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Report: A-Rod trying to make a deal

Jul 23, 2013, 10:34 AM EDT

Alex Rodriguez AP

From ESPN New York late last night, the latest on Alex Rodriguez:

Sources, though, conceded that the suspension of Braun could be a precursor to a similar punishment for Rodriguez, who is currently on the disabled list with a strained quadriceps. “My understanding is he’s trying to make a deal,’’ a source said. “But I don’t think it’s going to happen [Monday].”

Based on what we’re hearing about the evidence against him, he’d be pretty wise to do so. And if he could get something that, in form at least, follows Braun’s he’d be dumb not to take it. Something in which the bulk of the suspension comes this season rather than stretching too deeply into next.  Which could be harder as each day goes by because, obviously, the number of games this season decreases with each day.

  1. dowhatifeellike - Jul 23, 2013 at 10:37 AM

    Any deal he gets should require that he start serving the suspension only after he is cleared to play.

    • The Dangerous Mabry - Jul 23, 2013 at 10:38 AM

      This probably isn’t enforceable, because even if you make that rule, he’ll be feeling great and cleared to play tomorrow.

    • bfunk1978 - Jul 23, 2013 at 10:39 AM

      I’d go a little farther with that if I were MLB. I’d want to see him play for a week or so in the Majors again, to make sure he’s at least somewhat healthy, before giving him the suspension. This can’t go like Edinson Volquez serving his 50 game suspension while on the DL.

      • gigab0t - Jul 23, 2013 at 11:03 AM

        “You’re suspended after you play a few more games.”

        I dunno…

      • largebill - Jul 23, 2013 at 11:03 AM

        Really? You think that would work? “To punish you, we don’t want you to play for a while but we want you to play before we’ll not let ya play”

      • sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Jul 23, 2013 at 11:09 AM

        Make the PED cheats play for free, while wearing scarlet or pink uniforms. Let them stand out from the rest of the team and be subjected to ridicule by the fans every game. I bet you would have guys quit, begging to void their contracts.

        #mostlykidding #notcompletelythough

      • bfunk1978 - Jul 23, 2013 at 11:12 AM

        I’m not saying you’d advertise it; I’d just wait til he was on the field to start thinking about making deals.

      • pbastille - Jul 23, 2013 at 11:28 AM

        I dunno, Sabathia. Real men aren’t afraid to wear pink:

      • sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:36 PM

        pbastille: It worked in a texas prison. Reoffense rate is down 70% since they switched the jumpsuit color (and shoes, underwear, walls) to pink.

      • anxovies - Jul 23, 2013 at 7:19 PM

        These guys are not criminals. The drugs that they are accused of using are not illegal. The Justice Department looked into it and was not interested. You or I could take the drugs and not be arrested of fired at work. The only reason that punishment is being imposed is that their use violates the agreement between the player’s union and the league. The players involved used the drugs to help heal faster or improve performance to help their teams and their careers. They got caught and it looks like they will suffer. Other than that they are just like you or me. Get some perspective.

    • gothapotamus90210 - Jul 23, 2013 at 10:42 AM

      Unfortunately, that probably won’t happen. See Freddy Galvis.

    • fanofevilempire - Jul 23, 2013 at 10:53 AM

      TJ Quinn of ESPN sure has a lot of info despite MLB denying they are NOT leaking info.
      First Takes Stephen A. Smith said A-Rods people called him and said they will fight
      because they feel Yankees and MLB are in contact and conspiring and they will put
      up a fight against any suspension.
      Get ya popcorn people.

      • sportsdrenched - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:12 PM

        not sure who this TJ Quinn Guy is, so I’m not sure what to think of his sources. But I know who Stephan A Smith is….and while I trust him with some aspects of sports reporting….baseball isn’t one of them.

    • larrymahnken - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:11 PM

      That doesn’t add any punishment to the player, it only punishes his team.

  2. rollinghighwayblues - Jul 23, 2013 at 10:38 AM

    What a worm.

  3. nghtrder169 - Jul 23, 2013 at 10:40 AM

    The real story will be if the Yankees can void the rest of his horrible contract

    • fanofevilempire - Jul 23, 2013 at 10:54 AM

      they can’t so that will not be a story.

