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Rangers acquire Matt Garza from Cubs for Mike Olt, C.J. Edwards, and Justin Grimm

Jul 22, 2013, 5:03 PM EDT

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UPDATE: Rosenthal now says it’s a done deal, with the Cubs sending Garza to the Rangers for Triple-A third base prospect Mike Olt, Single-A pitching prospect C.J. Edwards, MLB right-hander Justin Grimm, and a player to be named later.

Olt was a consensus top-50 prospect coming into the season and Edwards has been unbelievably good at Single-A as a 21-year-old, so regardless of what you think of Grimm’s mid-rotation potential that’s a damn good haul for what’s essentially two months of Garza. And the Rangers have added a frontline starter for a potential playoff run.

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With trade rumors swirling Cubs manager Dale Sveum was asked yesterday if Matt Garza would still be around to make his scheduled start tonight and replied: “I’d say 100 percent he’s going to be pitching.”

Sveum then immediately put into question his concept of “100 percent” by adding that “if we get a phone call and something changes, that’s the way it is.” And apparently that’s exactly what happened, because Ken Rosenthal of FOXSports.com reports that Garza will not start for the Cubs tonight and the long-rumored trade to the Rangers is finally “near.”

  1. proudlycanadian - Jul 22, 2013 at 5:05 PM

    Obviously, the trade is 99% done.

    • hittfamily - Jul 22, 2013 at 5:29 PM

      A sweep at the hands of the O’s makes 99% 100%.

      • proudlycanadian - Jul 22, 2013 at 5:30 PM

        Good point.

  2. flamethrower101 - Jul 22, 2013 at 5:11 PM

    When will Dale Sveum learn to “Shut the f*** up?”

    • 18thstreet - Jul 22, 2013 at 5:17 PM

      Um, don’t you think it’s possible he was lying in order to press the Rangers into closing the deal?

      • historiophiliac - Jul 22, 2013 at 5:19 PM

        He probably sends himself flowers too.

    • blackandbluedivision - Jul 22, 2013 at 5:28 PM

      because if he didn’t say anything. People would get suspicious and assume Garza would be traded. Then be angry when he makes the start…saying he “lied”

      • fanofevilempire - Jul 22, 2013 at 5:58 PM

        all Sveum had to say was that was above his pay scale!

  3. spudchukar - Jul 22, 2013 at 5:13 PM

    Whew!!!!!

  4. uyf1950 - Jul 22, 2013 at 5:14 PM

    Interesting. Garza will be a FA at the end of the year unless the Rangers sign him to a long term deal before then since the Rangers aren’t able to make him a qualifying offer and receive a draft pick. Very interesting. I guess Peavy is the next domino to fall.

  5. wpjohnson - Jul 22, 2013 at 5:19 PM

    Probably the dumbest trade since the Teixeira trade by the Braves. Why give up so much to rent a, at best, number three starter for two months? Really stupid. If the Rangers do make the playoffs Garza will have nothing to do with it and they will bow out just as they did last year.

    I thought Nolan Ryan was smarter than John Schuerholz. I was wrong. Goodbye Rangers.

    • hittfamily - Jul 22, 2013 at 5:27 PM

      Lots of scouts don’t think Olt will make it in the bigs. “Slow bat” has been used a fair amount to describe him. What do the Rangers need their 3rd string 3rd baseman for anyways?

      • wpjohnson - Jul 22, 2013 at 5:38 PM

        Lots of scouts didn’t think Andrus would be a regular shortstop. And many of those same dumb scouts thought the Teixeira trade was a great move by the Braves. Those scouts were stupid.

        Let’s see about Olt. He has never been given a chance before. The Cubs robbed the bank in this trade.

        The rental of Garza will do nothing for the Rangers. But, the Cubs hit the jackpot- an everyday third baseman and two arms for their rotation. Two month rental versus long term additions.

        Poor dumb Rangers. They gained nothing.

    • geoknows - Jul 22, 2013 at 5:35 PM

      Nolan Ryan was neutered by the Rangers org earlier this year. He is merely a figurehead with no power now. Blame Jon Daniels if you want to lay blame.

      • paperlions - Jul 22, 2013 at 5:41 PM

        Nolan Ryan has never been in charge of baseball decisions for the Rangers.

      • hittfamily - Jul 22, 2013 at 5:41 PM

        Nolan is directly responsible for this trade. Remember all the “modern day pitchers are pussies” mumbo jumbo, and how he didn’t believe in pitch counts or inning limits on young arms. 6 maybe 7 Ranger pitchers on the DL, and 4 Tommy John surgeries later, I wonder if he still believes that.

      • paperlions - Jul 22, 2013 at 8:14 PM

        No, he isn’t. Ryan used to have to rubber stamp transactions….but he has never been in charge of personnel decisions, the draft, development, trade negotiations, or anything else. Yes, I’m sure he gave opinions, but Daniels has always been the guy calling the shots….and now he doesn’t even need Ryan’s rubber stamp to make trades.

