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Report: Bud Selig is prepared to tear up the drug agreement just to get A-Rod out of baseball

Jul 30, 2013, 7:49 AM EDT

Selig hands up

He is if you believe this report from the Daily News, anyway. Which, yes, is a pretty big caveat — this could very well just be a big bluff communicated to a newspaper which has done a great job over the years carrying the anti-PED crowd’s water — but we gotta take reports at face value until we have reason not to.

The report: that Bud Selig is prepared to invoke his powers to “preserve the integrity of the game” in order to keep Alex Rodriguez off the field even if he appeals his discipline. In other words: Selig will essentially void the part of the Joint Drug Agreement that allows players to play pending appeal and suspend him summarily.

Which is absolute madness, of course.

Even if A-Rod has done everything of which he is accused, even if he is the biggest PED user in the history of PED users, even if he has attempted to interfere with MLB’s investigation, he is still owed due process. Everyone is. The Joint Drug Agreement covers all of those offenses, even the interference with an investigation thing. It says that the JDA is the sole basis of discipline in matters arising out of PEDs. To deny a player his appeal rights under that agreement would be a shameful abuse of power, even when the player involved happens to be unpopular. The least of my brothers, and such.

At some point we have to ask ourselves how much of Major League Baseball’s investigation and subsequent discipline of Alex Rodriguez is about penalizing a player for his bad acts and how much of it is about kicking an unliked and unwanted player — and a player who makes an awful lot of money — out of the game simply because it would make most people feel good.

Of course, maybe it doesn’t go this far.  Maybe the point of this is to simply make Bud Selig look tough. After all, this very question — “Is Bud Selig going too far to fight the drug users?!” — serves his legacy interests very, very well.

152 Comments (Feed for Comments)
  1. jayscarpa - Jul 30, 2013 at 8:56 AM

    I must have missed the outrage from the Players Union – you know, the guys who would actually be affected by tearing up the drug agreement.

    • Kleinz 57 - Jul 30, 2013 at 10:03 AM

      I think the MLBPA has already shown whose side they’re really on in this whole Biogenesis mess

    • fanofevilempire - Jul 30, 2013 at 10:43 AM

      Preserve the integrity of the game, are you kidding me, this by a commissioner who has
      dragged his sport thru the mud and is dominating all the sports radio/ tv shows with PED’s.
      A guy who stood by as Bonds, McGuire and Sosa duped baseball fans.
      I hope Alex and his lawyers take on MLB.

      • giantsninerswarriors - Jul 30, 2013 at 3:39 PM

        ^ Irrational people are irrational.

    • amadorjon - Jul 30, 2013 at 11:35 AM

      the union isn’t stupid-going to bat for a bunch of A-Holes like A-Roid will put them on the wrong side of a potentioal public relations nightmare

      • amadorjon - Jul 30, 2013 at 11:36 AM

        sorry for spelling error-should probably put my contacts in

      • amadorjon - Jul 30, 2013 at 11:37 AM

        sorry for the spelling error, guess I should put my contacts in…………..

      • scotttheskeptic - Jul 30, 2013 at 2:09 PM

        Public-relations be damned. If MLBPA doesn’t so something to stop this, it should immediately be decertified. They exist, if for nothing else, to ensure that players are protected from the capricious actions of the owners/Commissioner.

    • zekeo1 - Jul 30, 2013 at 11:40 AM

      Total abuse of power. He was happy when they were using steroids. Saved baseball for and ad for worse. Is I]he in cohots with the Yankees. Innocent until proven guilty Braun got away with a gift. This is discriminatory against one player and does nothing to solve the problem. Colon will e protected because he has already been suspended. Where is the justice in that.
      Selig is a image hungry fool who acts as if he had nothing to do with steroids to begin with.

    • pjmarn6 - Jul 30, 2013 at 11:49 AM

      Craig Calceterra: Hate to break the news to you but more people read the Daily News sports section than your column. Not only have you demonstrated a profoundly pro PEDs attitude towards players but you have also condoned the players’ cheating and their right to use illegal substances to get into the HOF. You find any way to sling mud at anyone and everything that is pro cleaning up the game. You definitely show your bias rather than reporting the baseball events. Frankly that is why you are so despised.
      Reporting the baseball news is what a sports writer does. If you want to get on the opinion or opt ed page then renegotiate your contract with nbc and change the area your articles appear in. I definitely like Short’s column over yours. I only read your column to see what new crap you come up with each day to get a laugh.

