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Jonathan Papelbon on Yasiel Puig making the All-Star team: “it’s an absolute joke. It’s really kind of stupid”

Jul 2, 2013, 4:02 PM EDT

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The real question is why anyone asked him. But they did, and here’s what the Phillies closer thinks of Yasiel Puig maybe making the All-Star team:

“To me, it’s an absolute joke. It’s really kind of stupid if you ask me,”Papelbon said on MLB Network Radio, as he had trouble even saying Puig’s name correctly. “The guy’s got a month, I don’t even think he’s got a month in the big leagues, and just comparing him to this and that, and saying he’s going to make the all-star team, that’s a joke to me. It’s just really what happens in baseball when… to me it really does an injustice to the veteran players that have been in the game for eight, nine, ten plus years, and it kind of does them an injustice because they’ve worked so hard to stay there.”

I was kind of agnostic on the idea of Puig making the All-Star team. I mean, sure, he hasn’t been around long and I feel like overall contribution matters. At the same time, it is just the All-Star Game and give the people what they want, ya know?

Now, though? I want him to make the All-Star team simply so that Jonathan Papelbon is further annoyed.

(thanks to Halladay’s Biceps — yes, I talk to him on Twitter — for the heads up)

126 Comments (Feed for Comments)
  1. beep834 - Jul 2, 2013 at 5:00 PM

    He’s forgetting something. All-Star game is for the fans. That’s why they vote for the starters. I understand his opinion but he made him self sound a little ignorant the way he voiced his opinion.. If the fans vote him in, its who they wanna see. Can anybody blame them for wanting to see him? No hitter has done what he has done in his first month since 1910. I think that should be celebrated, not discredited because he is a rookie.

    • basedrum777 - Jul 2, 2013 at 5:25 PM

      My issue is that the allstar game IS NOT FOR THE FANS! It determines homefield for the WS. It COUNTS! Do not make exceptions for a game that counts. They also shouldn’t have a requirement for every team to have a rep.

      • curtis35w - Jul 2, 2013 at 5:43 PM

        well they made that rule for the fans, so yes it is still for the fans. after 2002 when the all star game ended in a tie and fans got very angry, the league decided to make the game more interesting for the fans. and well it has worked. so yes the all star game IS FOR THE FANS!

      • erbaodai - Jul 2, 2013 at 5:44 PM

        basebrum777 So you’re saying we won’t win with Puig? Not even with his insane power-speed combo, ridiculous arm strength and LB or RB like athleticism?

      • emihelich7096 - Jul 3, 2013 at 1:15 AM

        The thing that gets me about Paps comment is the “8, 9, 10 years” thing. I understand respecting veterans and whatnot, but when home field is on the line and the game is played halfway through the season, its not “what have you done for me in the past”, its “what are you doing for me now?”. Same argument can be made for ridiculous free agent contracts when one team pays insane amounts for a players production on another team, no matter how legendary. (Pooholes, Fielder)

      • coloradogolfcoupons - Jul 3, 2013 at 4:48 PM

        “My issue is that the allstar game IS NOT FOR THE FANS! It determines homefield for the WS. It COUNTS! Do not make exceptions for a game that counts.”

        All the MORE reason to select Puig, because he can hit anything anywhere and is just about the hottest hitter in the UNIVERSE right now.

        So who do you want coming into the game in the late innings to pinch hit, some scrub that is his team’s lone representative, or PUIG???

        Puig has caused more excitement to this season that Trout and Harper COMBINED last year before the AS game. LET HIM PLAY!

      • wolfwithlightsaber - Jul 8, 2013 at 5:49 PM

        Are you upset because “it counts” as an American League Fan? Because you really want your best players out there then of you want to have the best shot at winning home field advantage.

        Have you seen what this kid can do for a team? Have you seen him aggressively attack a pitch, get the big hit?

        Please answer if you root for the National or American League, then tell me which player should have gone in his stead that is a better player right now, meaning for this time period, today…Who has a fresh arm, strong back, spring in there step, drive, FERVOR.

        The All Star game is one night, and in week, not over the period of 3 months….Kids gonnna give the National League a decent shot.

    • pappageorgio - Jul 2, 2013 at 5:50 PM

      If a rookie was putting up the same numbers or even better, and this rookie played for the twins or the rays or any number of non- LA/NY/BOS teams we wouldn’t be having this discussion.

      YP has had a great month. No doubt about it.

      But realistically, how long should someone have to compete before being declared one of the best in baseball?

      I guess if he keeps it up through the end of the year we can punch his HOF ballot.

      • deadeyedesign23 - Jul 2, 2013 at 10:32 PM

        That seems like wild conjecture seeing as no rookie has put up those numbers since Dimaggio.