    • jgillmeister - Jul 22, 2013 at 6:01 PM

      Clearly, you’re not a good judge of talent. everyone considers Garza a #2 starter at worst, and that he could still be a number one.

      • spudchukar - Jul 22, 2013 at 6:12 PM

        Went through this a couple of days ago. By way of baseballtraderumors, most baseball execs consider Garza a strong #3. Which is about right, jgill.

      • wpjohnson - Jul 22, 2013 at 7:13 PM

        Really? And who is “everyone”? Your same “everyone” thought the Rangers would benefit from the Dempster trade. Guess what? “Everyone” was wrong.

        Do you base your opinions on your knowledge or do you depend on “everyone’?

        Let’s wait until October and see just who is a “good judge of talent”. It won’t be your faceless “everyone”.

    • loubearkane - Jul 22, 2013 at 6:47 PM

      I’m a Cubs fan and am shocked they were able to get or are able to get for such a nice haul of young players for a pitcher * IF STAYS HEALTHY will pitch 12 times

  6. thebadguyswon - Jul 22, 2013 at 5:19 PM

    Holy seller’s market. What an overpay.

  7. wpjohnson - Jul 22, 2013 at 5:22 PM

    Will the Cubs be charged with grand theft? Will Jon Daniels be committed? Poor dumb Rangers. And, for those who will now like this fiasco, let’s see who is right in October.

  8. hittfamily - Jul 22, 2013 at 5:24 PM

    Wow! Now I feel like Dayton fleeced us Rays fans in the offseason! Nice pickup by Theo. A much larger return than I expected. After watching Chris Archer dazzle in the bigs this year, Cubbies fans should be thankful to recover as much as they did in that deal. Will Olt be the next Longo/Machado, or will he be the next Middlebrooks/Moustakas? Only time will tell, but Theo has always had a good eye for young talent. Old, broken down talent…….not so much!

    • jonrox - Jul 22, 2013 at 5:28 PM

      You imply Middlebrooks is a bust, yet give Theo Epstein credit for having an eye for talent in the same post. You understand my confusion, right?

      • hittfamily - Jul 22, 2013 at 5:32 PM

        No. He turned a 5th rounder into a talented major leaguer. The new regime turned a talented major leaguer into a farm hand. Bard too.

    • paperlions - Jul 22, 2013 at 5:47 PM

      No one has ever put Olt in the same category as Longo or Machado.

      On July 1, 2017, Manny Machado will be the same age Olt is today….and Machado is likely already far superior to whatever it is Olt turns into. Olt has major contact issues and alway has. He’ll be lucky to max out as an average-ish 3B with a power-only (low BA and low OBP) bat with solid defense.

      • hittfamily - Jul 22, 2013 at 5:55 PM

        All five were on every respectable top 50 prospect list, so lots of people have put them in the same category. Saying otherwise isn’t true.

        Wieters was ranked higher than Posey on lists. Wade Davis was ranked higher than Jeremy Hellickson on most lists. Arguing over the difference of placement on such list is semantics. Longo, Machado, Middlebrooks, Moustakis, Olt were all on the same list.

      • paperlions - Jul 22, 2013 at 6:00 PM

        Thinking that being in the top 50 represents being the same category is silly….and if you really think that rankings in and of themselves represent prospect value or player potential, well…then don’t. Many said the Rangers should have sold Olt last year because they thought the hype was through the roof and unwarranted. Olt is about to turn 25 and has done exactly jack squat. He’s far more likely to turn into Mat Gamal than an above average MLB player.

      • wpjohnson - Jul 22, 2013 at 7:16 PM

        You know, no one ever put Garza in the same category as Kershaw and Harvey. And, guess what, both of them are far younger than Garza.

        So, what is your point?

      • hittfamily - Jul 22, 2013 at 8:07 PM

        I don’t really get your arguement. What are you trying to say? Harvey and Kershaw are better? More valuable? Better prospects? No argument here.

        Garza was traded for a 20 year old #1 overall draft pick and baseball’s reigning graduated #1 prospect in Delmon Young. He was a highly thought of arm. He has been really good. I don’t know what Harvey or Kershaw have to do with this, but has either of them ever been traded for baseball’s top graduated prospect, a 20 year old who finished 2nd in the ROY race to Dustin Pedroia?

        I still don’t see what your point is. Mike Olt will never bat .400 even though Ted Williams did. Matt Garza will have the same success as a 24 year old as Matt Harvey and Clayton Kershaw did at 24. Maybe that was your point?

      • paperlions - Jul 22, 2013 at 8:10 PM

        Your comparisons go to great lengths to ignore context.

        When Young was traded there was a lot of evidence that he wasn’t going to be a star. Similarly, there is a lot of evidence that (at nearly 25 yrs old already), Olt will be lucky to ever be league average. Therefore, comparing him to Longoria (was was fantastic at 23) or Machado (who is fantastic at 20) is unjustified.