      • beelza - Jul 30, 2013 at 12:21 PM

        … opt ed … These two words just killed the credibility of your 137 word comment.

      • ilovegspot - Jul 30, 2013 at 1:24 PM

        pjmarm is %100 correct about Craig. Always the PED apologist.

      • nightman13 - Jul 30, 2013 at 4:02 PM

        Transformers 2 drew over $500 million at the box office, doesn’t make it a good movie.

      • pjmarn6 - Jul 30, 2013 at 8:54 PM

        You want me to say gotta like Craig boy and make fun of “preserve the integrity of the game” as olde boy Craig does? Craig should start an new open baseball league, corked bats, spit balls, do away with the infield fly rule and let his players use any substance they want from Vaseline on the baseball to PEDs for the players. He can be the commissioner and run all the teams. Open up his own Hall of Cheats and vote them in.
        Then he could vote in all the cheaters, Bonds and the rest.
        Watching the voting here, I am sure that at least half the readers would be thrilled with a WWW of baseball. Maybe he could clone the black sox players and have them play for him too.

    • beelza - Jul 30, 2013 at 12:15 PM

      Cleveland Indians and Tribe Nation thank Detroit Tigers SS Jhonny Peralta for the AL Central crown 2013. So Jhonny, enjoy your vacation and have a couple more burritos.

      • jimeejohnson - Aug 1, 2013 at 8:25 PM

        Man cannot live by burritos alone, unless they come with avocado.

  2. sdelmonte - Jul 30, 2013 at 9:02 AM

    While the story is clearly Selig vs A-Rod, I have to wonder if this isn’t also a blow against the union. I bet that some owners see the power their colleagues in the other major sports have, and would love to diminish the MLBPA’s strength to match the rather weak unions elsewhere. Anything that hurts the players union, even at a time of unprecedented harmony, is going to get Selig support from that corner of the owners.

    And I am sure that Michael Weiner and his staff are not relishing the need to defend the most unpopular man in baseball.

    This isn’t to overplay this, or to forget that at the end of the days the MLBPA is not like most other unions, or most other working people. Everyone, even A-Rod, is going home with paychecks hundreds of times larger than the people who were out protesting at McDonald’s yesterday just for the right to even have an union. But sometimes the powerful love to remind anyone and everyone how powerful they are, and even men playing a boy’s game and being paid way too much can be under someone’s thumb.

    • bigharold - Jul 30, 2013 at 9:37 AM

      “Anything that hurts the players union, even at a time of unprecedented harmony, is going to get Selig support from that corner of the owners.”

      Interesting thought and perhaps dead on. The problem is, if so it would not only destroy the current momentum regarding ridding baseball of PEd use it would spin it 180 degrees and cause the union to fight for A-Rod tooth and nail.

      MLB is overplaying their hand and will end up going head to head against a union that has bested them ay every turn. Not to mention the law doesn’t appear to be on their side. This is not the smart thing to do and likely will lead to a player strike.

      To me this is more than just about nailing PED users. The owners want some way to get out from under guaranteed long term contracts and this is their starting point. They think they have the union on the run. If so they have badly miscalculated their current advantage.

      Good luck trying to prove A-Rod’s activities are so much worse than every other JDA violator and so bad that he must be banned. And, while most of the time I think, .. well it’s just the NYDN and you can’t take them too seriously, .. it seems s if they are becoming the official unofficial propaganda wing for MLB.

      • sdelmonte - Jul 30, 2013 at 9:54 AM

        They and a fair number of media outlets, including the Worldwide Leader and the two otherwise capable reporters from Outside the Lines who seem to be getting all the good exclusives.

  3. DelawarePhilliesFan - Jul 30, 2013 at 9:03 AM

    Blowing a gasket on a rumor…yea, that never bit you in the past.

