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After Tino Martinez resigns, Marlins name John Pierson interim hitting coach

Jul 28, 2013, 8:20 PM EST

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Amid allegations from several Marlins players that hitting coach Tino Martinez resorted to both physical and verbal abuse, the former Yankee star resigned from his position. John Pierson was named the interim hitting coach. Pierson had been serving the team as the organization’s Minor League field director.

Martinez had offered to resign when the organization was made aware of the complaints, but owner Jeffrey Loria stunningly gave a vote of confidence to his hitting coach. It was only when the allegations went public that Martinez stepped down. “It has been building for a few days,” Martinez said. “I didn’t know this was going to come out publicly. When this came out, I thought it was the right thing to do.”

As Juan C. Rodriguez of the Sun-Sentinel describes it, Martinez had a controversial style, engaging in disagreements with manager Mike Redmond along with a physical engagement with rookie second baseman Derek Dietrich. The allegations suggest Martinez had grabbed Dietrich by the neck, but Martinez firmly denied any such action, saying, “I want to say that I never physically touched anyone by the neck. That never happened.”

Martinez sounds legitimately apologetic about his actions. Via MLB.com’s Joe Frisaro:

“I just thought with some young players, you needed to be a little firmer and try to get them on the right track,” Martinez said. “Obviously, I made a mistake, and I apologize for that too. I apologize to the Marlins’ organization, my family and everyone involved.”

To his credit, Redmond was rational about the situation as well, empathizing with the difficulties Martinez faced as a new coach following a 16-year playing career:

“Coaching is tough,” Redmond said. “I know that going from a player to a coach, it’s hard. Part of the grind is learning how to deal with different situations with different players and personalities. All of that stuff is a challenge. Some people can do it. Some people can’t.

“At the same time, too, we need those guys. That’s the show. Those 25 guys out there, they’re the ones who go out there and perform. Our job is to keep them going. That’s the important thing.”

For the Marlins, it’s another blemish on a very blemished record. After opening up a $634 million new stadium last year, the Marlins boasted a payroll north of $100 million, $40 million more than it had been at its highest point dating back to 2000. Quickly, though, after the team fizzled, Loria traded away the same free agents he had signed to rich, lengthy contracts as free agents, and sent away some of the organization’s homegrown stars as well, such as Hanley Ramirez. They opened up the 2013 season with a $50 million payroll. On average, the Marlins are averaging about 11,000 fewer fans per game than they were last year. Their latest misstep won’t help bring any more fans to the ballpark.

  1. tfbuckfutter - Jul 28, 2013 at 8:39 PM

    I think we can all agree that any decision the Marlins make will definitely be in the best interest of the club both now and in the future.

    • Old Gator - Jul 28, 2013 at 9:02 PM

      Especially the distant future.

      • dirtyharry1971 - Jul 28, 2013 at 10:41 PM

        and you are a old loser, I have forgotten more baseball then you will ever know old man

    • Old Gator - Jul 29, 2013 at 12:14 AM

      Ah, contributing your usual trenchant insights and constructive analysis, I see. Nice of you to stop in on a Feesh post, Harry. There aren’t nearly enough assholes here.

      • jimmymarlinsfan - Jul 29, 2013 at 9:07 AM

        What difference does it make? You are one of them

      • Old Gator - Jul 29, 2013 at 9:39 AM

        Your posts have gotten progressively – or maybe regressively is the word – more obvious, lame, vapid and juvenile as you’ve gone along. Getting desperate, are we?

  2. thegonz13 - Jul 28, 2013 at 8:57 PM

    I agree that Martinez had to go but why on Earth was he given a vote of confidence by the organization when it was made aware of the allegations? Why not quietly suspend him pending an internal investigation?

    Oh, wait… these are the Marlins! Never mind…

  3. Old Gator - Jul 28, 2013 at 9:11 PM

    Based on what I’ve been reading in the local spawrts press tonight (I try not to subject myself to spawrts torque raydeeo on a Sunday night before a retirement week), this situation has actually been evolving since spring training, and had been on the desk at the player’s association since Derek Dietrich’s agent filed a complaint with them back when he was demoted to AA last week.

