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Rangers now “only one of many teams” in on Matt Garza

Jul 21, 2013, 11:08 AM EDT

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CBS Sports’ Jon Heyman has the exclusive:

The Rangers and Cubs were set back on the Matt Garza talks to the point where the Rangers are now viewed as only one of many teams now in the mix for the star righthander.

The impressions left now is Texas and Chicago made no progress in overcoming the snag that derailed a deal for Garza Friday night — though the Rangers aren’t eliminated as both sides are still looking for deals.

The offer that was being discussed on Friday night involved Rangers prospects Mike Olt, C.J. Edwards and Neil Ramirez. It’s not clear why the discussions suddenly fell apart, though Jim Bowden of SiriusXM suspects that it had something to do with the physical exams and specifically Ramirez’s shoulder.

Garza, 29, has registered a solid 3.17 ERA, 1.14 WHIP and 62/20 K/BB ratio across 71 innings (11 starts) this season for fourth-place Chicago. He is scheduled to hit the free agent market this November.

Garza’s next turn in the Cubs’ rotation is Monday, so expect trade talks to heat up over the next 24 hours.

  1. Al - Jul 21, 2013 at 11:38 AM

    Maybe the Tribe will be willing to part with Lonnie now that he’s cost them 2 straight games due to errors.

  2. wpjohnson - Jul 21, 2013 at 11:52 AM

    Excellent. Maybe the Rangers will be saved from making a terrible mistake.

  3. Blackhawks5xchamps - Jul 21, 2013 at 11:56 AM

    Do what we have to do to grab the best players back. Doesn’t matter who its from. Garza is a beast. I don’t know why anyone wouldn’t want this guy for a playoff run.

    • wpjohnson - Jul 21, 2013 at 1:05 PM

      Garza may well be a “beast”- whatever that means. Unfortunately, he is not a top of the line pitcher as is needed by the Rangers. So, why trade three top prospects to rent someone for two months who will leade you to nothing?

      • paperlions - Jul 21, 2013 at 1:26 PM

        Has Garza ever received a single CY vote? Realizing that CY voting is imperfect, any pitcher that is in any way beast-like would receive some CY votes from someone. I am pretty sure he has never appeared on a single ballot.

        Mediocre pitchers are invited to the ASG every year, Garza has never been invited to an ASG. I am pretty sure that any beast-like pitcher would have been invited to at least one ASG by the time he was 30.

      • 84cubs - Jul 21, 2013 at 1:51 PM

        In the real world its called supply and demand. IF a pitcher who has received a “Cy vote” or “ASG” considerations such as Cliff Lee becomes available, then the Cubs don’t get what they want. Until then, Garza is it. That’s why the Cubs are trying to get this done this weekend.

      • paperlions - Jul 21, 2013 at 3:27 PM

        Supply and demand doesn’t change what Garza is….just because he’s the best available pitcher doesn’t mean he’s a beast…or resembles an ace in any way. Throughout his career he’s been a slightly above average durable starting pitcher, which is both valuable and nice to have…but not really a playoff run difference maker.

  4. bigherm74 - Jul 21, 2013 at 12:47 PM

    The Rangers are silly to not get Garza. He’s pitched in big games with Tampa Bay in their WS run. He also did really well versus the AL East schedule. He has shown up and been straight dominate. You add him with Yu and throw in Holland and company and you might just have the second best rotation behind Tampa and pitching wins the ring just ask SF.

  5. whitesoxman77 - Jul 21, 2013 at 1:00 PM

    Seriously? All the guys saying that this a mistake for the Rangers need to calm you Garza-boners. Why would Daniels trade three of their top fifteen prospects, one being their top prospect, for a rental player? In addition, there is no guarantee that the Rangers could retain him past October. If I’m Jon Daniels, which I’m not, I’m not trading Olt unless I get a pitchers with more controllable years, or at least a better injury history.

    • jeffbbf - Jul 21, 2013 at 9:30 PM

      Really? You’re wetting yourself over Mike Olt? He turns 25 in August. He’s batting .207 in the PCL, while striking out 33% of the time. And more than 2/3rd of his at bats this year have come since his vision problem was fixed. Sounds like rental player-fodder to me.

  6. Jackson Scofield - Jul 21, 2013 at 1:11 PM

    @whitesoxman77, because players have typically netted better returns since the new CBA came out and they need a pitcher to help them catch Oakland and for the playoffs. They know how valuable the division is now after losing the sudden death single elimination game to Baltimore last year.

  7. sometogethernow - Jul 21, 2013 at 5:46 PM

    What I haven’t seen answered in the discussion is why the Cubs would have wanted a Rangers package built around a 3B/1B prospect to begin with. They just drafted a 3B second overall, they recently signed their young 1B to a long-term contract, and they have another infield prospect who might move to third. It surprises me a little that Olt would be in the deal.

    • Blackhawks5xchamps - Jul 24, 2013 at 5:28 PM

      I think he was more of a “throw in” player. the Cubs were looking more at C.J. Edwards and Ramirez than anything.

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