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Following team’s 8th consecutive loss, Jonathan Papelbon says he “definitely didn’t come here for this”

Jul 28, 2013, 9:45 PM EST

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Even as recently as one week ago, the Phillies were considered to be buyers approaching the July 31 trade deadline. They wrapped up a nine-game road trip this afternoon against the Tigers, falling 12-4, their eighth consecutive loss. As mentioned here earlier, it was 50 shades of ugly. I can’t imagine the clubhouse was a fun place to be after the game.

Closer Jonathan Papelbon, who pitched a scoreless bottom of the eighth in his first appearance since July 21, offered up some comments on the state of the organization. Papelbon, now 32 years old, is signed through 2015 with a vesting option for 2016, so he has quite the incentive to see his team improve.

Via MLB.com’s Todd Zolecki:

“I definitely didn’t come here for this,” he said.

Papelbon carries an influential presence in the Phillies’ clubhouse as the team’s closer, a nine-year veteran and World Series champion. Asked what he thought about the direction the organization is headed, he sighed.

“Oh, man,” he said. “We could be here all day.”

So then what about this team’s ability to turn things around, if not this season, then next season?

“It’s going to take, in my opinion, a lot,” he said. “And in my opinion, I think it’s going to have to be something very similar to what the Red Sox went through a couple years ago. From top to bottom.”

Sounds like a shot at GM Ruben Amaro. Zolecki noted that Amaro declined to respond to Papelbon’s comments. They are not without merit: Papelbon was part of the 2011 Red Sox that were torn apart by clubhouse controversy. They parted with GM Theo Epsten, manager Terry Francona, and eventually a handful of expensive, veteran players, including Papelbon.

  1. chalkruz1989 - Jul 29, 2013 at 10:49 AM

    The Philadelphia Phillies used to be a franchise that pride itself on being a blue-collar club, guys that bought into the city and vision of the organization. With Ruben Amaro Jr., the Phillies have turned to over-spending for players instead of drafting talented players and bringing them through the minors. The last team that won the world series was led by guys that were brought up through the system (Rollins, Utley, Howard, Burrell, Hamels and Myers) and individuals that played hard and wanted to win for the city.

    Guys such as Papelbon run their mouth and get under the skins of the city and players.

    Blow the team up starting with RAJ and clowns such as Papelbon.

    • prionogenic - Jul 29, 2013 at 11:13 AM

      “Phillies have turned to over-spending for players instead of drafting talented players and bringing them through the minors”

      They are still drafting guys, but you can’t help if the next crop of minor leaguers aren’t Howard, Rolling, Hamels, and Utley. Of all the guys they’ve traded along the way (Travis d’Arnaud, Kyle Drabek, Michael Taylor, Jason Knapp, Carlos Carrasco, Jason Donald, Lou Marson, Jonathan Villar, Anthony Gose, J.A. Happ, Jonathan Singleton, Josh Zeid, Jarred Cosart and Domingo Santana) for top of the line players (Roy Halladay, Cliff Lee, Hunter Pence, Roy Oswalt) Not a single one but Jarred Cosart looks like they will be a above average major leaguers and in fact the Phillies have done pretty well to keep the one guy, Domonic Brown, who turned out to be an All Star.

      If you want to win consistently, you need start players, Blue-collar hard working guys will only give you so much. This is why over the years the Yankees keep making the World Series and have won like 26 over the years and the Phillies–not so much. To have sustained success you need to put the best talent on the field and take your chances. Baseball is a game of chances and odds, star players give you the best chance.

      Remember the 2008 team that won the WS was kinda of a fluke. A team that was 7 games out with 17 left to play that needed an epic collapse from the Mets to win the Division. It was nothing short of a miraculous season. But each year through 2011, they added pieces that made them a better team. You are going to have a hard time convincing anyone that the 102-win 2011 team and the 97-win 2010 were not better than the 2008 WS Champion team top to bottom

  2. coloradostupid - Jul 29, 2013 at 12:02 PM

    He came to Philly for one thing – to get paid.

    • jimeejohnson - Jul 29, 2013 at 2:12 PM

      And he’s one of those landlubber wee-weepers who doesn’t like seafood but does like cheap cuts of meat drenched in fake cheese.

      • jimeejohnson - Jul 29, 2013 at 2:19 PM

        Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

  3. eglsfan - Jul 29, 2013 at 12:35 PM

    Well Johnny…..as a Phillies fan, I didnt sign up to watch you blow saves….shut the hell up & go away

  4. jimeejohnson - Jul 29, 2013 at 2:11 PM

    Papelbum’s a bum. Captain Obvious over and out.

  5. jimw42 - Jul 29, 2013 at 9:29 PM

    will this legend (in his own mind) whine the same way when he doesn’t get voted into then hall of fame

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