    It sounds like the issue has been simmering and creating issues in the clubhouse for some time. As I wrote earlier on the first blog post about Martinez’ resignation, I’ve been hearing only positive things about Tino’s work with Stanton, Ozuna, Lucas and even Dietrich in the postgame interviews and on the raydeeo. That’s tough to square. But how much of spawrts “news” is just marketing, shilling and propaganda, and how much of it is for real, well, that’s very hard to assess. You can’t fault Tino’s exit strategy, though – take the blame, admit the mistakes, promise to learn from them. You might say that given everything that may or may not have gone on, nothing in his coaching career became him like the leaving of it.

    • Old Gator - Jul 28, 2013 at 10:05 PM

      PS – going to be interesting to see who they hire as a permanent hitting instructor. Sounds like they just grabbed some guy from behind his desk to take up space in the meantime, and if ever a team needed a hitting instructor, this here team is it.

      • Old Gator - Jul 28, 2013 at 10:06 PM

        Oh, and please – no reminders that A-roid will be available.

      • dirtyharry1971 - Jul 28, 2013 at 10:42 PM

        PS

        You are a LOSER!!!!!!!!!

    • dirtyharry1971 - Jul 28, 2013 at 10:42 PM

      LOSER!!

      • Old Gator - Jul 29, 2013 at 12:17 AM

        Is there an echo in here? And how curious that Harry appears right along with a sudden flurry of thumbs! It’s like the way, in old horror films, it begins to stink whenever a reanimated corpse shows up. Blaaauuuugghhhhhh…..

      • cur68 - Jul 29, 2013 at 12:37 AM

        Holy crap! Trolling Gator now, ‘harry? You don’t get tired of your ass being handed to you? You don’t get tired of being the butt of our jokes? You have to go out there and fling more poo around? Well, its your ass. You wanna presented it to be kicked, I gotta say you’re doing a dandy job of it.

      • Old Gator - Jul 29, 2013 at 12:47 AM

        Awww, Harry’s thin skin just wearied of my constant perforations and he blew one of his O-rings – the guy just can’t take those little blowgun hits. He’s no Gordon Liddy, that’s for sure. But he is lucky that I can’t find the right kinds of myrmidons in my yard to restore the potency to my dart frogs. I think the Amdro took them down along with the fire ants, and let’s face it, those biodiverse mountain rain forests can really spoil you.

  4. bigjimatch - Jul 28, 2013 at 9:13 PM

    Contraction

    • Old Gator - Jul 28, 2013 at 10:01 PM

      When they start coming a minute and a half apart, squat over a pail until they can get you to the delivery room.

      • dirtyharry1971 - Jul 28, 2013 at 10:55 PM

        Hey Old fart? The Trash can man is coming soon, I spoke to him and he wants to see you. All Bow to the Trash Can Man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Old Gator - Jul 29, 2013 at 12:21 AM

        Ahh, Harry retaliates massively, including a flurry of transparently manipulated thumbs, for all the sniping to which I’ve subjected his boring, repetitive, bile-tainted brainless “contributions.” Sorry Harry, I’m still here, will be here, the Borg is going nowhere, and you’re still useless – not to mention boring.

  5. bizzmoneyb - Jul 28, 2013 at 9:39 PM

    wow, its pretty evident that something inappropriate took place since he resigned, yet Loria still had Tino’s back when told of these allegations. yet more evidence that Loria is completely incompetent. what more evidence do you need that the man DOES NOT care about his players at all?! he promises players that if they sign here they will not be traded, then immediately trades them. he’s informed that his players are being mistreated, and sides with the coach. what FOOL would ever want to sign with this horrible and pathetic franchise? only players that have NO other option. unreal that this man is allowed to continue to soil the MLB name year after year after year. this man has turned me against the team that i loved while growing up. what i once loved, i completely hate. i will have a huge party the day that this man finally sells the team, or dies.

    • Old Gator - Jul 28, 2013 at 10:03 PM

      The Buddha would frown on me for wishing death upon anybody, but as far as when he sells the team, yeah, you bring the beer, I’ll bring the caviar and pumpernickel.

