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Quote of the Day: Jonathan Papelbon

Jun 25, 2013, 8:52 AM EDT

Jonathan Papelbon

Hey Jonathan Papelbon! You just came into a 3-0 game in the ninth, blew the save and then watched as your team lost in extras. Tell us about this one:

“Shit happens.”

Really, that’s what he said. It could be a team motto for this year’s Phillies, I suppose.

The Phillies, by the way, have the worst bullpen ERA in the majors.

  1. heyblueyoustink - Jun 25, 2013 at 9:01 AM

    Big deal. He was just quoting Forest Hump.

    • heyblueyoustink - Jun 25, 2013 at 11:30 AM

      I guess you’re not fans of Indiana Bones, either.

  2. 161andriver - Jun 25, 2013 at 9:02 AM

    You know, it might not have been the most dignified way of saying it, but it’s the right attitude for a closer to have. It’s the general idea of what Mariano Rivera says after every blown save. He’s basically saying there’s no use worrying about it now, on to the next one.

    • skeleteeth - Jun 25, 2013 at 9:14 AM

      Only problem being him taking issue publicly with inconsistency of his fielders after he’s blown 4 of last 5 save chances. I would prefer a little more accountability from my closer but fortunately, he’s no longer my closer. Shit happens to someone else.

      • paperlions - Jun 25, 2013 at 9:20 AM

        Funny enough, the game was tied when his “catcher” failed to catch a low change up that was right down the middle of the plate. While it is true that Ruiz set up off the outside of the plate, he’s got to do more than waive at that one with the tying run on 3rd.

        I am not saying Papelbon doesn’t deserve blame, but he isn’t the only one.

      • Jonny 5 - Jun 25, 2013 at 9:40 AM

        The score was 3-0 with 2 men on. He first gave up a 2 run single. Then HBP put a man on. That man scores when there is a passed ball. It looked like it was low AND inside to me, while Ruiz was setting up outside. Papelbon should take the blame on this imo. That ball wasn’t in the dirt, but it was very close and not in it’s spot. I was watching, it didn’t look “right down the middle” to me. Eyes can be wrong though. What’s with you typing “catcher” ? Trying to insinuate Ruiz is not a good catcher?

      • paperlions - Jun 25, 2013 at 10:14 AM

        Go to MLB.com and watch the highlights. The ball is right down the middle of the plate and it actually fades toward Ruiz after crossing the plate, hitting the dirt in front of Ruiz’s foot, which never moved.

        http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2013_06_24_phimlb_sdnmlb_1&mode=video

        Somewhat obviously, I typed “catcher” because he didn’t.

  3. Francisco (FC) - Jun 25, 2013 at 9:13 AM

    And I think most sabre metrically inclined folks would agree leaving Lee in was fine. With a 3-0 lead you win the game 97%+ of the time. Once he had 2nd and 3rd, no outs THIS is the high leverage situation you bring in your fireman to handle.

    The man just didn’t handle it.

    • eightyraw - Jun 25, 2013 at 4:33 PM

      I have to disagree with you here. The decision to let Lee hit with a runner in scoring position and then pitch into the 9th despite better options available (because of the multiple times thru the order penalty) was just stupid. It is to be expected considering the involved parties, but that doesn’t make it correct, much less “fine”.

      • Francisco (FC) - Jun 26, 2013 at 10:22 AM

        All I can say is that with a 3-0 lead you win 97%+ of the time. Let me put it this way, you would feel so strongly if you Lee had pitched the shutout and gotten a 1-2-3 inning out of it? But that’s ok, we don’t all have to be of like minds, I respect and appreciate that pinch hitting for Lee was certainly an option and not a bad one.

      • eightyraw - Jun 26, 2013 at 2:40 PM

        I would feel the same way if Lee pitched a shutout since I am discussing process, not outcome. CG are fun to watch and root for, but letting a starter begin the ninth instead of bringing in an elite reliever is poor strategy.

  4. stoutfiles - Jun 25, 2013 at 9:37 AM

    Translation: “I’m Jonathan Papelbon. I have millions of dollars in the bank, two WS rings, and just blew a save on a team that has no playoff hopes. Shit happens. If they want to dump me, half the teams in the league would love to have me. I don’t have to pretend to care.”

