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The Rangers are considering bringing back Michael Young

Jul 26, 2013, 10:30 AM EDT

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Somewhere Evan Grant is dancing with glee. Jon Heyman reports:

The Rangers are focused on outfielders at the moment, but they’ve talked at least internally about the possibility of trying to bring back former Rangers star Michael Young, according to sources.

Young is hitting .278/.342/.405 on the season, though it has been kind of up and down for him. Nice April, bad May, nice June.  I figure in Texas he’d cover for the seriously ailing Lance Berkman at DH while filling in at first and wherever else because that’s his thing.

And if the Rangers, who are now three back of Oakland, snag Young and end up winning the division, you darn well he’ll get the credit for it even if he doesn’t play well. Because that’s his thing too.



  1. 13arod - Jul 26, 2013 at 10:37 AM

    Even after young was compling because he wants to be a 3rd basemen

    • fanofevilempire - Jul 26, 2013 at 2:57 PM

      he should spit on them,

    • coloradogolfcoupons - Jul 27, 2013 at 1:21 PM

      Re: “Even after young was compling because he wants to be a 3rd basemen”

      1. He is a matador at 3rd base. In 57 years of watching MLB I have NEVER seen a worse butcher at the position. If he wants to be a 3rd baseman he will need reincarnation.

      2. He has 32 RBI in a full year so far

      3. He has hit into 17 Double Plays already, after 26 last year.

      4. I watch every Ranger game. I never want to hear “Past a diving Michael Young again”…..and you hear it even when grounders are within a HALF STEP of him.

      Young was very good for years, and I was a big fan, but he started pulling off the ball at the plate 2 years ago, badly, and he should never put on a glove again. He is WAY past his prime, and hate to see him butcher his legacy while dodging ground balls at third.

  2. DelawarePhilliesFan - Jul 26, 2013 at 10:48 AM

    Cue Bowling for Soup:

    Come back to Tex-assssss! It’s just not the same since you went away!!

  3. heyblueyoustink - Jul 26, 2013 at 10:52 AM

    ” you darn well he’ll get the credit for it even if he doesn’t play well. Because that’s his thing too.”

    Hey Craig, why don’t you trade for him, maybe your vintage Ewok Villiage set will get the job done, perhaps if you threw in some mint condition Go-Bots, put Young in your basement, and whip him at your leisure.

    I mean, it seems you can’t help yourself when it comes to him, so just seal the deal.

    • buggieowens - Jul 26, 2013 at 11:31 AM

      Dang Blue…that’s pretty screwed up….I like it.

      • biasedhomer - Jul 26, 2013 at 11:43 AM

        He has a point though. Criag just doesn’t know when to give it up. Its his schtick but he needs to find something new.

  4. proudlycanadian - Jul 26, 2013 at 11:43 AM

    I am in shock. I predicted this interest in Young yesterday but only in in jest.

    • proudlycanadian - Jul 26, 2013 at 3:51 PM

      I understand that The Rangers are also checking out the availability of Ted Williams.

  5. stlouis1baseball - Jul 26, 2013 at 11:57 AM

    Why wouldn’t they want him back? He’s old school…gritty…hustle’s…can play multiple positions.
    But most importantly…he “plays the game the right way.”


    • DelawarePhilliesFan - Jul 26, 2013 at 12:41 PM

      Got to be honest – I do not, and never will understand why Michael Young gets such derision. Yes those are hackneyed cliches, and yes they do get applied to him. But it’s not like he is in some Bryce Harper/B.J. Upton universe of attention where you are so fed up of hearing it you have to vent.

      I like the guy – mostly because what is there to dislike?

      • evanwins - Jul 26, 2013 at 1:05 PM

        People don’t like him because of his WAR. The whole sabremetric community has gone overboard with one stat and if you don’t excel in that stat then you suck at baseball.

        These are the same people who didn’t believe or didn’t think Miguel Cabrera deserved the MVP last year and thought that Tim Lincecum’s 3 hitter in the 2011 NLDS was better than Roy Halladay’s no hitter.

        I really appreciate what Sabremetrics brings to baseball evaluations but ALL stats lie and the value of actual visual scouting shouldn’t be completely discarded.

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Jul 26, 2013 at 2:10 PM

        People don’t like him because of his WAR. The whole sabremetric community has gone overboard with one stat and if you don’t excel in that stat then you suck at baseball.

        No one bashes Michael Young. They bash Evan Grant who thinks Young is an MVP because he’s a “team player” while conveniently forgetting all the times Young bitched about wanting to be trade because Young was being moved for a better player.

        It’s the same thing with Ryan Howard. The hate isn’t against the player, it’s the media/fans who think he’s the best thing since slice bread.

        Good people, bad players.

        These are the same people who didn’t believe or didn’t think Miguel Cabrera deserved the MVP last year

        Answer this question. Is the MVP for best hitter or best player? If we can show that the gap in hitting between Trout and Cabera was no where as close as the gap in defense/baserunning, wouldn’t you agree that Trout is a better player?