      • dirtyharry1971 - Jul 28, 2013 at 10:56 PM

        Trash is coming soon!! Get ready old fart!!!!!!!

      • Old Gator - Jul 29, 2013 at 12:25 AM

        Wait till after the party. Then they can cart you off in one of them, like Hamm and Clov in Beckett’s Endgame. That’s a play, by the way – I didn’t really expect you to follow that. But as Casey used to say, you could look it up.

        And of course, you can gnaw on the pumpernickel rinds at the bottom of the can on the way out.

  6. mattmc20 - Jul 28, 2013 at 10:24 PM

    Pussificaton of America! When did we start this pathetic behavior of not being able to handle tough coaching?? “he yelled at me”. Boo hoo! You are a pro making a ton of money playing a game! You probably deserved to be yelled at so sack up and become a man.

    • historiophiliac - Jul 29, 2013 at 12:33 AM

      Said the very brave man behind his keyboard, pounding away at his thesis on post-modern masculinity and sports in an age of terrorism. Chapter 3: Money Can’t Buy Me Sacks [sic].

      “Ignorant and full of run-ons,” says the New York Times.

      “Macho mulch” — Christian Science Monitor

      “I thought it was a little brassy.” — Charles Nelson Reilly

  7. sleepyirv - Jul 28, 2013 at 11:00 PM

    Well good, I would hate for this ugly episode to leave the Marlins without a hitting coach.

  8. tigersfandan - Jul 28, 2013 at 11:51 PM

    What’s going on with OG, Harry and the voting?

    • Old Gator - Jul 29, 2013 at 12:27 AM

      It’s just Harry’s time of the month. The thumbs are like his cramps. He just manipulates multiple accounts to lard the count – it’s a junior high school hacker’s trick, and WordPress is especially susceptible to it. It takes a rank imbecile to think no one has figured that out long since. Pay no attention. It’s like the old joke, what’s the difference between a housewife with PMS and a rabid pit bulldog? Answer: you can negotiate with the dog.

      • historiophiliac - Jul 29, 2013 at 12:39 AM

        Honestly, I didn’t think the thumbs were Harry’s style. He seemed not that technologically gifted to me.

        PS That’s an insult to cramps, which really are a bitch — Harry’s more like gas.

      • Old Gator - Jul 29, 2013 at 1:04 AM

        Well, it could be that Harry really is a thumb harpy – based on his posts, he’s clearly of that nugatory mindset to think of the thumbs as his protectors and friends, like Woody Allen’s Needleman and his cans of tuna fish. Or, as King Henry VIII said to Thomas Moore in A Man for All Seasons, the thumb harpies follow him around because they are jackals and he is their lion. Who knows?

        Or maybe he just feels they provide the validation in his life, the delusion that maybe, just maybe, he isn’t the histrionic, ineffectual putz he sees in the mirror in the morning after all, that identifying with the team he roots for isn’t going to provide this season. Naming himself after a tough-guy Clint Eastwood character would kind of militate for that argument, you know? People are infinitely complex. Even Harry.

    • jimmymarlinsfan - Jul 29, 2013 at 9:09 AM

      Og sucks, people are starting to realize it

      • Old Gator - Jul 29, 2013 at 9:40 AM

        It’s a long process. They realized what a fool you were from day one.

  9. jfk69 - Jul 29, 2013 at 5:27 AM

    Laurie tells cry baby players. Wait till David Ortiz retires. I will be hiring him and his bat with instructions to treat these losers like that phone he destroyed

    [mlbvideo id="29202003" width="400" height="224" /]

    • jimmymarlinsfan - Jul 29, 2013 at 9:10 AM

      Who is Laurie?

      • Old Gator - Jul 29, 2013 at 10:05 AM

        What good will knowing the answer to that do you? Whatever little you do know apparently hasn’t done you any good yet.

  10. banger60 - Jul 29, 2013 at 1:02 PM

    sounds like a lot of little bitches.

    • thehawg - Jul 29, 2013 at 1:39 PM

      Old gator & dirtyharry should become facebook friends so they can poke each other.

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