    • albertmn - Jun 25, 2013 at 10:52 AM

      Technically, you are correct. If the Phillies cut him outright and were on the hook for his salary and he were willing to take less money elsewhere, you may have quite a few takers. But, that isn’t going to happen, so it is a moot point. So, with his current contract, the Phillies will be lucky to find a trade partner and may still have to pay a bit of his contract and/or not get much in return. Other than the Tigers, who need any and all bullpen help, I can’t think of any other team off the top of my head that would be clamoring to trade for him. And, I don’t even know if the Tigers would be willing to eat all of his contract.

  5. nygf - Jun 25, 2013 at 9:40 AM

    From the zombie flick “Land of the Dead” following a failed mission:

    Charlie: Shit happens, right?
    Riley: Only if you let it, Charlie.

  6. stlouis1baseball - Jun 25, 2013 at 9:41 AM

    Quick (albeit un-scientific) poll:
    With a show of hands (via thumbs)…
    Who watched the Stanley Cup finals? Any of it…live. 1 minute…2 minutes…5 hours.
    Has to have been live. Highlights don’t count. Thumbs up = Yes. Thumbs down = No.
    I will start with a thumbs up (watched the last period last night).

    • DelawarePhilliesFan - Jun 25, 2013 at 10:03 AM

      Not a shot at hockey – but I did not realize the finals had started until I saw Chicago won

    • historiophiliac - Jun 25, 2013 at 10:13 AM

      For reals?

      • stlouis1baseball - Jun 25, 2013 at 11:44 AM

        Hell yes I am being for reals. I am curious about the number of people who watched it.
        I saw that last period…and it was un-real. 1:20 on the clock w/ Boston up 2-1.
        One minute and twenty seconds later and it was Chicago 3-2. Game over. Wow.
        Based upon the early returns it appears there were 16 of our HBT brethren who also watched at least part of the Finals versus 24 who didn’t. Kind of surprising really.
        I expected there to be way more thumbs down. But it’s still early…and it’s a less than quality poll.

      • historiophiliac - Jun 25, 2013 at 12:58 PM

        I’m pretty sure there’s a blog you can talk about hockey on.

      • stlouis1baseball - Jun 25, 2013 at 1:04 PM

        I am pretty sure you will get over it. Not a hockey fan. But the last period was exciting.
        And quite frankly…the poll results would have been incredibly skewed had I posed the question on the “other blog.” Sorta’ like asking people on Motorsports talk if they like motorsports.
        “Why yes…Mr. Obvious. I do like Motorsports.”

      • historiophiliac - Jun 25, 2013 at 1:04 PM

        Have a nice day.

      • stlouis1baseball - Jun 25, 2013 at 1:08 PM

        You as well Philiac!
        Side note…gonna be tough.
        I bruised my ribs Sunday afternoon “showing” the girls how to tackle the slip n slide.
        Went all Pete Rose on them…got way too high…and slid my ass all the way down and through that thing. Started out sore on Sunday evening and has gotten progressively worse. Yeah….Ribs…they are sort of important.

      • nothanksimdriving123 - Jun 25, 2013 at 4:12 PM

        st.lou, toughen up pal, Bergeron played through broken ribs.

    • yahmule - Jun 25, 2013 at 10:30 AM

      I watched a bit. The ending was very exciting, and as an added bonus, utterly heart-wrenching for Boston fans.

    • mybrunoblog - Jun 25, 2013 at 10:41 AM

      I didnt even know the hockey game was on. If I knew it was an elimination game I may have watched the last period but Hockey is like Alaska to me. It seems pretty cool and a there is a core group of people who love it but I don’t have much interest in going there.

      • yahmule - Jun 25, 2013 at 11:31 AM

        Hockey is way more fun live.

        Alaska is on our short list. Many pictures will be snapped and much salmon will be eaten.

      • stlouis1baseball - Jun 25, 2013 at 11:46 AM

        That is a hell of a way to describe it Bruno…but I where you are coming from.
        Let me just say I have been to Alaska and it is wonderful. I couldn’t stand more than two weeks however. And I don’t fly well. The flight is a gauntlet.

    • jackrabbit56 - Jun 25, 2013 at 11:49 AM

      I watched the hockey game, but completely forgot “Under the Dome” started last night and never set the DVR…

    • stlouis1baseball - Jun 25, 2013 at 4:39 PM

      Come on Man! Is Bergeron overweight…out of shape…and 40+ years old?
      But point taken. I will be playing in our competitive division softball game tomorrow evening.
      Sore ribs or not.

