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Report: Biogenesis source agrees to cooperate with “the biggest scumbags on Earth”

Jul 2, 2013, 7:39 AM EDT

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According to TMZ, former Biogenesis employee Porter Fischer has struck a deal with Major League Baseball in which he will turn over all information he has and Major League Baseball will pay Fischer a “consultant” fee. Major League Baseball is apparently in the process of interviewing him.

Fischer, you may recall, recently described Major League Baseball as “the biggest scumbags on Earth”  in an interview with the Miami New Times. There he complained that baseball has using high-handed and hardball tactics in an effort to get Biogenesis information and claimed he was more or less screwed over by the league and by Anthony Bosch and that the whole mess has led to threats to his property and safety. Now things are different, apparently and he, Bosch and MLB are all on the same side.

As I noted in my followup to the Fisher business, this guy comes off as something less than a straightforward, reliable narrator. Maybe he has the goods on some players. Maybe he doesn’t. But based on what he’s said in that interview just two weeks ago, he’s either going to have to (a) testify that his fellow witness-against-the-players Anthony Bosch is an evil duplicitous person who can’t be trusted; or (b) admit that he himself lied in that interview and now, once he’s being paid by MLB, he’s being truthful.

So good luck with that.

  1. proudlycanadian - Jul 2, 2013 at 7:46 AM

    I think that in the first interview he all but admitted that he had stolen records from Biogenesis.

  2. jayscarpa - Jul 2, 2013 at 8:04 AM

    You keep referring to this situation as some sort of court/legal battle – “testify that…”, “admit that….”
    There is no penalty of perjury should any of these numbskulls lie to MLB (unless it is a part of a deposition in the MLB/Bosch suit).

    At some point a player may sue to overturn a denied appeal but at this point it’s just an employer vs. employees. There is no legal standard other than what is in the basic agreement with the MLBPA.

    You’re also assuming that people in general will pay attention to the nuts and bolts of all this instead of just caring about who got suspended and for how long. Fat chance.

    • Craig Calcaterra - Jul 2, 2013 at 8:17 AM

      He can say what he wants to MLB, yes. But the appeal — which will be inevitable and will have to happen before anyone is suspended — is an actual arbitration, which requires sworn testimony and cross-examination by lawyers. It’s not an “if” it’s an essential part of the process.

      • jayscarpa - Jul 2, 2013 at 8:36 AM

        I’m not sure they have authority to assess any penalty to non-players. I will defer to your knowledge as an attorney.

    • paperlions - Jul 2, 2013 at 8:30 AM

      To testify is simply to bear witness, a legal proceeding is not necessary for the word to apply.

      • historiophiliac - Jul 2, 2013 at 9:33 AM

        But his point about perjury holds. People lied to me all the time when I was an investigator. You often get stuck trying to figure out who lied the least or finding an independent truth amongst the lies. People lie a lot in court too. That doesn’t always lead to perjury charges either.

      • paperlions - Jul 2, 2013 at 9:46 AM

        Of course people always lie. I doubt that anyone on the stand for over 5 minutes is being 100% truthful. It is human nature to modify narrative to suit one’s own purpose if necessary…even if it isn’t necessary, people have a tendency to still change or omit facts to suit their “needs” (generally, to make themselves look better and others look worse).

      • historiophiliac - Jul 2, 2013 at 9:50 AM

        How many times do you think Craig wanted to shower after writing “According to TMZ…”?

      • paperlions - Jul 2, 2013 at 9:55 AM

        I suspect he’ll just be blogging from the shower the rest of the day.

  3. tferr85 - Jul 2, 2013 at 8:04 AM

    I really don’t get baseball. Why do they want to drag there own players through the mud like this?

    Do we really expect that suspensions will result from this? I don’t.

    • paperlions - Jul 2, 2013 at 8:31 AM

      I agree. It is odd. The players and the on-field product they provide are the basis for 100% of baseball revenue, and the owners seem hell-bent on dragging down the popularity of the product that makes them billions of dollars.

      • chip56 - Jul 2, 2013 at 9:20 AM

        Except the part you’re forgetting is that the clean players don’t want the dirty ones tainting their accomplishments.

        Tim Hudson for example: “Well, I’m going to be honest with you, I’m pretty sick of hearing about it. I’m pretty sick of people still trying to cheat the system and trying to get an unfair advantage. I think the penalties can be stiffer. I’m ready for it to be over and done with and whatever the penalties are to keep people from doing it.”

        Mark Teixeira: “Most guys are on the same page generally,” Teixeira said. “I don’t ever want a kid to look at me and say, he just hit three homers in a game, he’s probably on steroids. That’s just a tough thing and it’s a part of our job, been part of baseball for a long time, but we just have to in our minds know we’re doing everything possible we can .”

      • paperlions - Jul 2, 2013 at 9:26 AM

        I’m not forgetting that. The players current attitude toward PED users has no bearing whatsoever on MLB’s actions.

        Tim Hudson is old enough that he was part of the generation that helped protect PED users and fought tooth and nail against any kind of testing.

      • chip56 - Jul 2, 2013 at 9:33 AM

        Actually the players’ current attitudes has a lot to do with MLB actions.

        Do you hear any players making a stink about a witch hunt? Do you hear any players saying that MLB should just leave these guys alone?

        Outside of David Ortiz saying that the testing was unfair to Dominicans because they don’t speak English well enough to know what they’re taking, players have been on board with this policy in lock-step with MLB.