      • bigdodgerblue - Jul 5, 2013 at 9:32 PM

        Bottom line is nobody is hitting better, no one is bringing more excitement too the fans than PG. When I can sit and watch Diamond backs and Mets play and the commentators spend 3 innings talking about PG he’s got peoples attention. The name of the game is winning whenever put a uniform on and if I’m managing an all star team I want to win…So I’m taking Puig he’s hot and can help me win.
        simple as that…

    • drewsylvania - Jul 2, 2013 at 5:52 PM

      If the All-Star game is for the fans, how come nobody tunes in to watch it?

      And why do we care much, much more about who’s in it than who plays in it?

      • Utley's Hair - Jul 3, 2013 at 5:37 PM

        For one thing, it’s on FOX…with Schmuck and McCarebear calling the game. Who the hell wants to listen to THAT?

    • braunliesandcheats - Jul 3, 2013 at 10:29 AM

      Ok based on that line of thinking..Dominic Brown on the Phillies had a monstrous May or 5 weeks of great baseball. He was player of the week for 2 straight weeks and was player of the month of May. For the month of May, Brown hit .303 with 12 homers and 25 RBIs. He became the first player ever to hit double-digit home runs in a month without walking. In May, Brown became just the sixth player age-25 or younger to hit 12 home runs within his first 108 plate appearances. The others? Babe Ruth, Alex Rodriguez, Eric Davis, Boog Powell and Frank Howard. He is in good company don’t you think. Guess he should be in the All Star game too.

      • bigdodgerblue - Jul 5, 2013 at 9:40 PM

        I guess you have to ask yourself is.. Is Brown hitting 430+ right now? Is he stretching singles into doubles? Scoring from second on an infield hit to 1st? The only one that has more hits than Puig in his first show month was DiMagio. You think they said the same about DiMagio? You can say what ever you want but Puig is the hottest hitting player in baseball right now. I thought they played the game to win not honor some poor bastard that’s been in the league 10 years and hasn’t been an all-star yet. Anytime you put on the uniform it should be to win no matter what the stakes are. And if you want to win then you gotta take the hottest bat in the league right now.

    • bigdodgerblue - Jul 5, 2013 at 10:45 PM

      The problem is what the all star game should be AND what it is….
      1st a player from every team???? really?? The best 34 from each league is what it should be.
      2nd.. Shouldn’t be a veterans game of some poor bastard’s that have played 9-10 years and weren’t picked as MVP or all star in the past so we’ll do it now.
      3rd.. The All-star game does mean something now…HOME FIELD ADVANTAGE FOR WS..AND THAT MAATTERS.
      4th. as I said earlier best 34 d each manager should put on the uniform to win. And each manager should manage the game to win. And make their picks based on who can best help them win. WHO PLAY’S TO LOSE???
      5TH… AND PUIG IS THE HOTTEST HITTER IN MLB RIGHT NOW …..Based on that they should take him. And leave Papelbon at home so he doesn’t blow the save…..

  2. rjostewart - Jul 2, 2013 at 5:01 PM

    Just for the record:

    Jonathan Papelbon has appeared in 30 of the Phillies’ 83 games, or 36%
    Yasiel Puig has appeared in 26 of the Dodgers’ 82 games, or 32%

    • drewsylvania - Jul 2, 2013 at 6:08 PM

      Apples and oranges, of course.

    • drewsylvania - Jul 2, 2013 at 7:43 PM

      Upthumbs brought to you by Sheepthinkers of America.

      • Francisco (FC) - Jul 3, 2013 at 9:17 AM

        More like Lemmings of America. I’m certain a ton of people did not really think that through. There’s no logic to that line of argumentation.

    • DelawarePhilliesFan - Jul 2, 2013 at 8:14 PM

      “Just for the record:

      Jonathan Papelbon has appeared in 30 of the Phillies’ 83 games, or 36%
      Yasiel Puig has appeared in 26 of the Dodgers’ 82 games, or 32%”

      Meaning what?

      • rjostewart - Jul 2, 2013 at 8:46 PM

        Meaning that I’m not sure how four additional (probably) single inning appearances make him a more deserving All Star candidate than someone who is, in his words, “a joke.” Replace Papelbon’s name and stats with any other closer and the point remains.

      • DelawarePhilliesFan - Jul 2, 2013 at 9:37 PM

        So in other words, you feel that unless a guy with 27 games as an everyday player gets to get in, no reliever should? How about teh starters, who have about 14 to 15 games plyed. Who throws the balls in the game, a machine?

        If you made the point that papelbohns criticsim was….unseemly, unnecessary, and classless, I would agree. Instead you make assert that a part time player (to put it generously) is more seasoned than every single pitcher in the league

      • rjostewart - Jul 2, 2013 at 10:07 PM

        I don’t recall saying I thought Puig should necessarily make it, or anything about “seasoning,” just suggesting that maybe Papelbon is not the best guy to be making this argument (in general, I’m less interested in seeing relievers in the All-Star Game, but to each his own).