    BTW, if we are the “anti-PED” crowd, doesn’t that make you pro-PED?

    • MattJanik - Jul 30, 2013 at 10:01 AM

      If being anti-McCarthy-esque witch hunts and pro-let’s-follow-the-damn-language-of-the-rules-that-were-negotiated-and-agreed-to-by-both-parties-instead-of-just-making-nonsense-up-as-we-go-along makes me “pro-PED”, then sure, sign me up. It’s the same way the pro-choice crowd isn’t “pro-abortion”, it’s just pro-the-right-of-a-woman-to-do-what-they-want-with-their-own-body.

      Or, you know, you can stick your fingers in your ears, say “Nyah nyah nyah, if you don’t want A-Rod suspended for life right now you must be pro-PED” and assume every issue has a clearly-demarcated “good” and “evil” side like a five-year-old.

      • DelawarePhilliesFan - Jul 30, 2013 at 10:04 AM

        McCarthy-esque? Oh good, I was worried no one would apply hyperbole

      • amadorjon - Jul 30, 2013 at 11:41 AM

        if I owned a team and a guy broke the law or rules to improve his performance at my expense after I gave him a big contract, then he commited fraud against me, and I should have every right to tear up our agreement and sue him…….

  4. fenway9999 - Jul 30, 2013 at 9:11 AM

    I don’t understand all of these responses that seem to be taking ARod’s side. It doesn’t make sense. The guy HAS used steroids and admitted it and now has been caught using again. IF, and that is a big IF, he also interfered with the investigation in any way (besides lying) then of course he deserves a more severe punishment. Bud is probably as disliked as ARod is so that to me is a wash. Baseball seems to be trying to apply pressure to get ARod to make a deal just like Braun did. By Braun agreeing to a deal he legitimized the evidence and the witnesses MLB have so if they also get ARod to agree to a deal then not a single player they suspend over this can win a fight. It is simply the best and most effective way for MLB to get this done and over with so everyone can move on. It is well within the rights of the commissioner to suspend him separately from the JDA so let’s stop with the Selig bashing as he isn’t the one who CHEATED!!!!

    • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Jul 30, 2013 at 9:23 AM

      IF, and that is a big IF, he also interfered with the investigation in any way (besides lying) then of course he deserves a more severe punishment.

      Ok, but what if he didn’t? Then his only transgression is taking PEDs, of which he’d be a first time offender under the rules, since using them in ’01 to ’03 wasn’t against baseball’s rules.

      So he’s a first time offender, why is he getting threatened with a lifetime ban? Those of us who are “defending him” are actually defending the language of the JDA/CBA, of which many people here want thrown away and just have Arod burned at the stake.

      • rpb1234 - Jul 30, 2013 at 10:00 AM

        According to SI,

        http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/mlb/news/20130729/alex-rodriguez-mlb-biogenesis-suspension.ap/?sct=hp_t2_a4&eref=sihp

        They seem to have other evidence (not saying that it is true)…

        “The Yankees expect Rodriguez to be accused of recruiting other athletes for the clinic, of attempting to obstruct MLB’s investigation, and of not being truthful with MLB in the past when he discussed his relationship with Dr. Anthony Galea, who pleaded guilty two years ago to a federal charge of bringing unapproved drugs into the United States from Canada.”

    • bigharold - Jul 30, 2013 at 9:59 AM

      fenway,

      Assuming that A-Rod used PEDs and assuming he lied, (which I don’t think actually rises to the level of obstructing the investigation but lets just say it does), there is a clear sanction for each of those transgressions and it doesn’t start at 200+ game suspension and it certainly isn’t a life time ban. MLB is looking to make an example out of A-Rod and they are ignoring the CBA and JDA to do it. How do you rationalize breaking the rules, the very contract that gives one the authority, to penalize a player for breaking the rules?

      MLB is risking jeopardizing the CBA and throwing away any willingness that the union has to cooperate. Unless they can prove that A-Rod’s actions were so much more and so much worse than any other player that has been caught this is over reach.

