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There are Marlins superfans, apparently

Jun 28, 2013, 3:32 PM EDT

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The Miami Marlins’normal fans-to-superfans ratio has to be the lowest in the game, right? From the Miami Herald:

Inside a nearly empty Marlins Ballpark, an endangered species stirs to life.

They roam Marlins Park clad in bright orange jerseys, caps, even team pins and earrings. They wave flags, have baseball mitts at the ready, and come with offerings of cupcakes.

These are the fans who come out night after night to cheer on a team in a new home that most have abandoned after only a year.

And they do it for one reason: Loyalty.

It’s a profile of some Marlins fanatics. Who, in addition to loyalty, have to be getting some hipster I-was-into-them-before-they-were-big jollies out of this too, right?

  1. flamethrower101 - Jun 28, 2013 at 3:37 PM

    Maybe Loria’s paying them. Hope it’s with money and not Mr. Krab’s “Wacky Bucks”

    • chadjones27 - Jun 28, 2013 at 4:13 PM

      He doesn’t even want to pay his team, why pay fans?

  2. jimmymarlinsfan - Jun 28, 2013 at 3:40 PM

    Marlins fan since 91 until the day I die. Not a Sally, pink hat fan like Gator

    • Gamera the Brave - Jun 28, 2013 at 4:23 PM

      Ah, jimmy – envy of the more intelligent is not a good look, my friend…

      • jimmymarlinsfan - Jun 28, 2013 at 10:09 PM

        Envy of who? Gator? Yeah because I’m in rush to reach 80 and senility

    • Craig Calcaterra - Jun 28, 2013 at 4:28 PM

      In 1991 you were rooting for a team that didn’t begin play until 1993?

      • WhyDoIActuallyCare - Jun 28, 2013 at 4:33 PM

        Yeah, they started playing in 1993. The team was awarded and began signing players in 1991.

      • stlouis1baseball - Jun 28, 2013 at 5:03 PM


      • jimmymarlinsfan - Jun 28, 2013 at 10:12 PM

        Oh Craig, your post here shows you should not have a national baseball blog as why pointed out. But hey, at least you mentioned Jeff in another post. So at least you aren’t a complete fool. You may proceed with thinking the Braves will win anything soon of merit.

      • addictedzone - Jun 28, 2013 at 10:34 PM

        Indeed 1991. They signed their first player in ’91 and hired their first coach in ’91. Fans of the Braves would recognize the first coach ever hired in the Marlins organization… Fredi González.

    • Old Gator - Jun 28, 2013 at 5:22 PM

      What Jimmy doesn’t understand, lost as he is in his fog of gullibility, is that it takes more than mindless loyalty – which is just the fan equivalent of, say, Tea Party jingoism – to make a “fan.” In his witless and unquestioning support for the corrupt, lying, thieving, destructive bloodsucker (and his incredible shrinking hatchetman) who owns the team. He does so in blithe disregard for the enormous damage his hero has done to the community (in which, incidentally, Jimmy doesn’t even live) that Scrooge preens so disingenuously that he represents.

      Jimmythe ScroogeMcLoriagull claims to be a “fan” but in his naive witlessness he is doing nothing but perpetuating the condemnation of the team to mediocrity and the corrosion of what’s left of its fan base.

      • jimmymarlinsfan - Jun 28, 2013 at 10:13 PM

        Gator, I’ve explained many times I don’t blindly follow the team. What I don’t support is a 140 million payroll that finishes in dead last comfortably. Lets the kids play and grow. You may return to eating your box of dicks

      • Old Gator - Jun 28, 2013 at 11:03 PM

        If I’m not mistaken, you’re the same dimwit who called top-ranking ranking crook and liar Scrooge McLoria “the best owner the Marlins ever had.” That’s not just blindness – that’s blindness unaugmented by chin whiskers, barbels, lateral lines, echo location, highly developed hearing or enhanced sense of touch. Aside from being ethically bankrupt, it’s just plain stupid.

        And hey, I didn’t know you and Junglerat lived under the same trailer. Stay classy, decerebrate.

      • jimmymarlinsfan - Jun 28, 2013 at 11:22 PM

        Then please of wise one, please explain why Wayne Huizenga and John Henry were better owners than Loria. I eagerly await your nonsense.