      • DelawarePhilliesFan - Jul 2, 2013 at 10:15 PM

        Pitchers and postion players are not the same, your argument wold be an argument against every single pitcher.

        Papelbohn made a classless comment, no need to contort logic as a rebuttal. It would be classless if a guy who hasn’t missed an inning said it

  3. bh0673 - Jul 2, 2013 at 5:08 PM

    One month does not an All Star make and a perfect example is Kevin Maas, for a very short period of time he was the next Don Mattingly until they figured out how to pitch to him and he became an out. I hope Puig becomes a great player but a few months in the big leagues does not an All Star make.

    • ghostfishhunter - Jul 2, 2013 at 5:21 PM

      [quote]One month does not an All Star make and a perfect example is Kevin Maas[/quote]

    • erbaodai - Jul 2, 2013 at 5:45 PM

      Kevin Maas? What about Joe-D and Willie McCovey? Or recently, Trout and Harper?

      • bh0673 - Jul 2, 2013 at 5:55 PM

        Well lets talk about McCovey became an All Star after 3 years in the big leagues, Mike Trout came up in 2011 and made the All Star team in 2012. Harper and DiMaggio did make the All Star games in their first year but each was up for more then a month. I am not knocking Puig I hope he is the real thing but I still think one month is not enough time to cast any player into the national spotlight.

      • Francisco (FC) - Jul 3, 2013 at 9:18 AM

        By that logic Domonic Brown should be in the All-Star game for his fantastic month of May.

    • jk55299 - Jul 3, 2013 at 2:45 PM

      The all star game isnt even a big deal anymore. It seemed like 900 guys made it last year because of injuries and pitching conflicts

  4. erbaodai - Jul 2, 2013 at 5:49 PM

    Puig has more WAR than Carlos Beltran, Ryan Braun, Shin-Soo Choo, Justin Upton and Bryce Harper in about 30 to 50 less games played, and you say he isn’t an All-Star? Guess Pap’s just jealous cause there won’t be any room for him on the team, ha!

    • drewsylvania - Jul 2, 2013 at 6:07 PM

      What a dumb statement. A) You’ve cherry-picked five names when there are eight outfielders ahead of Puig in WAR; and B) Paps will likely make the All-Star team, as he is a name guy with a 2.05 ERA and 15 saves pitching for a mediocre team.

      • erbaodai - Jul 2, 2013 at 6:14 PM

        Puig could easily replace any of the five names I mentioned (or possibly more) in the All-Star game.

      • drewsylvania - Jul 2, 2013 at 7:45 PM

        Of COURSE he could! That’s not the point. The point is that there are plenty of other deserving players *not* named Puig or those five names.

      • erbaodai - Jul 2, 2013 at 8:02 PM

        So what? I’m not saying he should replace Carlos Gomez or Carlos Gonzalez, I’m just saying he’s already better than the veterans who are in the All-Star converstion and frequently used to attack Puig’s candidacy.

      • drewsylvania - Jul 2, 2013 at 10:25 PM

        You’re strongly insinuating that Puig should be an All-Star. I’m telling you that there are plenty of outfielders to choose from *before* considering Puig.

  5. biscuitneck - Jul 2, 2013 at 6:04 PM

    He’s got much to prove…but he’s WELL on his way. The guy is amazing.

  6. cohnjusack - Jul 2, 2013 at 6:15 PM

    I think sending a guy to the All-Star game over 26 games worth of stats is a bit silly….a lot of not-so-great players have had great starts to their career, then pitchers adjust to them and they don’t adjust back.

    But the key phrase is “a bit silly”. As in, “Oh, Puig made the All-Star team? That’s a bit silly! Now if you’ll excuse me, everything else is more important”.

    Actually…when you think about it, like 80 people are going to make the All-Star team when you factor in injury replacements and the stupid expanded rosters. So a guy with a month’s worth of amazing stats probably is going to be better than some of the guys who get drudged up for that.

    • cohnjusack - Jul 2, 2013 at 6:27 PM

      Worst All-Stars of All-Time.

      -Afredo Griffin- 1984: Hitting .241/.250/.317 at the break. Yes, he was an All-Star with a .567 OPS
      -Steve Rogers- 1974: 10-11, 4.68 ERA at the break
      -Steve Swisher- 1976: .651 first half OPS
      -Ron Coomer- 1999. In the height of baseball’s offensive explosion, he made it as a .770 OPSing 1st baseman

      I mean…Puig could be could be hitting 100 points on each of his slash stats and still not be *nearly* as poor of a choice as these guys.

