 - May 29, 2013 at 6:09 PM

      He’d most likely need a college degree and have passed some certification exams first :)

  3. redbirdfan81 - May 29, 2013 at 3:36 PM

    This is actually a toughie. If he was suspended for just expressing an opinion, his 1st amendment right, then that’s what makes it hard. Otherwise, if he expresses it as himself, not a member of any team or organization, then his right is infringed upon. As well at the Rays handle prospects, I’ll defer to their judgement.

    • The Dangerous Mabry - May 29, 2013 at 3:43 PM

      The first amendment doesn’t protect you from employer discipline. It protects you from the government.

      • neoshweaty - May 29, 2013 at 3:47 PM

        Crazy how many people think that the first amendment means you can say anything you want and can expect no repercussions from anyone anywhere.

      • brewcrewfan54 - May 30, 2013 at 12:25 AM

        It’s amazing how many people don’t understand the first ammendment before they spout off about it.

    • danaking - May 29, 2013 at 3:44 PM

      I agree in principle, but if he is posting in Facebook as a member of the Rays organization, he has to accept the fact his comments and action reflect on the, and they have a right to effect consequences. I’m pretty tame on facebook, but I have removed all reference to my employer for that reason, just to avoid blow back. He may be well known enough that even without a “Employed By Tampa Bay Rays” is not necessary for folks to know who he is. If so, that’s part of the additional responsibility that goes with the potential fame and fortune baseball may provide. He can be as much of a douche as he wants after he retires.

    • zemensd - May 29, 2013 at 3:47 PM

      The first amendment prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances. It has nothing to do with a private employers sanction of a private employee.

    • number42is1 - May 29, 2013 at 3:47 PM

      I don’t think that it is about his Freedom of Speech but more about bragging about it on Twitter and “representing” the Rays organization.

    • indaburg - May 29, 2013 at 4:05 PM

      Suspension? I want him off the team.

      ” Amendment I

      Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

      Note that nowhere does it say your employer cannot discipline you or terminate you for saying or doing stupid things. They are well within their rights.

    • rcali - May 29, 2013 at 4:05 PM

      As long as you say something that everyone else agrees with, your fine.

      • lmoneyfresh - May 29, 2013 at 6:37 PM

        This isn’t about saying something people disagree with. This is about the fact that he represents an organization and his irresponsible actions (and bragging that followed) give them a black eye as much as it makes him look like an idiot.

    • sabatimus - May 29, 2013 at 4:31 PM

      From what I’ve seen, most internet commenters really, REALLY need a lesson on what the First Amendment actually governs.

      • 18thstreet - May 29, 2013 at 4:33 PM

        Why do you hate America?

      • tuberippin - May 29, 2013 at 5:04 PM

        ^He hates America so much that he stopped to actually read the Constitution and its Amendments.

        FREEDOM HATER!!1!

      • sabatimus - May 29, 2013 at 6:46 PM

        Thanks tuber, that made me laugh :)

      • raysfan1 - May 29, 2013 at 7:21 PM

        I think 18thstreet is kidding.

  4. thebadguyswon - May 29, 2013 at 3:40 PM

    “Conduct detrimental to the organization”

    Ok…..what about Josh Lueke?

    • geoknows - May 29, 2013 at 3:45 PM

      That was two organizations ago, when he was with the Rangers. You can, of course, question why another the Rays would willingly take him on. You could also say the same of Matt Bush.

    • paperlions - May 29, 2013 at 4:01 PM

      He hasn’t been caught rapeing anyone since the Rays acquired him, so….I guess he’s in the clear.

      • thebadguyswon - May 29, 2013 at 4:48 PM

        LOL

      • indaburg - May 29, 2013 at 5:29 PM

        I’m watching him 24-7. He knows what will happen to him if he steps out of line.

  5. bendover09 - May 29, 2013 at 3:40 PM

    This smells like another Josh Hamilton. Oh well, maybe the Rangers can cash in again on another gem if released or traded . Just keep on stackin’ Daniels.

    • geoknows - May 29, 2013 at 3:46 PM

      Nobody thinks Josh Sale compares in any way to Josh Hamilton on the baseball field.