        Gator, in another life time, we may have been friends but my understanding of loyalty or fandom is one of convenience where you always agree completely with what your team is doing but you support the players who wear their home city on the front of their jersey proudly. To me, you are the epitome of bad, fair weather, leaving the arena with 28 seconds left in game and then rushing back when a comeback is on Miami fan. For shame on you for someone who claims to love his community so much and claim to be a sports fan to spread such seething hate for your home town baseball team. For shame and good day sir

      • Old Gator - Jun 29, 2013 at 10:49 AM

        If you had even the least residue of intellectual (guffaw!) integrity in you you’d know that I don’t “spread hate” for the team – but for its atrocious, corrupt, lying ownership. I’ve been more than forthcoming with admiration for ballplayers who have earned it through their performances on the field.

        You can’t argue issues straight up because you’re neither bright nor honest enough; all you can do is construct straw men – and cliched ones at that; you can’t even think up an original straw man on your own.

        And no, if you were this dumb and gullible in a past life, I don’t think we could have been friends then either.

      • Old Gator - Jun 29, 2013 at 1:42 PM

        Ah, but as to Huizinga and Henry, it’s only because you need yet another straw man to flog that you’d like to pretend I defend them when, of course, anyone who’s read my posts for going on four years now knows I do not defend them. But, in the interest of fairness – something with which you are quintessentially unfamiliar – let’s weigh them up: Huizinga brought the team to Macondo in the first place. He built a World Champion. Major kudos. Then he lost faith and dismantled the team instead of waiting at least a few more years to help build upon what the franchise had accomplished – unfortunate, indeed, because he initiated the cycle of owner contempt for the fan community that Scrooge McLoria has brought to its ultimate fruition. On the other hand, Huizinga was always honest about the situation: no smoke-and-mirrors backloaded contracts to fool the fans into thinking he planned to build and sustain a winner; no empty promises that “there will be no dismantling,” as I head Scrooge McLoria declare at the end of the 1993 victory parade. He said the team was for sale. He sold it. Period. John Henry was also atrocious, promising at the top of his lungs to build a stadium himself if the legislature wouldn’t, then dumping the team in the lap of the despicable Scrooge McLoria, fresh from his hatchet man assignment in Montreal. On Henry’s behalf, it should be argued – and I can’t think of any seasoned baseball analysts who would deny this – that Henry and Dombrowski built the core of the 2003 championship team and left it to Larry Beinfest to take all the credit for it, and there’s no disputing that the signing of Pudge Rodriguez (on the cheap, of course) was the missing ingredient that brought it all together.

        Nevertheless, left to their own devices once that missing ingredient departed Scrooge and his gang haven’t been able to sniff a posteason since. Nor has there been any indication that they even want to. And why should they? They’re suckled like lampreys on the teat of luxury tax remittances. All they’ve done is empty the team’s coffers – mostly filled by other owners – into their own pockets. The cute little orrery or subsidiary corporations, into which the cash flow bifurcates as it descends closer and closer to Scrooge’s personal bank account, has been pretty well documented in a series of articles in the Feeshwrapper and other publications. They’ve gone on turfing their best players as soon as they became eligible to pay what they were worth, at the arbitration or trade horizon, and show every indication of doing so ad infinitum.

        And there’s no point repeating the very well documented process by which Scrooge and the Chihuahua chummed and scammed the city and county and crippled them with debt to build Macondo Banana Massacre field. You sit out there lamely insinuating something about “the truth.” If you weren’t such an irremediable liar – to yourself and the rest of us – you’d stop whining about it and go do some reading. Scrooge’s perfidy and the collective imbecility and corruption of our “elected officials” has been examined right here on this blog dozens of times.

      • Old Gator - Jun 29, 2013 at 1:44 PM

        Correction: 2003 victory parade.

        Edit function!
        Edit function!

  3. rcali - Jun 28, 2013 at 3:42 PM

    So when will Loria trade these fans for some cheaper, less experienced fans from somebody’s AAA team?

    • Old Gator - Jun 29, 2013 at 1:44 PM

      As soon as they’re arbitration eligible.

  4. koufaxmitzvah - Jun 28, 2013 at 3:44 PM

    I bet that’s Gator with the earrings.

    • historiophiliac - Jun 28, 2013 at 3:47 PM

      roller blades and cupcakes too?

      • koufaxmitzvah - Jun 28, 2013 at 3:49 PM

        He claims to be a chef.

      • historiophiliac - Jun 28, 2013 at 3:57 PM

        (I only said cupcakes to get him offended.)

      • unclemosesgreen - Jun 28, 2013 at 5:55 PM

        What’s wrong with cupcakes? They are to cake as minipies are to pie.

      • historiophiliac - Jun 28, 2013 at 5:57 PM

        I’m pretty sure their frosting-covered cuteness is an affront to OG. And, of course, they are cake…which is not as good as bread pudding.

