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Chris Davis considers Roger Maris to be the single-season home run king

Jul 5, 2013, 4:50 PM EDT

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Well, this certainly kills those “he must be juicing” narratives. From the Baltimore Sports Report, who heard Chris Davis on Mike and Mike this morning:

Davis, who has openly been questioned by fans and reporters about using performance enhancing drugs, told ESPN’s Mike and Mike that he still views Maris as the single-season home run king.

“I do and the reason being, he was the last guy to do it clean,” Davis said. “There’s a lot of things that have been said about the guys who have come after him and you know and have achieved the record, but I think as far as the fans are concerned they still view Maris as being the all-time home run record [holder] and I think you have to.”

Or … maybe he’s just saying this to make us THINK he’s clean. Yes, this is EXACTLY what a roider would say!

Gosh, I just don’t know what to think anymore.

  1. mybrunoblog - Jul 5, 2013 at 4:59 PM

    “Chris Davis considers Roger Maris to be the single season home run king”
    I agree and tell Davis Hank Aaron is still the all time HR leader.

    • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Jul 5, 2013 at 5:08 PM

      Except Aaron used PEDs as well, so Babe Ruth, come on down!

      • dondada10 - Jul 5, 2013 at 5:45 PM

        But Babe Ruth played in an all-white league.

        And out of nowhere, Willie Mays is the All-Time Home Run King!

      • cocheese000 - Jul 5, 2013 at 5:47 PM

        Never understand why people never talk about Aaron using amphetamines. He is a cheater to me.

      • Reflex - Jul 5, 2013 at 5:58 PM

        Um, Mays used amphetamines too, so yeah, I don’t think we have a home run king…

      • cocheese000 - Jul 5, 2013 at 6:10 PM

        Ken Griffey jr the hr king now?

      • hittfamily - Jul 5, 2013 at 6:42 PM

        Ruth drank beer during prohibition and visited whorehouses. Derek Jeter is the new HR champ.

      • nothanksimdriving123 - Jul 5, 2013 at 6:53 PM

        I don’t know if Hank took PEDs, but however he coped with the ceaseless barrage of racist hate mail and death threats to himself and his family is OK with me. His 715th remains one of the most joyous moments I’ve ever seen in sports.

      • badintent - Jul 5, 2013 at 11:52 PM

        I got Hank Greenberg as all time HR king. He had to deal with tons of Anti-Semitic hate and a huge ballpark and still hit 58 in one season. And no Atlanta “launch pad of a stadium” to hit in for half the season.And he lost 3 years to the Army in WW II.

      • chunkala - Jul 6, 2013 at 12:11 AM

        Babe Ruth played in all white league but do remember that they were the best white athletes available. Nowadays this is unclear since MLB has NFL, NBA, NHL to contend with.

      • uncledrew22 - Jul 6, 2013 at 12:58 PM

        Do you have documentation Aaron used PEDS? You’re tripping. Aaron is the HR King, not Bonds or Ruth.

      • uncledrew22 - Jul 6, 2013 at 1:03 PM

        Next thing you’ll be telling us is Miguel Cabrera, the game’s best hitter now, is on the juice.

    • sabatimus - Jul 5, 2013 at 7:16 PM

      These arguments show precisely why records are stupid.

  2. aidanscawley - Jul 5, 2013 at 4:59 PM

    The juice records certainly do take some of the fun out of the “chasing 61″ narrative. So when he says the fans still look at Maris’ number as the record, I’m not sure that it’s quite the same. Still, hats off.

  3. chacochicken - Jul 5, 2013 at 4:59 PM

    But Maris did it in 162 game season and he was high on PCP the whole time. Prove me wrong.

    • Reflex - Jul 5, 2013 at 6:00 PM

      Given the fact that his 1961 season was a major statistical outlier for his career(never even hit 40HR’s in any other season, and 30+ only twice), I say test him posthumously for drugs.

