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Looks like the Brewers are rebuilding

Jun 4, 2013, 1:00 PM EDT

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The Brewers aren’t good and it doesn’t seem like additions such as Juan Francisco and the eventual return of Corey Hart will make much of a difference. Which led Brewers GM Doug Melvin admitted to Michael Hunt of the Journal-Sentinel that it’s time to rebuild:

While not prepared to concede the division to the Cardinals and the Reds with two-thirds of the season to play, general manager Doug Melvin gave a general idea of the direction Monday when he told me, “If we make any more trades this year, it’s going to be for two or three years from now instead of now.

“I’m not going to be trading any young players to win games.”

Of course there aren’t a lot of old players worth anything to trade for young players either.  Still, this sounds like the right approach for a Brewers team with no real chance to compete with the Cardinals, Reds or the Pirates. And who are behind the Cubs when it comes to rebuilding.

  1. natslady - Jun 4, 2013 at 1:06 PM

    Got anything for the Nats? We could use a rental starter (two down is too many) and maybe an outfielder. Don’t have much in the way of prospects to offer, but Uncle Teddy could open his checkbook.

    • heyblueyoustink - Jun 4, 2013 at 1:12 PM

      “Got anything for the Nats?”

      Does utter disdain count?

    • Chip Caray's Eyebrows - Jun 4, 2013 at 4:42 PM

      • heyblueyoustink - Jun 4, 2013 at 6:01 PM


  2. therealbigben - Jun 4, 2013 at 1:21 PM

    Weeks, Hart and Aoki all come off the books after this season. If Hart gets healthy they will probably trade him because he has shown no potential to stay healthy for 150 games. Logan Schafer can take Aoki’s spot, so he should be traded too. Since Rickie Weeks can be replaced by a scarecrow I see him being DFA’d sometime in August.

    Last year there was talk of trading Aramis just months after he signed his deal. Could be interesting to see if either he or Loshe would be available this July.

    Over/Under 8 years til the Crew is in the playoffs again. Farm system is pretty barren of prospects and we just gave up our first rounder to sign Loshe. Dumbbbb

    • brewcrewfan54 - Jun 4, 2013 at 3:37 PM

      Rickie Weeks is under contract for $13 million next season. No way he gets DFA’d.

  3. uwsptke - Jun 4, 2013 at 1:49 PM

    Incorrect on Weeks and Aoki. Weeks still has at least two more years on his contract.

    Aoki, despite being signed as an international free agent, still has his rights owned by Milwaukee for four more years. He’s probably one of their most valuable trading chips.

    • therealbigben - Jun 4, 2013 at 3:38 PM

      I stand corrected. Unfortunately we have a year remaining on Weeks and a year on Aoki. Next time I’ll look it up instead of going off of memory. Still Wouldn’t be surprised to see 2/3 dealt… probably not Weeks tho cuz he’s worthless.

      • uwsptke - Jun 5, 2013 at 9:27 AM

        I looked up the specifics on Weeks so we’re all on the same page.

        Weeks has $11 mil due to him in 2014, but he also has a vesting option for 2015 worth $11.5 mil. This option voids under two circumstances: 1) He doesn’t reach 600 plate appearances in 2014, or 2) He doesn’t reach a combined 1,200 plate appearances between 2013-14. It would seem pretty easy to voide the last year if you essentially bench him next year, but I’m not sure if that’s allowable since it was probably meant to protect the team in case of injury, not crappy performance.

        And as I mentioned before, Aoki has four more years after this under team control. He’s 31, so he’s basically at his peak. He’s the rare left handed hitter that has no problems facing left handed pitching (he actually hits for a higher average, albeit a smaller sample size to go off of). If you’re rebuilding, he’s the guy to go if you get an offer you like. There’s no sense in hanging on to him since he’ll be on the decline by the time the team is competitive again, and while he’s “well liked” among the fan base (like Ramirez and to a much lesser extent Hart), there wouldn’t be a massive uproar about trading him. If they have to deal Gallardo, I could see most fans of the franchise basically giving up on the team for a few years again, so he’s probably the least likely trading chip to be moved.

  4. 13arod - Jun 4, 2013 at 2:38 PM

    i thought i heard that they are to trade armias rameriez

  5. michaeljacksonisback - Jun 4, 2013 at 3:31 PM

    Man, I’m glad cardinal nation doesn’t have to put up with this crap! See this is Karma for tony mush or whoever he was, running that mouth on twitter. What happened? The booers got smashed in the NLCS and the Red birds got another championship! #factoryofsadness you know you’re team sucks when the cubs are the better team!