  7. Jonny 5 - Jun 25, 2013 at 9:45 AM

    Ok, so when does Papelbon’s teammates and manager get to call him out in the media for not only blowing saves, but also blowing at being a good teammate?

    • flamethrower101 - Jun 25, 2013 at 10:06 AM

      When Ruben Amaro Jr. says he and Lee are on the trade market, which we should be seeing sometime before the 2075 season.

  8. pisano - Jun 25, 2013 at 9:58 AM

    Now I understand why a lot of the fans in Boston called him Papeldouche, it makes perfect sense.

    • nolanwiffle - Jun 25, 2013 at 10:15 AM

      They did?

    • yahmule - Jun 25, 2013 at 10:48 AM

      I’ve noticed that the “bon” in Papelbon is often replaced by a less flattering syllable.

      • bleedgreen - Jun 25, 2013 at 5:40 PM

        I prefer Papelblown. As in He’s Papelblown 4 saves this week.

  9. DelawarePhilliesFan - Jun 25, 2013 at 10:01 AM

    Not a fan of the guy, and I am really fed up right now in general. But that said, there are three ways you can answer the question:

    - Say nothign (which he did)
    - “It’s my job to make the right pitches, and I did not make the right pitches”
    - “I should have started the inning/Ruiz should have caught the ball”

    I think we would all agree #3 is bad….and #2 (imo) sounds a little silly after blowing that many saves in such a short span. I recommend he just STFU and pitch. And that the team STFU and hit. And that they STFU and play defense (that is aimed at others, not Ruiz).

    I have no problem that he did not wax poetic in response. In fact, I don’t hear another word from any of them. Win. That is all the talking necessary. If they can’t do that, then yea….just shut up and and go away

    • paperlions - Jun 25, 2013 at 10:16 AM

      Yeah, if he is going to say anything it should just be, “it is my job to close out the game and I didn’t.”

      • stlouis1baseball - Jun 25, 2013 at 1:16 PM

        Not sure why you got all the thumbs downs on that link.
        The ball was over the plate. More middle the corner. Plus…it was a change up.
        It’s not like he got crossed up thinking breaking pitch and dude brings the heat.

      • paperlions - Jun 25, 2013 at 1:20 PM

        Phans don’t like phacts.

    • commonsenseisnotcmonman - Jun 25, 2013 at 10:55 AM

      This wittier “No Comment” doesn’t bother me, but he still should have publicly apologized to Ryan and his coaches.
      Regardless if he gets traded or not, no need to act like a phallic symbol…

  10. chip56 - Jun 25, 2013 at 10:54 AM

    What Papelbon should have said, “It’s on me. Cliff pitched a hell of a game, they pay me to come in and close it out and I didn’t do it. Can’t do anything about it except go out there and get the next one.”

    Same message, better packaging.

    • jwbiii - Jun 25, 2013 at 11:12 AM

      That sounds a lot like the George Brett line, “I stunk it up today. Get ‘em tomorrow.”

  11. chip56 - Jun 25, 2013 at 10:55 AM

    Of course – even though I detest Papsmear – I do tend to give guys the benefit of the doubt when asked for a reaction right after a gut punch game like that.

  12. normcash - Jun 25, 2013 at 12:43 PM

    This the guy that rumor had it the Tigers might trade for, giving up Porcello, Castellanos,
    Smyly, etc. Dave Dombrowski isn’t stupid.

  13. aceshigh11 - Jun 25, 2013 at 1:19 PM

    What an asshole.

    Thank Darwin Boston jettisoned this clown.

  14. coloradostupid - Jun 25, 2013 at 1:37 PM

    Well said. Scumbag may also fit.

  15. ponci21 - Jun 25, 2013 at 5:33 PM

    Thanks Paps! I didn’t realize that when I watched last Mondays game that you blew, when Dom saved your ass, or when I went to last Wednesdays game and you let Werthless send it to extras, leaving me to sit in the emptiest stadium I have ever been in, or when you blew yet another game and Fransden saved your ass again. Alas, your teammates that you trashed last week can’t save you every game and you can’t seem to save any game. I really hope the next I hear from you is “Trades happen”. I will take Nick Castellanos please.

  16. therealtrenches - Jun 25, 2013 at 10:26 PM

    It’s been pretty clear since he called out his teammates after blowing a save vs the Nats that Pap doesn’t give a $hite about the team that’s paying him. This quote only makes that clearer. Why sugar coat it or rationalize it?

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