      • lmoneyfresh - May 29, 2013 at 6:38 PM

        I’m a ranger fan and even I think that was a stupid comment.

  6. normcash - May 29, 2013 at 3:54 PM

    Amazing how many athletes’ emotional growth seems to stop in junior high school…
    this guy probably thinks farting is the height of humor…

    • paperlions - May 29, 2013 at 4:04 PM

      That’s completely unfair. I know plenty of unathletic people whose emotional growth ceased around junior high.

      • historiophiliac - May 29, 2013 at 4:16 PM

        Stop bragging.

      • paperlions - May 29, 2013 at 4:17 PM

        You ain’t the boss of me!

      • historiophiliac - May 29, 2013 at 4:18 PM

        Oh really….

    • stlouis1baseball - May 29, 2013 at 4:33 PM

      Wait! Hold. The. Phone.
      Are you trying to tell me farting is NOT funny?

      • lukescottsbedsidemanner - May 29, 2013 at 5:45 PM

        It is SO funny.

  7. sabatimus - May 29, 2013 at 4:32 PM

    Somehow I keep envisioning Sale in a Marlins’ uniform..

    • indaburg - May 29, 2013 at 5:31 PM

      I keep envisioning him in an orange uniform. California Penal.

      • historiophiliac - May 29, 2013 at 7:02 PM

        Or, in pink in Sheriff Joe’s tent city?

  8. 13arod - May 29, 2013 at 4:47 PM

    thebadguyswon lueke already served his suspension last year

  9. xpensivewinos - May 29, 2013 at 4:54 PM

    I don’t buy that whole “worshipped his whole life so he feels entitled” stuff.

    Was he raised by wolves? Decent parenting should curb that type of behavior. If he’s a douche, he’s a douche around the house and good parents would make sure their kid isn’t a douche, regardless of how good he may be at hitting a ball with a stick.

    More often than not, a douche kid is the offspring of douche parents.

    • yahmule - May 29, 2013 at 7:33 PM

      Under that scenario, it should be no surprise he turned out like this.

  10. realgone2 - May 29, 2013 at 4:55 PM

    Ahhhhhh….the high and mighty brigade.

  11. rockthered1286 - May 29, 2013 at 4:56 PM

    I think somebody needs to send Anna Benson down to teach this kid a lesson… strippers have souls too ya jackass.

  12. ckhoss29 - May 29, 2013 at 5:09 PM

    Woah woah chacochicken, I wish people wouldn’t act like teaching is an easy profession. Whether it be PE or science. Spend a day In a school in charge of 30+ students at a time, then get back to me.

  13. aceshigh11 - May 29, 2013 at 5:20 PM

    Between Sale and Lueke, the Rays are quickly becoming the GOP of MLB.

    Fitting they’re down in Floriderp, the sclerotic, eternally impotent member hanging off the lower 48.

    • stlouis1baseball - May 30, 2013 at 9:40 AM

      With your endless GOP bullshit you are starting to sound like a broken record/skipping CD.
      Give it a rest dude. With what your house has gotten itself into…I would think you would be smart enough to cease with the stone throwing.

  14. lukescottsbedsidemanner - May 29, 2013 at 5:48 PM

    Good. This jackass needs to learn how to act.

    1) Pig Spears and Birthirism: OK with MLB

    2) Making MLB look bad: Not Ok with MLB

    (you’d think the two things would be the same, but evidently not)

    • historiophiliac - May 29, 2013 at 7:09 PM

      Well, one is about MLB and the other is about a guy who inspires internet commenters who go around staring at Tampans. (That sounds wrong. Tampians? Tampettes? Hrm.)

      • lukescottsbedsidemanner - May 30, 2013 at 1:04 AM

        I call them “Temptsters”. “Tampa Girl Temptsters”. I signed for one yesterday. I can’t wait till they deliver her to my house.

        /staring

      • historiophiliac - May 30, 2013 at 7:51 AM

        You’re not right.

  15. huffdaddyco - May 29, 2013 at 5:52 PM

    You know, realistically, I think we can stop calling Sale a jerk prospect. He has to be a full-fledged Major League starting jerk by now.

