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Phillies release Carlos Zambrano

Jul 25, 2013, 5:17 PM EDT

Philadelphia Phillies Carlos Ruiz AP

Carlos Zambrano hasn’t pitched since being shut down in late June with a shoulder injury and the Phillies have released him from Triple-A.

Zambrano signed a minor-league deal with the Phillies in mid-May and seemed relatively close to making it back to the majors before the arm problems, starting seven total games in the minors with a 2.04 ERA.

However, his 30/17 K/BB ratio in 35 innings wasn’t as impressive as the nice-looking ERA and he likely wouldn’t have been an option for the Phillies until mid-August anyway.

  1. spudchukar - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:28 PM

    So who are they going to bring up after they trade Lee to the Cards?

    • Francisco (FC) - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:37 PM

      Why would the Cardinals be interested in Cliff Lee?

      • spudchukar - Jul 25, 2013 at 6:16 PM

        As the season progresses hopefully your question becomes prescient. Currently, management and fans alike are concerned that our lack of experience from our starters might cost us down the stretch and in the play-offs.

      • jrbdmb - Jul 25, 2013 at 6:24 PM

        “Management and fans alike are concerned that our lack of experience from our starters might cost us down the stretch and in the play-offs.”

        Are you talking about the Cards or the Phillies? I ask because Philadelphia fans have recently shown themselves to be almost as delusional as Amaro.

      • cohnjusack - Jul 25, 2013 at 6:45 PM

        Yeah…that probably wouldn’t make much sense. You’re in first, you’re ERA is 4th in the league, you have Wainwright, Miller, Lynn (whose FIP is about a run better than his ERA…bad luck I say!), Westbrook (whose FIP is about a run worse than his ERA…good luck I say!), Wacha in the minors, Joe Kelly who seems like a capable 5th starter if need be, Carpenter maybe coming back.

        Obviously, anybody would have happy to have Cliff Lee, but he isn’t free. I just don’t see why the Cardinals would give up huge prospects for 2 months of a pitcher when they already have excellent pitching.

      • spudchukar - Jul 25, 2013 at 7:28 PM

        First off Lee is under contract through 2015 with a vesting option in 2016. Cards would probably insist the Pheelies pick up about 10mil of his yearly salary.

        Miller as a dynamite fastball with late movement but his secondary pitches need development, and while he walks few, his pitch counts tend to get high early. And he is very young, straight out of high school.

        Lynn continues to be an enigma. At times he can dominate. But his make-up is questionable. Plus he floundered in the second half last year and has shown signs of repeating that this year.

        Westbrook is inconsistent. With a history of imploding. And he had to be DL’d for some time this year with a chronic elbow inflammation.

        Kelly is not someone the Cards can count on at this point. His fastball location is shaky.

        The first call-up is Lyons, a lefty who dazzled in his first two starts but then fell off quickly with pitch command. But since his demotion he has rebounded with some outstanding outings in Memphis.

        Martinez has eye-popping stuff, but is only 20, and isn’t polished.

        Wacha got a call up, was so-so but hasn’t developed a third pitch, and has a very good fastball, but not good enough unless he has great location, which he didn’t display in his first trip to the bigs.

        Cards are thinking post-season, and are in the unenviable position of needing to insure they win their division, otherwise they will have to play twice within their division to get to a series to go to the WS.

        You only get so many chances for a title, and they have a lot of prospects all MLB ready, and not really a place for all of them.

        You asked.

      • cohnjusack - Jul 25, 2013 at 8:01 PM

        “First off Lee is under contract through 2015 with a vesting option in 2016. Cards would probably insist the Pheelies pick up about 10mil of his yearly salary.”

        –My bad.

        “Miller as a dynamite fastball with late movement but his secondary pitches need development, and while he walks few, his pitch counts tend to get high early. And he is very young, straight out of high school.”

        –Well, he’s 22 years old, so “straight out of 3 minor league seasons” is more accurate. Also…huh? Yeah, he’s not perfect. He’s still one of the best young pitchers in the game and even after a rough patch boasts a nifty 133 ERA+ and nearly 4-1 K/BB ratio. In other words, he’s pretty forkin awesome.

        “Lynn continues to be an enigma. At times he can dominate. But his make-up is questionable. Plus he floundered in the second half last year and has shown signs of repeating that this year.”

        –FIP is your friend here at it shows far greater predictability than ERA. Lynn is being hammered to the tune of a whopping .421 BABIP this month. I think bad luck is the far greater issue, as he is striking out, walking and couching up about the same number of homers. Did Voros McCracken teach you nothing?

        –“You only get so many chances for a title, and they have a lot of prospects all MLB ready, and not really a place for all of them.”

        Leaving out the issue of whether the Cards should trade for Lee or not..they aren’t. Done. It ain’t happening. They aren’t giving up Tavares/Wacha (any trade would probably require at least one +) for a $25 contract to fill an already good rotation. Sorry, it’s just not gonna happen. The organizational philosophy in recent years has been to build sustainable winners. To quote Bernie : http://goo.gl/hi5y9Z

        “I don’t see Mozeliak taking on Lee’s full salary commitment.

        I don’t see Mozeliak surrendering his very best pitching prospects — even if he does have a surplus.

        I don’t see any reason why the Phillies would give Lee away.

        I guess you could say that I don’t see this trade happening.”

    • tuberippin - Jul 25, 2013 at 10:19 PM

      The notion of Lee to the Cards is a stupid one.

      However, the Phils would be happy to take a Carlos Martinez or Oscar Taveras were such a trade to occur.

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