      I hear that’s the only reason outlier seasons happen after all, so hey lets snap to! We can’t sully the game with all these unresolved accusations!

      /sarcasm

    • bdl502 - Jul 5, 2013 at 9:37 PM

      There were 154 games in the 1961 season. That was easy.

      • chacochicken - Jul 5, 2013 at 9:40 PM

        This was the first season that the American League played a 162-game schedule. The N.L. played 154. Keep trying.

      • nbjays - Jul 5, 2013 at 9:47 PM

        Um… if there were 154 games in the 1961 season, then why would there be an asterisk?

        You really should think before posting.

  4. djstat - Jul 5, 2013 at 5:02 PM

    Well has he been tested this year? Yes? Maybe he is clean

  5. hittfamily - Jul 5, 2013 at 5:03 PM

    I consider Maris to be the single season title holder as well. Those who don’t should also still consider Rosie Ruiz to be a Boston Marathon champ. Cheating is cheating. Technically it wasn’t against baseball’s rules. It was against federal law though. Having your neighbor fly to your opponents city and kidnap tomorrow’s starter is cheating too, although there is nothing in baseball’s rulebook that says you can’t. The feds might disagree though.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosie_Ruiz

    • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Jul 5, 2013 at 5:09 PM

      So you also don’t consider Hank Aaron to have broken Ruth’s record, since he took a substance that was against federal law?

      Brave man you are…

      • braddavery - Jul 5, 2013 at 5:12 PM

        Keep beating that dead horse. And while you are at it, show us the proof that Aaron was using PEDs instead of simply saying it and acting like it’s true. It’s common knowledge that many players of his era used greenies, but I’ll wait for you to prove he did to back up your statement.

      • chacochicken - Jul 5, 2013 at 5:22 PM

        I could be wrong but didn’t Hank admit to taking amphetamines in his autobiography?

      • braddavery - Jul 5, 2013 at 5:25 PM

        He very well could have. I haven’t read it.

      • braddavery - Jul 5, 2013 at 5:31 PM

        Amphetamines were not banned by baseball until 2006, steroids were banned in 1991. So say what you will about Aaron, but unless there was a super secret ban on greenies and/or steroids while he was playing, his records wouldn’t be tarnished even IF he used greenies and/or anabolic steroids.

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Jul 5, 2013 at 5:38 PM

        you are wrong again. Vincent recently admitted in an interview with sbnation how ’91 decree was meaningless. so if your only rationale behind saying bonds numbers are illegitimate is due to federal law, you have to discount Aaron for the same.

      • hittfamily - Jul 5, 2013 at 5:43 PM

        “Brave man you are…”.

        Personal attack? On an internet message board? Shocking! You clearly are tougher than me.

        Brothels were illegal in Ruth’s times, as was booze for some of it. You want to throw out his records too church? Things that illegally grow your muscles are different than things that illegally keep you awake. I also don’t think Brett Favre’s numbers should be thrown out because he took pain killers without a doctors prescription.

        Benefitting from illegal strength > Perceived benefits form being more alert in the case of Mays and Araron or perceived benefits of being less stressed because of hookers and booze in Ruth’s case.

      • chacochicken - Jul 5, 2013 at 5:57 PM

        Amphetamines do a heck of a lot more than “keep you awake”. They are a serious performance enhancer. Why do you think this sudden professional athlete ADD/ADHD phenomenon has occurred? Adderall, class II controlled substance featuring amphetamines.

      • hittfamily - Jul 5, 2013 at 6:15 PM

        I am aware a lot of players use adderall. I think it is a perceived benefit on the field. Studying for a test: Beneficial, because you can pull an all nighter and won’t fall asleep. Baseball field: Beneficial, because you won’t fall asleep during an at bat?

        Just because a lot of baseball players do something, does not mean it is beneficial. Baseball players also wear special necklaces because of a “special energy” they bring. My grandpa wears a copper bracelet because it decreases his arthritis (and cures cancer, decreases likelyhood of contracting aids). My daughter wears a garlic clove around her neck to keep the bad guys from “Twilight” away. My wife insists on having a live plant in our bedroom because of Japanese “Chee” or something.