    • Old Gator - Jun 28, 2013 at 5:15 PM

      At risk of instigating something akin to the interminable cake versus pie conflict – Circling the Bases’ answer to the Arab-Israeli conflict – I wish to declare, here and now, that muffins are totally, utterly, unimpeachably superior to cupcakes. Cupcakes are nothing but lesser spirit entities who could not be muffins. And filled cupcakes are just lesser spirit entities who could not be muffins with encapsulated cysts.

      • unclemosesgreen - Jun 28, 2013 at 5:58 PM

        Cupcakes are delicious – but not as delicious as muffins. I do a 3-grain chocolate chip muffin sometimes that’s outrageously good and much easier than a colonic. One of those and a strong cup of coffee …. time to fetch the sports page.

        I grind quick oats for the 3rd grain.

      • APBA Guy - Jun 28, 2013 at 6:19 PM

        Long ago, when I worked for the Gov, I would occasionally eat at the Dept of Agriculture cafeteria in DC. Not only was this much better than my own agency’s humble fare, but I’d also get to study the latest in wisdom pertaining to all things nutritious. Take for example the 5 major food groups:

        – Cake
        – Pie
        – Cookies
        – Candy
        – Ice Cream

        What OG isn’t giving sufficient weight to is the placement of cupcakes in the nutritional hierarchy, as a species of Cake if you will, whereas a muffin is much further down the family tree, almost outside the Cake family, and if the sugar and fat content is particularly low, in fact falling out of the Cake family altogether and into the inferno of Other Edible Matter, like vegetables, or sawdust, something best avoided altogether.

        All of this information is very esoteric, gleaned only after many helpings of the Ag blueberry pie a la mode, which was second only to the National Park Service version, and passed to me in great confidence by the large-ish women working the service line at the cafeteria, along with a second helping of pie and the admonition “eat something”.

        OG, next trip to SF, I’m bringing you a Sibby’s cupcake. Don’t thank me now, because you will thank me later.

      • unclemosesgreen - Jun 28, 2013 at 7:32 PM

        You can only skimp on muffin fat so much – so I try to balance that out a little by using olive oil for half the fat.

        In my notebook muffins are in the quick bread genus.

    • Old Gator - Jun 28, 2013 at 11:25 PM

      koufax: a cook, a cook. And, unabashedly, a good one too.

      And yeah, I don’t like the cutesy designs on a cupcake. I don’t like meerkats, either.

      Moses: I grind Quaker multigrain cereal for the same reason – using my coffee grinder, ackcherley. It works like a charm. I prefer to use a teaspoon of yeast along with whole grain flours instead of bleached self-rising flour. This enables me to ration Metamucil more effectively. Go ahead and post the chocolate chip muffin recipe.

      • historiophiliac - Jun 28, 2013 at 11:53 PM

        I have a banana bread recipe with so much olive oil in it, it probably qualifies as a slider. I made it a couple of times and it tastes really good, but I had to lay off b/c of all the oil.

      • nbjays - Jun 29, 2013 at 9:48 AM

        My banana oatmeal muffins have ZERO fat in them. I learned long ago that you can replace the 1/2 cup of oil, or shortening or whatever with unsweetened applesauce with no loss of quality or taste and it actually makes them *GASP* healthy. Also works very well with my wife’s carrot cake recipe.

      • Old Gator - Jun 29, 2013 at 12:55 PM

        Or, you can substitute coconut oil which, of all the tropical oils, is far and away the highest in polyunsaturates and exerts the least pressure on the flavors you’re trying to emphasize. But I’m intrigued by the applesauce idea and will give it a try next time I make banana apple walnut muffins. Thanks for the idea, nb.

  5. specialkindofstupid - Jun 28, 2013 at 3:46 PM

    Considering some murders on death row receive fan mail (some even marriage proposals), the Marlins having loyal “superfans” doesn’t surprise me.

    I bet Jeff Loria even has a groupie or two.

    • sabatimus - Jun 28, 2013 at 4:44 PM

      Sounds like Bonnie & Clyde Syndrome.

    • Old Gator - Jun 28, 2013 at 5:23 PM

      He does have a groupie. Special, meet the Chihuahua.

  6. flamethrower101 - Jun 28, 2013 at 3:50 PM

    Maybe Aaron Hernandez was one of them and he took it just a little bit too far.

  7. ramblingalb - Jun 28, 2013 at 5:00 PM

    Tampa Bay, Cleveland, and Houston have basically the same attendance this year as Miami. The continued implication that the Marlins have extraordinarily small crowds is false and poor reporting.