      If the end game is to rid MLB of PEDs and everybody is in agreement, it’s stupid to behave like MLB is acting, they are squandering a great opportunity. The union is not going to let them get away with and see it for what it is a chance to gain leverage over the union. A union that has beaten them in every engagement. And, since what MLB appears to want to do violates the JDA it doesn’t appear that the law is on their side so they are likely to get their ass handed to them again.

      • fenway9999 - Jul 30, 2013 at 10:49 AM

        Aren’t we all making assumptions based on various reports? My ASSUMPTION ( and yes it could easily be wrong) is that he has done far more than just use PED’s. He tried to buy evidence, possibly strong arm witnesses, and possibly recruit other players. That to me is far more egregious than using the PED’s. The using and the lying are the minor infractions which would require only a 50 game suspension, but if the rest is also true then shouldn’t he get more than the minimum games?

      • bigharold - Jul 30, 2013 at 11:07 AM

        I’m with you on the assumption thing. We are all speculating because MLB has scene fit to leak what they want.

        But, even if he obstructed and sold, as was pointed out in another post, .. there are sanctions for that in the JDA. And, it still doesn’t start at 200+ games or lifetime ban.

        This is not about defending A-Rod. It’s more about marveling at the stupidity of MLB wasting a good opportunity to work with the union to make real progress in eliminating PEDs in baseball. Instead they seem to want a confrontation which will lead to the union hardening their position on everything.

        Nobody can do more harm to A-Rod than he’s done to himself. Give him his 50 or 100 suspension and lay out the evidence. It will be several more bricks in the wall that has seen his career take on the elements of a Greek tragedy. The way this is going MLB stands a very good chance of over playing their hand and losing the battle with A-Rod and turning the union back into their arch enemy rather than partner, .. essentially losing the war too.

      • bh192012 - Jul 30, 2013 at 1:10 PM

        You don’t know if he lied, you don’t know if he did more than lie. You don’t know if he sold. You don’t know if he sold to many players. You don’t know if he bought evidence. You don’t know if he used, how much or of what. ARod may have pressured and distributed to 20 players. You have nothing. What is the point of this.

    • andrewproughcfe - Jul 30, 2013 at 10:56 AM

      @fenway9999 – >”Bud is probably as disliked as ARod is so that to me is a wash.”

      Just like Bart Giamatti vs Pete Rose was a wash? But Giamatti has long-since passed away, while MLB execs, and owners have been stuck with Rose as a PR thorn in their side ever since.

      • fenway9999 - Jul 30, 2013 at 11:01 AM

        My only intent in my comment was to mean that the dislike for either guy shouldn’t sway the judgments being made.

      • bigdicktater - Jul 30, 2013 at 2:18 PM

        Imho, Bart Giamatti did the right thing and followed the rules in banning Rose. Rose knew the consequences, his gambling was not a one-time thing, and he got to appeal. Since then no major league players, coaches, or managers have been accused of gambling, have they?

        With all that said, I’m no A-Rod fan, but he deserves protections afforded by the JDA, etc.

  5. ermur22 - Jul 30, 2013 at 9:12 AM

    13arod——-Give it a rest, your fav player is a cheating fraud. I hope it is true and he never steps foot on the field again

  6. ctony1216 - Jul 30, 2013 at 9:25 AM

    [Scene in a Florida bar] Bud Selig and Alex Rodriguez standing nose to nose …

    Selig: “I’m going to bury you, A-Rod!”
    A-Rod: “Bring it on, old man”
    Guy at next table: “Hey, Selig, either take a swing or STFU, I’m watching a game here, jeez!”

    I get the feeling Selig is afraid to take a swing, or he would have done it already.

  7. paperlions - Jul 30, 2013 at 9:28 AM

    Does anyone really want a game in which players can be tossed from the league on the commissioner’s whim and with no ability to appeal such unilateral decisions?

    As much as I dislike ARod, I don’t want that to be a viable option. You have a CBA and a JDA, just follow the damned things, it isn’t that hard.

    • DelawarePhilliesFan - Jul 30, 2013 at 9:48 AM

      It is a valid point to be sure – but I would hardly call this a whim.

      • paperlions - Jul 30, 2013 at 9:50 AM

        Well, it isn’t because he’s following the rules of the CBA or JDA. He isn’t following procedure, protocol, or the spirit or intent of their collectively bargained contracts….so what would you call it? Revenge?