      • nghtrder169 - Jul 23, 2013 at 11:00 AM

        Smh to bad – oh well its their money so I won’t lose any sleep

      • jprcox - Jul 23, 2013 at 11:03 AM

        Don’t be too sure….many contracts have a performance clauses for “good behavior” attached, or better said “behavior detrimental” to the Yanks. I’ve read in the NYTimes that the Yankees may seek to terminate his contract based upon one of those clauses.

        Boy ARod is a joke. Fans barely like him when he is an MVP – let alone now we learn its all steroids.

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Jul 23, 2013 at 11:34 AM

        I’ve read in the NYTimes that the Yankees may seek to terminate his contract based upon one of those clauses.

        It’s been brought up numerous times in every single Arod thread, and every PED thread. There is no clause in the JDA or CBA that allows a team to void a contract for testing positive for PEDs. The fact that the NYT is reporting it may be possible is just another example of how shitty newspapers have become.

      • sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:41 PM

        Church, the idea is not to punish him for a failed drug test (especially since he didn’t fail one). The idea is to punish him for interfering with an MLB investigation. While the CBA and JDA are pretty explicit about punishment for failed tests, they are rather vague about exact punishments for other types of offenses. Thus, Braun got 65 games without (technically) failing a drug test.

        “Interfering with an MLB investigation” could perhaps be seen as serious enough to warrant a re-evaluation of the morals & behavior clauses in his contract.

      • turdfurgerson68 - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:45 PM

        Why can’t the team try and void his contract? There is almost certainly a morals clause embedded within his contract, and last time i checked most of the ‘substances’ a-roid has been taking are illegal for human consumption. There’s no doubt the team can at least try that route.

        Of course, given that this is the clown trio of Cashman and the steinbrenner bro’s, maybe they didn’t have the lawyers include such a clause.

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:06 PM

        “Interfering with an MLB investigation” could perhaps be seen as serious enough to warrant a re-evaluation of the morals & behavior clauses in his contract.

        It will be challenged in court, viciously since we’re now dealing with someone losing $114M+ dollars with zero precedent for it as well.

      • turdfurgerson68 - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:55 PM

        Let them litigate it then, the team is worth billions…and so what if. heir is no precedent?

        Guess there are still some Yankee fans that still want a-roid and his ridiculous contract.

      • jwbiii - Jul 23, 2013 at 2:46 PM

        Of course it’s in the Uniform Player’s Contract.


        By Club

        7.(b) The club may terminate this contract upon written notice to the
        Player (but only after requesting and obtaining waivers of this contract
        from all other Major League Clubs) if the Player shall at any time:

        (1) fail, refuse or neglect to conform his personal conduct to the
        standards of good citizenship and good sportsmanship or to keep
        himself in first-class physical condition or to obey the Club’s train-
        ing rules;
        . . .
        7.(c) If this contract is terminated by the Club, the Player shall be enti-
        tled to termination pay under the circumstances and in the amounts set
        forth in Article IX of the Basic Agreement. In addition, the Player shall
        be entitled to receive an amount equal to the reasonable traveling
        expenses of the Player, including first-class jet air fare and meals en
        route, to his home city

        The Yankees can release him for being a bad citizen. They still have to pay him.

        Uniform Player’s Contract, CBA, page 277

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Jul 23, 2013 at 5:46 PM

        The Yankees can release him for being a bad citizen. They still have to pay him.

        Of course, but I’m assuming people are trying to find a way to release him AND not pay him.

  4. therealbigben - Jul 23, 2013 at 10:40 AM

    Arod shoulda hit the gym a little more:

    • number42is1 - Jul 23, 2013 at 10:49 AM


  5. banpeds - Jul 23, 2013 at 10:42 AM

    David Cornwell….. know who he is?

  6. sheppyshep8 - Jul 23, 2013 at 10:42 AM

    it’s a shame the MLB can’t suspend for stupidity. what will it take for this dude, and others, to realize they aren’t above the law? maybe a 2 year suspension, without the pay of that ridiculous contract he has, AFTER he is deemed healthy by team doctor’s would be a start.

    A-ROD is like a bad cancer. You just wish it would go away, and you never seem to have the right cure to get rid of it.

    • ditto65 - Jul 23, 2013 at 10:52 AM

      One way to get rid of him is to NOT sign him to 10 year deals. What you sow, you too shall reap.

    • fanofevilempire - Jul 23, 2013 at 10:56 AM

      and yet Braun can keep his money right?
      get lost with your double standard.