    The real irony here is the Astros are pretty much rebuilding in the exact same manner, and yet escape the scrutiny.

    • stlouis1baseball - Jun 28, 2013 at 5:08 PM

      The Astro’s have been around a long…long time.
      They were essentially kicked out of the National League.
      Their Owner hasn’t dismantled baseball clubs like Jeffrey Loria.
      Their Owner isn’t a smug twerp like Jeffrey Loria.
      Their Owner doesn’t have people lined up wanting to dot his eye like Jeffrey Loria.
      Their Owner isn’t a complete Penishead like Jeffrey Loria.

      Otherwise…yeah…I see your point.

      • Old Gator - Jun 28, 2013 at 5:31 PM

        And you forgot – their owner hasn’t conspired with profiteering, reprobate city councilmen and credulous ex-mayors to rip off the city and county out of which their grotesque new stadium rises like an irrupted subdermal tumor, crippling its future social and municipal services budget with literally billions of dollars of usurious bond interest, and then sent out his elf to address the chamber of commerce to inform them to their faces how gullible and stupid they were for backing the enterprise in the first place.

        Sorry, ramblingalb, you simply don’t have any freaking idea what you’re talking about when you compare the execrable Scrooge McLoria to any other bad ownership. They’re just bad ownerships. Ours is criminal ownership.

    • jimmymarlinsfan - Jun 28, 2013 at 11:24 PM

      People on this particular blog hate truth. Look at the author for example.

      • Old Gator - Jun 29, 2013 at 10:51 AM

        Oh. I thought they hated our freedom.

  8. derklempner - Jun 28, 2013 at 5:50 PM

    “They roam Marlins Park clad in bright orange jerseys, caps, even team pins and earrings.”

    Whenever I think of the Marlins’ uniforms, I always think they look like what the Comedy Central softball team would wear.

    • jwbiii - Jun 28, 2013 at 6:09 PM

      Oddly, the Comedy Central softball team uniforms are completely unfunny.

  9. theinconvienenttruth - Jun 28, 2013 at 6:00 PM

    Old Gator uses big words

    • clemente2 - Jun 28, 2013 at 6:23 PM

      OG writes well.

      • jimmymarlinsfan - Jun 28, 2013 at 10:16 PM

        Compared to who? George W. Bush?

      • Old Gator - Jun 28, 2013 at 11:06 PM

        Jimmy’s in attack mode, and he’s adorable when he gets that way. I have a pet Australian frilled lizard like that. Hissssssssssss!

      • jimmymarlinsfan - Jun 28, 2013 at 11:25 PM

        Enjoying good beer and bad writing by someone with the intelligence of a gator

    • historiophiliac - Jun 28, 2013 at 6:49 PM

      I never understand this sort of comment.

      • Old Gator - Jun 28, 2013 at 11:10 PM

        I bet that’s because you haven’t read Saussure’s Structural Linguistics. That makes it possible to understand even the dumbest comments. I often use it to read Jimmythescroogemcloriagull’s comments, for example – some of which I can trace back to Old Indo-European comments that originated in the central Caucasus around 5000BC and spread rapidly from idiot to idiot into the northern Subcontinent and westward to Grand Fenwick.

      • historiophiliac - Jun 28, 2013 at 11:18 PM

        Riddle me this, then, wisened sage: why are confessions of ignorance compulsive?

      • Old Gator - Jun 29, 2013 at 10:53 AM

        That’s a tough one. Someone who is aware of their ignorance is a contradiction in terms. Our pal JimmytheScroogeMcLoriagull, on the other hand, is a model of consistency.

        Be careful not to bite through the rubber nipple and spill that Budweiser on your nappies, Jimmy.

      • Gamera the Brave - Jul 2, 2013 at 10:23 AM

        Gator (and, apologies for commenting on such an archaic thread, I was away from my computer for a few blissful days), but I would humbly suggest that “Someone who is aware of their ignorance is a contradiction in terms.” is incorrect.
        As a person who is comfortable with the concept that “I don’t – and CAN’T – know everything”, and since ignorance is simply the lack of knowledge, I assert that ignorance is best employed as motivation to reduce ignorance, rather than the converse of a lack of self-awareness. I am not at all sure that the above was clearly stated, but the caffeine is only just beginning to click in, out here on the bucolic Left Coast…

        And no – you cannot induce me to read Saussure. Re-read Wibberley, maybe…

    • Old Gator - Jun 28, 2013 at 11:11 PM

      Words are all the same size. They only seem big to people with atrophied vocabularies.

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