        Perception is different than reality. The reality is steroids and HGH causes muscles to grow larger than they naturally would, resulting in more strength. The reality is amphetamines increase energy levels, causing players to not be bored while playing 4 hour Sawx – Yanks games on ESPN. One is cheating. One is using an illegal substance that makes life more tolerable.

      • chacochicken - Jul 5, 2013 at 6:27 PM

        Its been well established that amphetamines give a significant performance enhancing benefit while anabolic steroids allow for a much quicker recovery. HGH does not appear to have any performance enhancing benefit whatsoever. I had labral repair of my left hip last year. Same doc that did Brian Roberts and I discussed HGH with him at length. Ask Cur, he works with this stuff at length.

    • hittfamily - Jul 5, 2013 at 5:22 PM

      Do you still believe Joe Paterno is the rightful owner of the NCAA career victories mark? I have read the NCAA handbook and there is nothing in there about covering up the rape and sodomy of kids by your defensive coodinator in order to not be able to recruit as well.

      • hittfamily - Jul 5, 2013 at 5:23 PM

        damn. wrong reply button. This snarky remark was meant for church.

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Jul 5, 2013 at 5:39 PM

        why is that directed at me? I’m not the one making these asinine arguments.

      • hittfamily - Jul 5, 2013 at 5:45 PM

        “So you also don’t consider Hank Aaron to have broken Ruth’s record, since he took a substance that was against federal law?

        Brave man you are…”

        It was correctly aimed at you.

    • kardshark1 - Jul 5, 2013 at 6:04 PM

      Against Federal Law? Man, people with an agenda sure do grasp at straws when trying to satisfy their narrative. You know what, it’s against Federal Law to put on a helmet and run full speed into somebody. I guess every rushing NFL record should be thrown out. It’s also against Federal Law to wear sharpened spikes on your shoes and purposely stab people with them. I guess every SB record should be thrown out. Cheating is breaking the rules, that’s all. I’m willing to bet that Maris and Mantle broke way more “Federal Laws” in their day than Bonds and his ilk ever did. Think about all the times Mantle admittedly drank and drove – that’s against Federal Law. For some reason it kills people that their childhood heroes were bested. The fact is, most players were using PEDs before they were banned just like most of us would have too in the same situation. It doesn’t make them cheaters or evil, it just makes them normal. Maris still had a great season, it’s just that Bonds’ was much better, deal with it. And before you say it, save it — I know, I know, you wouldn’t have taken PEDs, and neither would have any of your childhood baseball heroes. You and them are so morally superior to everyone else.

      • hittfamily - Jul 5, 2013 at 6:17 PM

        This is one of the dumbest things I have ever read.

      • ezthinking - Jul 5, 2013 at 6:54 PM

        ^^^ Quite sure that was the dumbest thing I read. Well, within the last two hours for sure.

      • badintent - Jul 6, 2013 at 12:00 AM

        There is NO federal law that covers drinking and driving. State and city laws do. I know guys that drove tanks hopped on Greenies in the Iraq wars. How else to stay awake for 38 hours. ?? Starbucks coffee ? I don’t think so.Truckers take greenies to drive cross country. Get over it.
        My friend drank 3 Red Bulls a day to drive oil equipment to the Yukon. Better than greenies.He says

      • pd14athletics - Jul 6, 2013 at 12:10 AM

        Never see Rickey Henderson play? Always slid head first. Believed he got to the bag faster that way, head first and half his body going “through” the bag. Come on, use that reference and he is the SB king?

      • blacksables - Jul 6, 2013 at 5:41 AM

        “There is NO federal law that covers drinking and driving”

        Ever been a federal employee? Particularly living in another country?

        Try again.

      • nbjays - Jul 6, 2013 at 8:19 AM

        I dunno about you, blacksables, but anytime I was in another country as a “federal employee” (i.e. military), I was first and foremost subject to the laws of that country, not my own.