  16. genericcommenter - May 29, 2013 at 6:09 PM

    This guy can’t be much of a prospect. He was drafted out of high school in the 1st, but he didn’t see any game action until he was 20. He showed a little bit of power and patience at A, I guess. Now he’s 3 years removed from the draft, going to be 22, and has played 74 games at Single A, and his most notable accomplishment is being an entitled douche bag.

    He got $1.6 million, too.

    • historiophiliac - May 29, 2013 at 7:27 PM

      It seems like even Ryan Lochte would know better what to do.

      • stlouis1baseball - May 30, 2013 at 9:42 AM

        Ryan Lochte always knows what to do. He’s just wrong sometimes.

  17. gbpxlvi - May 29, 2013 at 7:01 PM

    It would be fine if he had red hair, then he could just say he has no soul

  18. jlinatl - May 29, 2013 at 10:22 PM

    In another 2 years he will have pissed away his bonus and wish he had that change back!

  19. erin011 - May 30, 2013 at 1:05 AM

    Joshua is actually a friend of mine since we were sophomores in high school from our hometown in Washington, and I have to tell you all, he really is NOT as bad of a person as you’re all making him out to be. I’m not here to tell you all what he did wasn’t wrong by using the methempetamines and throwing the money at the stripper and writing about it on facebook, but you’re all basically giving a guy who is straight out of high school and who was 18 years old a one million dollar signing contract, have him live 3,000 miles away from our state and expecting him to act like a real mature adult when he is all on his own and at the influence of hundreds of other idiotic baseball players around him who act the same way, just didn’t get caught. He isn’t a mature adult yet, clearly. He acts like how any kid would act, he just has more going for him than normal people because he can actually be somebody and he is ruining it for himself. You’re all trashing on him when nobody scolds a rapper in music videos and songs talking and portraying girls and strippers about how they are hoes about how slutty they are and women DO THAT TO THEMSELVES TOO. He will learn and grow from this, I whole heartedly believe that. When he was home, he was able to hang out and spend time with me supporting me at my college basketball games and every time we would go out to a bar together he was respectful to everyone and would always offer to pay for me and has been very polite to me. You’re all looking at him and agreeing with each other by his mistakes, and making crazy judgments. This topic of him is ridiculous because none of you have actually sat down and had a real conversation with him. I know his family, I know his dad. Stop making it worse for him by wasting your time blogging about someone you really don’t KNOW. He is in the spot light and he has a ton of people ready to tear him down and please do NOT make it worse for my friend by making these rational comments when clearly he knows he is in the wrong and what he did was stupid. Please just let him live and learn, he is really a kind hearted person, he isn’t that douchebag everyone is making him out to be. Please, forgive him and move on.

    • louhudson23 - May 30, 2013 at 4:01 AM

      The comments are not the problem,his behaviour is ….. He has all the time in the world to get his shit together,and if you are correct,then he will be fine…..Until then,he catches hell for his idiocy…..And rappers are called on their misogyny all the time and Sale is not doing what any kid would do…..thinking that making a woman cry is funny or worth bragging about is not “how any kid would act”…..It is nice that he has a friend who will stick up for him,but his being called on his behaviour is what he needs…if he knows what he did was wrong,it is almost certainly because someone(most everyone)gave him hell about it……And those that never change are generally surrounded by “friends” who feed the ego and ignore the reality….so,these comments are the reality…..learn from it,use it,and move on or ignore it…..If he doesn’t like the reaction,stop doing it….

      • erin011 - May 30, 2013 at 4:29 AM

        Yet, I guarantee you so many people in this world still would go crazy over guys like Jay Z and Kanye West even though they degrade women in their songs and music videos and they are still highly regarded in our society by adoring fans. I also guarantee he will learn and move on. He shouldn’t have social media point blank. Especially since everyone is going to be keeping tabs on him to catch the “next mistake” they hope he makes. I know how he acted was wrong I’m not saying what he did was OK, I just wish all these crazy assumptions about him and how badly his parents raised him would stop. I know it won’t but I wish it would.

  20. sandrafluke2012 - May 30, 2013 at 1:18 AM

    Going to quote Chris Rock here. “You have failed as a father if your daughter ends up on the pole”

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