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Mets acquire Eric Young Jr. from Rockies for Collin McHugh

Jun 19, 2013, 10:15 AM EDT

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It seemed likely that Colorado could find a taker for Eric Young Jr. after designating him for assignment last week and sure enough the Rockies traded the utility man to the Mets for right-hander Collin McHugh.

Young is far from an impact player, but as a switch-hitter with defensive versatility and blazing speed he’s plenty useful in a bench role and may even get a look in center field for the Mets.

McHugh has struggled in brief stints with the Mets and at 26 years old doesn’t have much upside, but he’s got a pretty solid track record in the minors and could be a decent back-of-the-rotation starter at some point. For now the Rockies have optioned him to Double-A, where McHugh has a 2.68 ERA in 168 career innings.

  1. baseballici0us - Jun 19, 2013 at 10:20 AM

    I completely disagree. EY Jr. is absolutely an impact player he just never got a chance to be an everyday-player in Colorado. It may not right the ship for the Mets but it will be fun to see him play more often.

    • paperlions - Jun 19, 2013 at 12:32 PM

      100% Correct. Aaron should have specified that he is not a positive impact player. With a career wRC+ of 74 and a career WAR of -0.1, he’s been impactful alright.

      • baseballici0us - Jun 19, 2013 at 1:40 PM

        Paperlions, why are you trying to ‘Dustin-Ackley’ EY Jr.? :-)

      • paperlions - Jun 19, 2013 at 1:51 PM

        Is EY Jr. also saber-sensitive? Shit, I didn’t know. I’ll stay clear of NY, just to be safe.

      • baseballici0us - Jun 19, 2013 at 2:05 PM

        Jokes aside though, WAR is a stupid, unmeasurable statistic with too many uncontrollable factors.

        And wRC/wRC+ are two statistics that depend on other people, much like the ‘W’ Not to mention that it consists of the league’s average wOBA as part of its formula…..The biggest flaw with that? One player has the same exact statistics for two years in a row but wRC+ may be 135 one year (great according to fangraphs) but it may be 80 the second year, which is below average – all because the formula for wRC and wRC+ involves the use of lgwOBA (League’s weight on-base average).

        Those stats are both directly affected by what the leagues does on average. So with the same offensive stat line two years in a row, you may be an MVP one year and a bust the next.

      • paperlions - Jun 19, 2013 at 2:10 PM

        That is just full of fail.

        Of course a metric that is standardized to league average depends on what other people do…which, if course, is necessary to understand what if the performance was any good or not. Failing to account for context is just failing.

      • paperlions - Jun 19, 2013 at 2:10 PM

        ….and by any measure, EY is horrible at baseball.

      • baseballici0us - Jun 19, 2013 at 2:08 PM

        Hahaha…I dunno man, I’m pretty sure we can play 6 degrees of separation with Eric Wedge, Dustin Ackley, and EY Jr.

      • baseballici0us - Jun 19, 2013 at 2:20 PM

        I think you missed my point (in all that blabber). Hypothetically speaking someone has the following stat line one year:

        1. .307 avg. – 98 runs – 30 hr – 105 RBI

        Let’s just assume that equates to a wRC+ of 125 (pretty good).

        In year 2. .307 avg. – 102 runs – 32 hr – 103 RBI

        There is a possibility for the wRC+ for that year to be 80, right? That’s 20 points below average.

        Even though they are pretty good stats (on any year) that player’s wRC+ is directly affected by what the league does as a whole.

        It may be a good stat for measuring where you stand compared to the rest of the league but it is not a good stat for determining whether someone is a good or bad baseball player.

      • paperlions - Jun 19, 2013 at 2:23 PM

        I think you are missing the point. If the offensive environment change so drastically from one year to the next, then the quality of the stats necessarily changes as well. Below average is below average. Period. If a guy hits .400, but league average is .500, then hitting .400 is NOT good…even if it would have been considered fantastic in a different hitting environment.

        Hitting 30 home runs in the 1910s would have been a tremendous amount, more than most entire teams would hit. Hitting 30 HRs in 1996 was not tremendous. Without context, the numbers themselves mean nothing.

      • baseballici0us - Jun 19, 2013 at 2:25 PM

        “….and by any measure, EY is horrible at baseball.”

        How…very…dare…you?

      • baseballici0us - Jun 19, 2013 at 2:38 PM

        I may be leaning to conceding here…I will hate you for that

      • baseballici0us - Jun 27, 2013 at 10:02 AM

        I know it’s only 7 games but EY Jr. is doing ok for the Mets so far.

      • paperlions - Jun 27, 2013 at 10:05 AM

        And?

        Anyone capable of being on ML club can do okay over a short period. Freddy Garcia was fine for a month before things fell apart. Betancourt was on fire for a couple of weeks and has been horrible since, Vernon Wells was good for a month before he turned back into Vernon Wells.

        There are years of data showing that EY isn’t a good MLB player, which doesn’t mean he can’t have a good run for a few weeks and doesn’t mean that an opinion on his ability should change based on a SSS.

      • baseballici0us - Oct 9, 2013 at 1:21 PM

        Alright, paperlions…end of the year review here for EY Jr. I think our little battle ended on a draw. He had a terrible BA and OBP but he stole A LOT of bases and would’ve had a better runs total had he had someone behind him to drive him in (he was David Wright-less for a while there).

        Above avg. defense I would say.

        on a quick note, every walk or single he got was almost an automatic double – he was always a sure bet to at least try and steal 2nd.

      • paperlions - Oct 9, 2013 at 1:27 PM

        :-)

  2. specialkindofstupid - Jun 19, 2013 at 10:37 AM

    Rick Ankiel becomes available, Mets grab him (though later release him). Eric Young Jr. becomes available, Mets grab him. I’m beginning to see a pattern.

    If only the Phillies would release their death grip on Delmon Young…

    • flamethrower101 - Jun 19, 2013 at 11:28 AM

      If only the Phillies would release their death grip on Ruben Amaro Jr.

  3. plmathfoto - Jun 19, 2013 at 10:47 AM

    The Mets have had the worst outfield and worst leadoff hitters in mlb, and if not the worst certainly close in both categories. Can’t imagine a better opportunity for Young. Also they’ve been shifting Murphy from second to first base and back after sending Ike Davis down, trying things out, probably best that they finally are trying Duda at first base as he’s still a butcher in the outfield. Still EY could fit as an outfielder or second baseman and certainly as a leadoff hitter and should get a shot. Let’s see if he can handle it, certainly hope so. Funny thing is, I didn’t find out about this until a guy in one of my roto leagues picked up EY and it said Mets.

    • neoshweaty - Jun 19, 2013 at 12:55 PM

      At this point, the Mets should just keep trying people out and see if the majority of the team is worth keeping around in the long term. If EY can play well out of a bench role, great. If he doesn’t, the mets can just cut bait and move on to the next retread. Someone has to be out there that is better than some of the players that have been taking hacks at the plate this season.

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