      • sheppyshep8 - Jul 23, 2013 at 11:29 AM

        f-no, braun can’t keep his money. what are you smoking?

      • krispyone - Jul 23, 2013 at 11:40 AM

        Braun got suspended WITHOUT pay, just like people are implying should happen to A-Rod. Dont know where you got Braun can keep his money from.

    • chadjones27 - Jul 23, 2013 at 11:41 AM

      And it’s a shame the blogs can’t block posters for stupidity.

      • bigharold - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:36 PM

        If guys could get blocked for stupidity then most of us would eventually be blocked.

  7. unclemosesgreen - Jul 23, 2013 at 10:52 AM

    ARod saw Braun take the cheese – he smells cheese – of course he’s going to make a deal. Gotta let rats be rats.

    • gigab0t - Jul 23, 2013 at 11:05 AM


  8. sdelmonte - Jul 23, 2013 at 10:59 AM

    So how do the Yankees proceed with that gaping hole at third? I can’t imagine that they continue with things the way they are. But are there any upgrades at third available for the sort of mid-level prospect they are trading for Soriano? Do they just offer some of the money that they won’t have to pay to A-Rod? (I assume the unpaid money stays with the team and is not put into some sort of fund at the league office, but I have never heard how that works.)

    So weird that the Yankees now have utter instability at third base while the Mets have ended decades of third base change for a while now and for the next several years.

    • southpaw2k - Jul 23, 2013 at 11:18 AM

      What, you don’t think Zoilo Almonte is a long-term solution at third base?

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Jul 23, 2013 at 11:35 AM

        He’s an OF, of course he’s not a solution at 3b.

      • southpaw2k - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:29 PM

        Didn’t Almonte get some time at 3B too? I thought I saw him listed in the lineup there mixed in with Nunez.

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:07 PM

        No, luis cruz and alberto gonzalez have played third, along with vernon wells, kevin youkilis, and jayson nix.

  9. ramrene - Jul 23, 2013 at 11:13 AM

    A-Rod needs to be the poster boy for the PED Lifetime Ban!

    Make it so.

  10. sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Jul 23, 2013 at 11:15 AM

    If he is suspended all of next season, does his salary still count toward the luxury tax for some reason? I am not one of those who thinks the Yankees are better off without ARod (have you seen a Luis Cruz at-bat?). If they are trying to get under the luxury tax threshhold for 2014, though, I do think they could benefit from having an extra $30MM to spend on the team.

    If he is suspended for half of next season, would they pro-rate the luxury tax value of his contract?

    • Mr. Furious - Jul 23, 2013 at 11:45 AM

      The luxury tax calculation is based on AAV, which is $27.5MM, rather than the actual contract value for a particular year. They did it that way so that teams couldn’t structure contracts specifically to get under the luxury tax in a particular year.

      A-Rod’s suspension will be without pay, and whatever salary he forfeits will not count against the luxury tax threshold – if he’s suspended for the entire year, he would only count for $1.5MM in luxury tax calculations. If it’s 150 games, it would be about $3.4MM.

    • jwbiii - Jul 23, 2013 at 3:01 PM

      Mr. Furious, You may want to read Articles XXIII and XXI of the CBA, as they directly contradict what you are saying. The money owed, but not paid, to a suspended player counts against the salary cap.

  11. lazlosother - Jul 23, 2013 at 11:16 AM

    One of the more interesting aspects of the A-Rod issue is the possibility he interfered with MLB’s investigation. If MLB has evidence of this they may tell him no deal and attempt to ban him for life. The tricky part would be explaining why Melky wasn’t given the same treatment, although as I understand it MLB is not bound by the same restrictions in this one. Regardless, it would seem A-Rod is going to be dealt with more severely than Braun.

    Equally interesting is how NY will deal with it. If part of the deal is admitting he interfered, NY may try to use conduct & morals to void the contract. It wouldn’t usually be worth the trouble but with 100+ million left on the books they may give it a go. Far fetched but one can dream, the money would certainly be better spent elsewhere.

    • bigharold - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:14 PM

      Any attempt to void A-Rod’s contract will lead to litigation for the next three years. A-Rod not only has the resources to fight, voiding his contract would give him no reason not to fight. Also, regardless of what people think about A-Rod, .. this is about the law and contracts.