        The Players want this because they know that it’s good for them and good for the league as a whole to remove suspicion from the game. That’s why they allowed for it to be included in the CBA. That’s why they agreed to a policy that doesn’t just punish someone who fails a test but punishes someone who has a tangible connection to PEDs (such as being the client of someone like Bosch)

      • koufaxmitzvah - Jul 2, 2013 at 10:37 AM

        I don’t trust anybody to define what a Dirty Player, since usually the people accusing others of being dirty have absolutely no evidence to back it up.

        And I mean real evidence. Not hearsay. Not some blog post. Not some handwritten note in a notebook belonging to somebody who actually believes that Aging is a disease.

      • DelawarePhilliesFan - Jul 2, 2013 at 11:35 AM

        You have to have propriety in the product. Either PED’s have to be allowed across the board, or they have to be banned across the board. And if they are banned across the board, you have to take steps to not only keep them out, but deter people from doing it in the first place. Its that simple. Forget what they do, forget the moraility, forget what Player X “would have done” without them, forget all that. You either allow them, or you take steps to keep it out.

        Now, within that context, there is ample reason to disagree on methods of keeping out PED’s and how effective a method. But I totally diasgree MLB is dragging anything though the mud. They are in mud already because thye truned a blind eye for so long. So either allow PED’s, or take the painful and ugly steps to get rid of them.

        Besides, the NFL is place for caring about the bottom line only

      • paperlions - Jul 2, 2013 at 1:00 PM

        I know….but they have taken steps. A testing program that catches guys every year. There is no “need” to chase down every possible lead associated with the 1200 players on 40 man rosters and to go to these extra-ordinary lengths. You have a testing program…if you don’t think it works or is sufficient, that is a different problem.

      • skids003 - Jul 2, 2013 at 12:55 PM

        Koufax, again I agree with you. Twice in less than 7 days. I would like to see hard evidence too.

        Aging may not be a disease, but I like it just as little.

    • chip56 - Jul 2, 2013 at 9:17 AM

      MLB is doing this because they’re tired of all their players being under suspicion. If they can penalize Alex, Braun, Cruz, Melky and the rest associated with this then the hope (for them) is that people will finally say, “the system works,” and let the accomplishments of the players who do not fail tests or get caught up in messes like this stand on their own without the “what drug is he on” questions that are currently surrounding a guy like Chris Davis.

      The other aspect of it is that they are trying to prove to Congress that they’re serious about cleaning up the game to prevent more hearings like the ones they had after Canseco’s book came out.

      They actually need to do this to prove that they’re not just going after some token minor leaguers or has-beens but are willing to target franchise stars and treat everyone the same.

      • cdeangelus - Jul 2, 2013 at 9:34 AM

        The last thing this Biogenesis case makes me think is that “the system works.”

      • chip56 - Jul 2, 2013 at 9:44 AM

        Craig can confirm that there’s an old adage that says the two things people never want to see made are sausages and the law.

        We don’t have to like the process but if the result is that players who violated the CBA’s provision on drug use serve their penalties (or have those penalties overturned by appeal) then the system has worked.

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Jul 2, 2013 at 9:58 AM

        but if the result is that players who violated the CBA’s provision on drug use serve their penalties (or have those penalties overturned by appeal) then the system has worked.

        Except why would this happen now? Plenty of players have been caught under the system, and we still get comments like these*

        crackersnap:
        I’m not jumping on any Davis-juicing bandwagon, but anybody who thinks the MLB testing program is authoritative is a fool.

        bigharold:
        But that’s true everywhere. MLB’s program is anything but robust.

        So what makes you think that Biogenesis is going to finally stop all these claims?

        http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/07/01/here-come-the-chris-davis-ped-suspicions/comment-page-1/#comments

      • chip56 - Jul 2, 2013 at 10:05 AM

        It’s not going to fully stop it immediately; but that doesn’t mean MLB should stop trying to clean up the game.

        The league and players both dug this hole and now they’re trying to crawl out of it. The only way to do that is to show the lengths they will go to in order to try and not only catch, but punish, players who violate the system.

  4. jm91rs - Jul 2, 2013 at 8:35 AM

    Money talks. Sadly it does not always tell the truth.

  5. dondada10 - Jul 2, 2013 at 9:10 AM

    Threats to his safety? Was MLB gonna bring Johnny Boy Franco out of the pen to “talk to him?”

  6. historiophiliac - Jul 2, 2013 at 9:35 AM

    What do you want to bet that “consultant fee” comes with unlimited tanning?

  7. onbucky96 - Jul 2, 2013 at 9:55 AM

    Snitches get stitches. Not good news if you’re still a fan of the Milwaukee Brewers(see Braun, Ryan). Oh well, Go Pack Go and On Wisconsin. Brew Crew is done this year

  8. 13arod - Jul 2, 2013 at 10:22 AM

    chip56 they already said they aren’t going to suspend melky and colon because they served there suspensions last year

  9. uwsptke - Jul 2, 2013 at 11:05 AM

    So if MLB pays Porter Fischer a “consulting fee” and he writes their names down and money owed on a piece of paper… will MLB suspend itself for PED use?

  10. jimeejohnson - Jul 2, 2013 at 2:17 PM

    Major League Baseball obviously never met Donald My Mother’s an Orangatan Trump, Justin Bieber, or Aaron Hernandez.

  11. stercuilus65 - Jul 2, 2013 at 6:43 PM

    Cry Craig, cry!

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