      Just calm down Mr. Papelbon…

      • stlouis1baseball - Jul 3, 2013 at 9:11 AM

        Thanks for the memories Cusack. A couple of those names took me back a bit.
        Wasn’t Griffin a slick fielding shortstop? One of the best at the time? If so…in those days SS’s (for the most part)…were elected based upon their defensive prowess. Not trying to necessarily disagree with the post (overall). Just really starting to remember how good Alfredo Griffin was. If I am thinking of the same guy…he would have been my replacement for the Wizard (if I had to pick another shortstop).

  7. daubs17 - Jul 2, 2013 at 6:54 PM

    says the guy using interviews to talk about his alter ego….ok jon

  8. nbjays - Jul 2, 2013 at 7:11 PM

    “To me, I’M an absolute joke. I’M really kind of stupid if you ask me”

    There, Paps… fixed that for you.

    That said, will someone tell me the difference between Puig making the ASG this year and Harper making it last year?

  9. jayscarpa - Jul 2, 2013 at 7:23 PM

    He has the right to his opinion but he doesn’t have be a tool about it. After reading the Puig post here this morning I’d say the guy worked pretty hard to get to where he is.

  10. kevinbnyc - Jul 2, 2013 at 7:28 PM

    He should probably shut up and stop blowing saves.

  11. norcalkingsfan - Jul 2, 2013 at 7:50 PM

    Watch Puig bring home the MVP.

  12. northbeachtom - Jul 2, 2013 at 9:07 PM

    Puig is raking right now but the fact that he is LA is why all the hype is on. He plays in Kansas City and he isn’t even in the conversation.

    • koufaxmitzvah - Jul 3, 2013 at 8:57 AM

      After more than 100 ABs, the guy is batting over .430. But that’s only being emphasized because he plays for LA?

      Talk about an inferiority complex. Welcome to last place, SF.

      • jimeejohnson - Jul 4, 2013 at 1:56 PM

        It’s the Dodgers and their fans who have an inferiority complex when it comes to San Francisco. Enjoy the smog, traffic, and the a$$holes from everywhere down in that artificial parking lot known as Los Angeles.

    • lanflfan - Jul 3, 2013 at 5:00 PM

      If you believe that then I have a bridge to sell you. It’s “Golden”, with a marvelous view of the Pacific Ocean on one side and a major port on the other, has survived numerous earthquakes and connects some pretty nice real estate.

  13. 8man - Jul 2, 2013 at 10:22 PM

    This will be hilarious when Puig makes the All-Star roster and Papelbon doesn’t. Then again, it’d be funnier if they both made it. I’d like to know why Papelbon is so fired up about it. Great theater.

    • nbjays - Jul 3, 2013 at 3:29 PM

      It’s a shame that they are both in the NL, because Puig winning the ASG on a homer off of Papelbon would be sweet karmic bliss.

  14. nothanksimdriving123 - Jul 3, 2013 at 12:43 AM

    FWIW, some of us recall the 1976 All-Star Game. The starting pitcher for the AL was Mark Fidrych. It was the rookie’s 12th MLB start.

  15. Mr. Wright 212 - Jul 3, 2013 at 12:54 AM

    Papelbon should go jump into an empty swimming pool.

    • jimeejohnson - Jul 4, 2013 at 1:57 PM

      You’re right!

  16. yahmule - Jul 3, 2013 at 1:13 AM

    I certainly enjoyed watching Yasiel crush that bomb to dead center tonight.

  17. rcali - Jul 3, 2013 at 11:40 AM

    Puig, one of the top hitters in baseball. Had the Dodgers not over payed Kemp, Either, and Crawford, he would have been on the Dodgers opening day roster. Let’s not let bad decisions by a baseball club keep the top players out of the all-star game.

  18. dexterismyhero - Jul 3, 2013 at 1:47 PM

    Put in the Home Run Derby. Not on the team though.

  19. Utley's Hair - Jul 3, 2013 at 5:45 PM

    This is the guy who b!tched out his team for lacking baseball fundamentals (the veracity of which is irrelevant) after he blew his first save, and then proceeded to blow three of his next four opportunities? Got it…

  20. titansrst - Jul 9, 2013 at 7:47 PM

    What a fallacy, the All Star game being for the fan. The only thing that is for the fan is higher ticket prices, as well as expensive watered down refreshments, overprices eats and foul balls that find their way into the stands. I love Puig, but don’t believe that he should be on the All Star team because he has played so little at this stage. But the arguments the other way are good ones, but let’s not put a moral tone to our reasoning, It’s for the fans? Baseball and its other pro cousins are for almighty wallets of billionaires and millionaires. There used to be a time when there was a real buzz to the game, especially in the sixties and seventies, long before ESPN, CNN and the media in general turned sports into an absurdity based on the principles of the WWE. This is sad.

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