  6. chacochicken - Jul 5, 2013 at 5:30 PM

    You know, for what its worth, Roger Maris was much maligned for hitting 61. Since he only had 59 in 154 games MLB decided that he would get and * beside his total and good ole Babe was still the Home Run King. Lots of people hated him for breaking or psuedo-breaking the record. I suppose it is irony that folks today now defend him and attack Bonds.

    • braddavery - Jul 5, 2013 at 5:33 PM

      How is it ironic. Maris didn’t cheat to get the record.

      • chacochicken - Jul 5, 2013 at 5:50 PM

        I’m not going to define irony but in his later years Maris wished he hadn’t hit 61 or even come close because of all the undeserved hate he received. By the same token, had Bonds not myopically determined that he had to be the home run record holder he’d be walking into the Hall of Fame.

      • Reflex - Jul 5, 2013 at 6:05 PM

        How do you know that he didn’t? 61HR in a season was a major aberration for Maris. Steroids were in common use among athletes in the 60′s. So were amphetamines. Based on the accusations against Bautista, Davis and others, why are people assuming Maris was clean?

      • braddavery - Jul 5, 2013 at 6:47 PM

        What do you mean “How do you know he didn’t?”

        That is probably the most worthless statement anyone can ever make about anything. It’s completely meaningless. How do I know you aren’t a robot made of Fruit Rollups?

      • ezthinking - Jul 5, 2013 at 7:21 PM

        Check out this http://thinksteroids.com/articles/history-anabolic-steroids-sports/

        Then realize that the steroids still used now, Deca Durabolin and the like exploded in the 1950′s. Look up the articles on the 1968 Mexico City Olympics. The IOC started testing because the steroid problem was so bad. The call came to GENDER test some women participants about the time Hank Aaron was heading for the the HR record.

        Heroin, coke, morphine, all legal during part of Ruth’s time. Do you think he/they stopped when it was pulled off the pharmacy shelf?

        Take off the rose colored glasses.

        9 What has been will be again,
        what has been done will be done again;
        there is nothing new under the sun.

        10 Is there anything of which one can say,
        “Look! This is something new”?
        It was here already, long ago;
        it was here before our time.

        That was written a couple thousand years ago. It’s in Ecclesiastes 1.

      • braddavery - Jul 5, 2013 at 7:28 PM

        I don’t see anyone proclaiming that no one is juicing in MLB.

    • mazblast - Jul 5, 2013 at 8:12 PM

      It didn’t help matters that the Commissioner then was Ford Frick, former PR man for Babe Ruth.

  7. cocheese000 - Jul 5, 2013 at 5:50 PM

    Davis should go on sports center or MLB network and do a live piss test. If he tests clean I think he should be allowed to throw the piss at all of the reporters that are saying he is juicing.

    • hittfamily - Jul 5, 2013 at 5:59 PM

      Ha! Rick Reilly wrote a garbage piece on someone one time about roids, and I remember thinking I’d go on Jim Rome, and invite every media member to have exclusive access to my urine. If I fail, it is a career making story. If I pass, he has to drink it. I don’t think there would be too many takers.

      • cocheese000 - Jul 5, 2013 at 6:11 PM

        Is this Larry Hitt

    • chacochicken - Jul 5, 2013 at 5:59 PM

      Now this is my kind of crazy. I second the piss tossing.

      • heyblueyoustink - Jul 5, 2013 at 6:22 PM

        He would have to save months of urine and shoot it out of a fire hose to the media stooges accusing him to satisfy my personal sick sense of justice

      • chacochicken - Jul 5, 2013 at 6:29 PM

        It just so happens that I’ve been storing my own urine gallon jugs for the last 17 years. I’m willing to let all of 2004 go since it would be a good cause.

      • heyblueyoustink - Jul 5, 2013 at 8:50 PM

        Was 2004 a good year? I’m already a scotch snob, why not become a piss snob. And has it been properly stored?