      • DelawarePhilliesFan - Jul 30, 2013 at 9:54 AM

        They did not go looking for the Biogenesis thing, it fell into their lap. Say what you want about how it should be handled, but this was not something MLB dug up, a newspaper did. And that story broke in January – a whim would be a Feb 10th announcement.

      • paperlions - Jul 30, 2013 at 9:56 AM

        The punishment is the whim, not the situation. Of course ARod should have the book thrown at him, but that book was already written. They are just making shit up as they go along, which is pretty much the definition of a whim.

      • DelawarePhilliesFan - Jul 30, 2013 at 10:03 AM

        Longest whim I have ever seen

      • tgthree - Jul 30, 2013 at 10:19 AM

        Paper, you say that A-Rod should have “the book thrown at him.” Does that collectively-bargained book not also include the right of the commissioner to invoke the “integrity of the game” clause? People seem to be forgetting that that clause is collectively bargained as well, and there are so many overlapping violations here–let’s not forget that his little publicity stunt sending his doctor on the radio also potentially violates the CBA–that Selig may be warranted in pulling out that clause.

        Note that I say “may be” because I seem to be one of the few willing to acknowledge that we don’t know everything that MLB has on Rodriguez, but I just wish everyone would quit acting like Selig’s right to invoke the integrity clause isn’t an actual, legitimate, and most of all, collectively-bargained rule.

      • timburns116 - Jul 30, 2013 at 10:54 AM

        Tg, it’s not. Those sorts of clause are negotiated for extreme and unique situations. A-Rod is not extreme and definitely not unique since there are tools within the CBAto handle it. Selig, like he did in 1994, is trying to squash the union and, like ’94, the second this gets in front of an arbitrator/NRLB, he will lose

    • bigharold - Jul 30, 2013 at 10:05 AM

      “Does anyone really want a game in which players can be tossed from the league on the commissioner’s whim and with no ability to appeal such unilateral decisions?”

      Well I’m pretty sure the Union doesn’t and I’m pretty sure that they’ll fight to stop it. MLB is picking a fight with an organization that has won every engagement between the two and the law seems to be with the union on this one too.

      • pjmarn6 - Jul 30, 2013 at 12:01 PM

        Paperlions…. you mean that ethics and morality should be tossed aside because they are not written into the CBA and JDA? Therefore Rodriguez should have a clean slate even though he cheated to get that first quarter of a BILLION dollar contract?

      • paperlions - Jul 30, 2013 at 12:40 PM

        Perspective pjmarn. Owners lie and defraud cities of hundreds of millions of dollars and refuse to open their books while they are begging for money and engaging in extortion. Owner regularly collude to try to keep salaries down in violation of the CBA. MLB and the owners as a group have no history of demonstrating anything at all resembling ethics of morals….and these are the people that you think are suited to mete out punishment and sit in judgement of others for their poor character?

        The owners have worked hard to screw the public out of far more than 1/4 billion dollars.

      • bigharold - Jul 30, 2013 at 6:48 PM

        ” … you mean that ethics and morality should be tossed aside because they are not written into the CBA and JDA?”

        This is about contract law and the JDA addresses A-Rods alleged transgressions. MLB has unilaterally decided to impose their own brand of rough justice. It will do more harm than good.

        Trying to legislate or codify ethics is difficult. You can’t account for every possibility to you are always left with someone interpreting what is or isn’t ethical or moral. And, the ironic thing about ethics and morals is the people that need them least don’t need them written down and the people that need them the most won’t read them or follow them if they do read them.

  8. joeyg88 - Jul 30, 2013 at 10:11 AM

    Let them all do drugs!!! Il pay for season tickets

    • pjmarn6 - Jul 31, 2013 at 8:14 PM

      paperlions….if your friend jumped off a cliff, would you too? Where did I say that the greedy owners who looked the other way on the steroid/PEDs only to steal money from the gullible public were lily white? I have known for a long time, the further you go up the food chain the more cheating, thievery, blatant abuse occurs. Just look at congress, the president and all politicians. I believe there are 536 congressmen and senators. 99% of them are multimillionaires and they all seek and demand money to run ridiculously expensive long campaigns, making the same speeches tailored to the polls that were taken for each whistlestop.
      In short I am saying, the players don’t have to cheat and take millions they don’t deserve because the owners and partners in the ball clubs do it. As my father, once said, how many toilets can you use at the same time? I say there is no way to extend the 24 hours in a day. You don’t have to cheat, lie or steal to enjoy life. That goes for the owners and the ball players.