      To effectively void his contract MLB would have ban him for life. The Yankees, as much as they’d like to rid themselves of A-Rod’s contract aren’t fighting that fight. For that MLB, needs to prove that his actions so undermined the integrity of the game that the agreed upon sanctions for JDA violations are insufficient and such a harsh penalty is thereby warranted. And, while one can argue the insidious affects of PEDs in baseball in general and the extent of A-Rod’s involvement, MLB would have to demonstrate why A-Rod is materially different than any other player that is or was accused of PED use. Like, Bonds, Giambi, Clemens, Bruan, Melky Cabrera or any other player. A-Rod is like other players that used PEDs, he was no mastermind or ring leader. He was never the focal point of the issue, .. merely a participant, .. allegedly. He no more tried to avoid detection than Braun did. In fact, Braun fought a failed screening and essentially won on a technicality. One could argue that Braun’s action were more obstruction than A-Rod’s attempt to avoid detection, .. allegedly.

      People need to step back and separate their visceral hatred for A-Rod and look at the facts. A-Rod has never failed a screening before so he’s essentially in the same boat right at this moment as David Ortiz, .. he failed a “survey” 10 years ago. One can assume that he used PEDs all or most of his career but so what? It has no baring on this instance. You can’t justify giving him the equivalent of a “death sentence” for a first offense. If MLB over reacts and tries to give him a lifetime ban he will fight it to the bitter end, because he has no reason not. And, MLB’s misguided attempt to put an end to A-Rod, .. clearly the biggest, most vile and remorseless villain in sports ever, .. and to put this PED scandal behind them will backfire and it will drag on for years. And, in the end A-Rod will likely win in court too.

      But you know, forget about pragmatism, .. ignore the facts, .. pay no attention to common sense, logic or reason and don’t think twice about contracts and the law, .. lets get together a mob, .. get us some some pitchforks and touches and burn that SOB A-Rod at the stake so we can feel better about baseball.

      • lazlosother - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:39 PM

        There is no visceral hatred of A-Rod in my post, but nice straw-man argument. No matter how one feels about A-Rod, the fact is that he will be 38 (or 39 if he misses ’14), injury prone and working off of two reconstructed hips. If you don’t think NY would like to get out from under that your are insane. That isn’t visceral hate, it’s economic reality.

        Your comparison to Braun is invalid. Braun fought the charges using the system spelled out in the MLBPA. A-Rod allegedly attempted to interfere with the investigation. My speculation on a ban was based upon the interference, not PED use itself. It was also based upon the fact that this investigation is not restricted by the MLBPA as previous cases. Also notice I stated the scenario as far-fetched.

        For a guy who likes to refer to facts, common sense, logic and reason you do a very nice job of ignoring them.

  12. pisano - Jul 23, 2013 at 12:51 PM

    The deal he should try to make with the Yankees is have them give him half of what’s owed on this contract, and send him off to retirement, then all parties concerned will be happy.

    • bigharold - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:28 PM

      Why would A-Rod settle for half? More and more it seems that Bill Madden of the NYDN was used by MLB to get the word out about A-Rod’s fate, .. he’s getting 150 game suspension. That’s about a $20 mil loss in pay. If I’m A-Rod, why would I walk away from $20-30 mil and settle for half? Even to A-Rod, that’s a lot of coin.

  13. Old Gator - Jul 23, 2013 at 1:09 PM

    Alex Rodriguez, you’ve so-o-o-o-o-o-ld OUT! Now let’s see what you’ve won, here on your second iteration of PED Sellout! George! What’s A-Roid’s heave so far?

    – Right Jack! So far, a set of broken Cooperstown aspirations for A-Roid’s new hole! Some Fuck-Local-Milf-Club memberships for that fun-filled interminable orfseason! A backdoor goodbye postmortem and now….

    a three hundred game suspension with a ghostwritten mea culpa whenever you’re ready Mister PED, two apologies to the fans when none are needed, and look at that – slam the door on the way out and it hits you in the ass!

    Well, how do you feel now, Mr. PED?


    Well, with that absurd contract you can afford it now, slob….but like the rulebook says, there are bigger bangs to come!

  14. 1historian - Jul 23, 2013 at 2:02 PM

    “the number of games this season decreases with each day.”

    Wow – you can’t get a thing by this guy

  15. moshe - Jul 23, 2013 at 5:16 PM

    Dear A-Rod…please quit.


    Common sense.

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