      • chacochicken - Jul 5, 2013 at 9:39 PM

        ’04 was a bad year which is good for piss throwing. As for “properly stored”, it’s in gallon glass jugs in my basement that occasionally floods, so yes.

  8. jayscarpa - Jul 5, 2013 at 5:56 PM

    Everyone associated with MLB – from fellow players to owners to the commissioner – knew about steroids and didn’t do anything about it. That’s tacit support. To now say that players don’t deserve the numbers they put up after supporting the behavior is disingenuous. Everybody put up their numbers fair and square in different eras under different conditions. We can bitch about it but the numbers do not change.

    • thinkfirstthenspeak - Jul 5, 2013 at 6:44 PM

      In 1998, as McGwire was chasing 61, Davis was in middle school. In 2001, when Bonds hit 73, he was in high school. He wasn’t drafted until after Selig commissioned Mitchell. Just what and when was Davis supposed to “do anything about it”? Or are only people who never were associated with baseball allowed to have opinions about baseball?

      • jayscarpa - Jul 5, 2013 at 6:58 PM

        “We can bitch about it ……”

        I think that’s pretty clear.

  9. bmoreravens1012013 - Jul 5, 2013 at 5:57 PM

    You killing them Craig! Good job bro!

  10. offseasonblues - Jul 5, 2013 at 6:34 PM

    In answer to the headline, so do I, Chris, so do I. And Maris went through media hell that season, so steel yourself and go for it.

  11. 13arod - Jul 5, 2013 at 6:53 PM

    mybrunoblog Barry bonds passed him if you haven’t noticed

    • nbjays - Jul 5, 2013 at 9:56 PM

      Not legitimately, but nice try.

  12. jrobitaille23 - Jul 5, 2013 at 7:00 PM

    Yes, Davis does sound like someone who wants people to think he’s clean by coming out so strongly against the previous cheater’s records i.e. Bonds, Sammy, MM, Griffey (yes tools..he used too). At the same time, he is making a case that since he is on pace to beat Maris…that he should then be considered the new Home Run king as he is clean. Ha ha. Yeah right buddy. Let’s give him blood tests each week till the end of the season and we’ll see if he is clean. Oh..his numbers would dip precipitously? Of course they would. But then you apologists would then claim it’d due to normal wear and tear and second half swoons. Ha ha. I’ve never heard so much b.s. banter. Are you all Orioles fans?

    • braddavery - Jul 5, 2013 at 7:32 PM

      Yeah. Screw all these idiots for thinking that people are innocent before proven guilty. The glass is always half empty! All players who have never been linked in any way, shape or form are guilty of cheating because, well, they haven’t been proven not to be cheaters! #negativeoutlook #guiltybeforeproveninnocent #everythingisasworseascanbe #alwaysexpecttheworstinpeople

    • Tim OShenko - Jul 5, 2013 at 7:43 PM

      Yes, we are. All of us. And we love our delicious PEDs, too. More steroids for everybody!

  13. 13arod - Jul 5, 2013 at 7:55 PM

    jrobitaille23 they don’t know if Sammy Sosa used steroids

  14. ningenito78 - Jul 5, 2013 at 8:08 PM

    Well, this certainly kills those “he must be juicing” narratives.

    God you are such a top flight douche.

  15. dankpuffalot - Jul 5, 2013 at 9:40 PM

    The only thing I learned from this is jrobitaille is an idiot.

  16. cohnjusack - Jul 5, 2013 at 11:56 PM

    Uggg…this is beyond stupid.

    3 people hit more than 61 home runs in a season. Those home runs counted toward the scores of games. If we are counting the games, how are we not attributing those home runs to the individual?

    Steroids happened. Denying it doesn’t change anything.

  17. louhudson23 - Jul 6, 2013 at 10:11 AM

    Remember when greenies were so prevalent and the record book was shredded by the players who took them….?? No,me either….

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