  9. tgthree - Jul 30, 2013 at 10:21 AM

    So what percentage of the comments on this post do we think were made by people who have actually read the JDA in its 36-page (gasp!) entirety?

    • timburns116 - Jul 30, 2013 at 10:55 AM

      Care to point to the clause which says he can leave it

  10. mrpictureman - Jul 30, 2013 at 10:22 AM

    Hey just cause ARod had Arizona Watermelon and Skittles does not mean he was going to mix it with Robitussin. It’s baseballs fault leave the man alone!

  11. weaselpuppy - Jul 30, 2013 at 10:25 AM

    Look, just suspend him for all of his behaviors, consecutively, with the drug use last. 80 to 100 days for recruiting players to use PEDs ( drug sealing as above), then however many days it can be determined is salient for the obstruction of the investigation, then however many days for the lying about Galea and his setup, THEN 50 days for PED use ( or the next step up if they can use his previous admissions as evidence for PED use in the past)…tote that up and he’s done. I don’t care if the Yankees are on the hook for the contract or not, really. If they want to get out from under it, let them cancel it due to misrepresentation of his abilities via PED use (love to see that can of worms open up, truthfully). I just hope that loser scumbag never sees a stadium again w/o buying a ticket.

    • timburns116 - Jul 30, 2013 at 10:57 AM

      Just stupid.

  12. sandrafluke2012 - Jul 30, 2013 at 11:18 AM

    Arod=Apple Executives on capitol hill getting blamed for “avoiding” taxes

  13. joowishy - Jul 30, 2013 at 11:21 AM

    Aroid knows not to cheat. Has been caught cheating. And continues to cheat. Enough is enough. To say he deserves Due Process. This isn’t court, it’s baseball. He won’t play clean, so take away his ability to play. Tired of drug addicts. If this were crack u would want him in jail. Well he’s a steroid ADDICT. If you’re willing to throw away $100 million to take steroids. You’re an ADDICT. Kick his sorry ass out. Forever.

  14. ssazz - Jul 30, 2013 at 11:25 AM

    So, Craig has disdain for the “anti-PED crowd” and those that carry water for them, huh? (Shocking!)

    Last time I checked though the MLPA (and most living members of the HOF) were also all part of “anti-PED crowd” as well.

    And that makes the pro-PED crowd, and those that carry water for them, just look more and more silly every day.

  15. CyclePower - Jul 30, 2013 at 11:30 AM

    “carrying the anti-PED crowd’s water?” ….so now to be against PEDs in baseball is considered a perjorative? Craig, in the course of a week you’ve argued that Braun does not owe fans an apology, Bonds is the greatest player of all time and should be in the HOF, that aggressively going after drug cheats somehow violates their rights to due process, and now, labeling those who think otherwise with some blanket moniker. You’ve now made it into a partisan issue, complete with the demonization of the other side and the name calling. Look at how the comments here have degenerated? Congratulations.

    As for due process, the methods by which baseball enforces it’s rules or maintains order or protects its product is not the criminal justice system. Baseball is a private entity. Baseball does not send you to jail. It’s absurd that one has to point this out to a writer who is legally trained.

    Arod can contest the results, whatever they may be, in civil court. He has the financial and legal resources. It is his right. But to say that his fundamental rights to due process are being traduced is silly.

    If Arod feels as if the league is in violation of any agreement, then he has both the player’s union and the civil court system to utilize. It’s pretty telling, however, that the union is staying silent. Baseball, which includes the owners, players and, by extension, the union, are finally realizing that not dealing with PEDs aggressively hurts the game. When a player (Skip Schumacker) publicly calls for Braun’s lifetime ban you know there’s a sea change underway. Oh, but I guess Schumacker is part of that “anti PED crowd.” Selig is responding in part to changing attitudes.