      • hittfamily - Jul 22, 2013 at 8:29 PM

        If he’s lucky to be league average, wouldn’t baseball america have dropped him from their top 50 prospects lists? Keith Law? Dave Cameron? The premiere publications say he is a top 50 MLB prospect, just like they said with Longoria, with, Machado, with Moustakis, with Middlebrooks. Those lists take age into account. Harper was the #1 overall prospect when he was 18 years old. Not because he was the best player in the minors, but because he projects to be the best player eventually. Mike Trout was #2. Mike Trout sucked as a 19 year old in the majors. Mike Trout is now an outstanding MLB player. Age is irrelevant on prospect lists. They are all projected careers as MLB ballplayers, whether they are 18 years old, or 25 years old.

        Some prospects pan out. Some don’t. My question was which will he be.

  9. jonrox - Jul 22, 2013 at 5:24 PM

    All the Cubs got were a guy with a .152/.250/.182 MLB line, a former 48th round pick, and someone who doesn’t even exist yet? Good job Rangers!

    How do I turn on the sarcasm font again?

    • jonrox - Jul 22, 2013 at 5:39 PM

      Not sure if commenters not getting the joke, or if just told a terrible joke

  10. theinconvienenttruth - Jul 22, 2013 at 5:31 PM

    The Rangers have a good farm system and it’s crazy they just gave their top ranked player in Olt and a pitcher who is killing it in Edwards for a rental like Garza. Guess the price didn’t change much when they asked for Schoop and ERod from the O’s.

  11. Old Gator - Jul 22, 2013 at 5:36 PM

    By Matt. As far as the Cubs, what’s another one hundred years of turpitude, more or less?

  12. geoknows - Jul 22, 2013 at 5:38 PM

    Wow. Grimm too? Bonanza for the Cubs.

    • proudlycanadian - Jul 22, 2013 at 5:44 PM

      Just bear it.

  13. wpjohnson - Jul 22, 2013 at 5:42 PM

    I suppose we can conclude that the Rangers were desperate. When one is desperate, bad things happen. A bad thing just happened to the Rangers. Poor dumb Rangers.

  14. mattryannolan - Jul 22, 2013 at 5:43 PM

    Rangers need a bat before pitching. I am always behind Daniels but this one kind of bothers me.

  15. sleepyirv - Jul 22, 2013 at 5:46 PM

    Win, lose, or draw- the Cubs front office are making smart moves and lots of them.

  16. kingjoe1 - Jul 22, 2013 at 5:46 PM

    Hey Amaro, look you could have added some serious arms to be back of the rotation and/or relief, plus fill they 3b and future 1b spot with Olt. GOOD JOB you condescending DB. Oh by the way, ever heard of international players? You can sign those dudes now.

    • jimw81 - Jul 22, 2013 at 5:49 PM

      Olt was suppose to be apart for the cliff lee trade couple years ago.

  17. Andrew Chapman - Jul 22, 2013 at 5:49 PM

    I like it. Olt was blocked at third by Beltre, so his maximum value to the team was probably as a trade piece. I would have liked to see him get another shot in Arlington but oh well. Edwards’ stock probably couldn’t be higher than it is right now. Grimm… I am elated that he is gone. For a rotation that has been wrecked by injuries and has depended on rookies and spot starters, Garza will definitely help.

  18. royalintx - Jul 22, 2013 at 6:04 PM

    1. Anyone piling on Nolan Ryan isn’t paying attention. He longer has any say. This is all Daniels.
    2. It appears they gave up quantity (which the Cubs need) but not a lot of quality. Mike Olt is not going to hit major league pitching. Justin Grimm is never going to be a quality major league sp. I don’t believe they have given up much that will truly be valuable on the major league level.
    3. Rangers do need a bat. They should turn Profar into something valuable before his shine wears off…maybe Stanton.

  19. miketreedy - Jul 22, 2013 at 6:51 PM

    The Rangers would not make the playoffs probably without adding a pitcher. They are now 3 games back of the A’s and are also behind in wild card race. They had to make a deal if they wanted to contend. Besides the Rangers have liked Garza for a long time and want to sign him long term. This gives them time to audition.

    They also need a new OF power bat to replace Murphy. That might be harder to find.

    Glad the Rangers are willing to put in the chips to try and win. Go Rangers!

    • wpjohnson - Jul 22, 2013 at 7:20 PM

      They “liked” Dempster, too. Garza will contribute no more than did Dempster. Zero. Get ready for an early winter.

      But, I’m pleased that Olt will get a legitimate chance. He wasn’t going to replace Beltre for a number of years. He can step right in with the Cubs. Good for him and good luck to him.

  20. materialman80 - Jul 22, 2013 at 9:58 PM

    I know Garza is happy he never has to put that uniform on again. You have to feel like a loser every time you put it on.

  21. reeggss - Jul 23, 2013 at 10:38 AM

    Olt has never been given a chance? Look at his stat line in majors. Look at minor league ball. This will hit the 6 spot at very best for an anemic cubs lineup 2 years from now. Ask any rangers fan who has seen olt play, it is very close to turning the page on this guy

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