    • brewcrewfan54 - Jun 4, 2013 at 3:38 PM

      Karma? Give me a break.

    • padraighansen - Jun 4, 2013 at 4:17 PM

      You have an organization full of douchebags, and, unfortunately, it was attitude fostered by LaRussa when he ran things. And then there’s “fans” like you, too much of coward to post with your real name, who confuse your own self worth with that of your favorite team.

      There’s a word for that: pathetic.

    • Chip Caray's Eyebrows - Jun 4, 2013 at 4:35 PM

      Jesus. Cardinals fans really are the worst.

    • chill1184 - Jun 4, 2013 at 9:22 PM

      You do realize that Karma requires for the Brewers having to do something in order to deserve it right?

  6. barkleyblows - Jun 4, 2013 at 3:46 PM

    That’s the Brewers we know!!!! Back to reality for another 30 years.

  7. brewcrewfan54 - Jun 4, 2013 at 3:48 PM

    The Brewers biggest problem is they can’t develop pitching. I don’t know what the problem is, what they are teaching in the minors or just not being good enough at evaluating the amateur talent. Gallardo has been the best starter they’ve brought up since Sheets and Yo is far to inconsistent to be considered an ace. I hate the Cardinals but I wish the Brewers could do what they do when it comes to always having good young pitching to replace the guys getting to free agency.

    • mjames1229 - Jun 4, 2013 at 5:33 PM

      And Cal Eldred before Sheets.

      Unless you count Mike Buddie, Alan Leverault, Sid Roberson, Kyle Peterson…

      • brewcrewfan54 - Jun 4, 2013 at 6:41 PM

        Wow, didn’t even think back that far but you’re right. Very disapointing.

      • muskyhunter2542 - Jun 5, 2013 at 10:52 AM

        Don’t forget Jeff D’Amico, Kelly Wunsch, Joe Wagner, Kyle Peterson, J. M. Gold, Mike Jones, and of course Dylan Covey whom never even signed with the team.

        Great names there!!!

    • uwsptke - Jun 5, 2013 at 9:38 AM

      That’s been the Brewers in a nutshell over the past 20 or 30 years. They haven’t developed enough pitching over that time span to even fill out one pitching staff. So what do they have to do? Trade prospects for pitchers, time and time again. They completely emptied the farm system to get Greinke and Marcum for two years, and drafted college pitching (and whiffed big time) because they wanted to get more arms to the big league club faster, rather than target higher-upside high school arms. The plan over the past few years has been a complete mess. I think they worry too much about trying to stay moderately competitive to fill the stadium, rather than come to realization that they need to start a long overdue rebuild.

  8. randygnyc - Jun 4, 2013 at 5:41 PM

    Brewcrew- developing pitching is the holy grail of baseball. If it was easy, the cubs would have at least 1 WS win. The only team in baseball that consistently farms good arms is the rays. I think the cards just got lucky a bunch of prospects are panning out. Percentages say its an aberration.

    • spudchukar - Jun 4, 2013 at 5:58 PM

      You have lost all credibility. Spewing ignorance and insignificant drivel. Your comments are a waste of space.

    • brewcrewfan54 - Jun 4, 2013 at 6:38 PM

      The Brewers still need to do better than 1 good pitcher every 10 years. No matter what way you want to spin it the Brewers have done very poorly when it comes to drafting good to even decent starting pitchers. They’ve had several guys who were snakebit by injuries but whatever way ya want to look at it they haven’t got it done.

    • brewcrewfan54 - Jun 4, 2013 at 6:42 PM

      And you’re right Randy it isn’t easy but the Crew has got to be better.

  9. spudchukar - Jun 4, 2013 at 5:52 PM

    As a Cards fan I happen to believe the Brewers are a much more formidable team than their record shows. They will be better in the second half. Probably not strong enough to make the play-offs, but their offensive core rivals St. Louis and Cincinnati.

    They are more talented than they have played. Ramirez will probably be moved, but I would be surprised to see either Weeks or Hart in another uniform.

    To be looking up to the Cubs is an embarrassment. Play better.

  10. forsch31 - Jun 4, 2013 at 7:56 PM

    Really thought the Brewers were going to be a competitive team in the division this year, given the run they had toward the end of last season. Thought the Reds and Cardinals would compete for the top of the division, and the Pirates and Brewers would be just behind.

    Never expected a fall this fast.

    • muskyhunter2542 - Jun 5, 2013 at 10:55 AM

      I never saw this coming either. 2013 is one of the most disappointing seasons in my 38 years.

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