      • stlouis1baseball - Jul 26, 2013 at 2:41 PM

        For what it’s worth…I agree with you for the most part DPF. I was really just sorta’ posting tongue-in-cheek. And I agree with you…Michael Young very much gets derision routinely. I don’t know how much of that is truly warranted.

      • DelawarePhilliesFan - Jul 26, 2013 at 2:47 PM

        Oh I know – you have good stuff, and aren’t one given to hyperbole.

        Your only crime was the 2011 NLDS. And I forgive you 😉

      • eightyraw - Jul 26, 2013 at 2:52 PM

        EvanWins: WAR is not one stat. It is a framework that allows us to approximate player value in a consistent manner void of subjectivity. The inputs of WAR (assuming we are talking FG or B-Ref versions) are not difficult to find. We know why Michael Young has a poor WAR; he combines a league-average bat with terrible defense and below-average baserunning. WAR allows us to see this in one number.

        You do understand why people think Mike Trout was more deserving of MVP than Miguel Cabrera right? Their offensive contributions were nearly identical, but Trout was vastly superior defensively and on the basepaths.

      • eightyraw - Jul 26, 2013 at 3:01 PM

        What’s to dislike about Michael Young? His terrible defense. His lack of power and lack of walks from a premium offensive position.

      • scotttheskeptic - Jul 26, 2013 at 3:29 PM

        “…what is there to dislike?”

        His defense.

        Off the top of my head.

      • biasedhomer - Jul 26, 2013 at 4:15 PM

        Some people seem to take offense when others have positive opinions about Young. It makes absolutely no sense at all. These people get riled up over something like this, imagine how they act when topics of greater magnitudes arise.

      • evanwins - Jul 26, 2013 at 4:36 PM

        I know what WAR is and, like most people, have a firm understanding of what it represents. And also like most people (everyone?) I do not know the actual formula (both B.Ref and FG have agreed on one FYI) off the top of my head. Unlike most people (especially the sabre-lovers) I refuse to put 100% dedication into something I cannot fully explain in detail myself.

        Re the MVP, it’s given to the Most Valuable Player. The player who brought the most to the League and the game of baseball itself. It is not supposed to be a purely stat driven award. Who did something amazing? Who accomplished something ridiculous, that many players can/have never accomplish? Who brought value to the game OUTSIDE of your typical baseball lover.

        Was winning the triple crown (a truly outstanding accomplishment that is rarely achieved) more valuable to baseball on a whole than superior defense and base running? I think so. I think, and apparently so do the BBWA writers, that leading the league in the top 3 offensive categories, which previously hadn’t been done in 40+ years and has only been done by 13 other players in the very long history of the game, was more valuable to the game of baseball than what Trout had done, taking nothing away from Trout.

      • eightyraw - Jul 26, 2013 at 5:03 PM

        EvanWins: Your initial comment claimed that people don’t like MY because of his WAR. No, people don’t like Michael Young because of he plays poor defense at 3B and 1B, he doesn’t run well, he doesn’t hit with power, he doesn’t walk, and he hits into DPs with frequency. WAR simply shows this in one number. You don’t need to know the specific weights to understand this.

        I wasn’t arguing for Cabrera or Trout (I didn’t care then and I don’t care now), but to say a crowd has gone overboard with one stat because they thought Miggy wasn’t the most deserving of the MVP is completely missing what the arguments are about. And you can define value in any number of ways. WAR is explicitly a definition of value. You define value in your own way. But what you are unknowingly doing is just creating your own WAR.

        You keep fighting this strawman. Who puts all their faith into one stat? Find me this person. However, we all have our own versions of WAR. Anytime you compare/rank players that is your WAR. The beauty of WAR as presented by FG, B-Ref, B-Pro, etc. is that it is objective, spelled out for all to see, and consistently applied to all players.

      • eightyraw - Jul 26, 2013 at 5:07 PM

        EvanWins: Sorry, but you do not have a firm understanding on WAR represents. And no, B-Ref and FG have not decided on one formula (FYI). They have come to terms on the same replacement level. And why do you need to memorize the formulas when FG breaks down the weights for you right on the player page? Find me a sabre-lover that has 100% faith in WAR. And find me a sabre-lover that does not have a complete understanding of WAR.

  6. artisan3m - Jul 26, 2013 at 2:34 PM

    It will take more than Young to end the funk in Arlington. In 63 innings since the
    All Star break, the Rangers have put up only seventeen runs, got swept at home by the Orioles and split with the Yankees, arguably the most beat up team in the AL. They are 8-and12 for July and getting worse by the day. The Rangers do not need ‘another bat’ ~ they need a hitting coach. Dave Magadan sux. They have a “bat” at Round Rock ~ if anyone has the guts to bring up Rameriz. Of course that would take several days ~ ~ considering all of Manny’s baggage.

  7. thehawg - Jul 26, 2013 at 3:47 PM

    Rangers can get Justin Ruggiano or Juan Pierre from the Marlins

    • biasedhomer - Jul 26, 2013 at 5:59 PM

      Who in their right mind would want Pierre as a DH?

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