    And further, even though there’s this first violation agreement, it is an entirely valid legal strategy to go after him for other violations, namely obstructing their investigation. People in the real CJS are charged with obstruction all the time. This is how feds go after mobsters. A sitting President has been forced to resign, and another sitting President was impeached for obstruction. With that as precedent, there’s no way you can plausibly argue that MLB is violating his rights by using an obstruction strategy.

    I hope your readers realize that you are NOT an objective rational voice here.

    • ilovegspot - Jul 30, 2013 at 1:49 PM

      cyclepoers is $100 dead on with his take. Braun doesn’t owe anyone an apology. How about his parents, family, and fiance. I’m sure he lied to them too. I don’t know how this guy even has a job here.

    • lambo1332 - Jul 30, 2013 at 3:50 PM

      That sums up exactly how I feel about what this clown Craig just wrote in his post and his overall attitude toward PED users.

      Thank you for perfectly putting this in writing. Just don’t hold your breath waiting for that coward to respond to your post.

  16. bh0673 - Jul 30, 2013 at 11:35 AM

    It is becoming a distraction and with the trading deadline a day away MLB needs to either come out with suspensions or knock it off. I am by no means a fan of Arod but I am also tired of the headlines everyday about looming suspensions. This is the time of the year that the trade deadline should be the main focus but no MLB has to play this waiting game to over shadow the sport worse then PED’s in the first place. In 2003 when Arod was first accused of steroid use and all the headlines back then were about Arod instead of the other 749 players and the start of the season it pissed me off. I still would spit on Selena Roberts if I ever met her for ruining spring training for me that yea,r not that I have carried a grudge to this day. Now here we are again an Arod story but I have to blame MLB either get on with it or shut up already.

  17. hitdog042 - Jul 30, 2013 at 11:36 AM

    Proudly Canadian: bonds didn’t play with this CBA. C’mon. I know the Jays stink as predicted but even you should know that one.

  18. dlhouse18 - Jul 30, 2013 at 11:51 AM

    Hmm, I hate Selig and I hate A-Rod. Can both sides just lose?

    Ok, but on a more serious comment, when will Selig just stop? He’s a power hungry wannabe dictator who will try to do whatever he wants to get his way. Let’s tear apart a drug agreement that is sufficient just because Bud hates ONE player enough to try it. I feel like he never even thinks about the transgressions following his actions. This hurts union relations, causes another deprecating stir/distraction from actual baseball, and worst of all, it helps the Yankees! Follow the current rules and handle it how it’s supposed to. It’s bad enough that A-Rod’s impending suspension is taking weeks to actually be enacted.

  19. djpostl - Jul 30, 2013 at 12:02 PM

    “he is still owed due process. Everyone is.”

    Funny. because in the real world it doesn’t work that way, at least not in the workplace. Which is exactly what this is, a workplace issue, not one that is a court of law.

    Maybe you should try getting a real job some time, not just being a lawyer or blogger, to see just how easy it is for some big corporate monstrosity to toss you out on your ass with absolutely zero due process.

  20. beelza - Jul 30, 2013 at 12:04 PM

    Heavy handed tactics used simultaneously with offering “deals” combined with using ESPN to propagate MLB’s agenda all add up to one thing: Bud Selig has the weakest of cases against players like Jhonny Peralta whom have never tested positive. But, when your only evidence comes by way of one witness, whose character has been impeached repeatedly, unsound legal tactics are all that’s left. This is a political witch hunt and the only reason it is not being handled by the corrupt DC politicians is their approval rating is <.20. If Selig has rock solid cases against all the players why not just suspend all players? Why the public bargaining? What is taking so long? Using public opinion as leverage when only shoddy hearsay exists

    • ssazz - Jul 30, 2013 at 12:37 PM

      Huh, makes you wonder why Braun caved then if MLB’s case is so weak? He was more than fine fighting (and bald face lying) before, why switch now if he’s in the “clear”? (pun, slightly intended)

      If it’s just shoddy hearsay from one impeached source, then you’re right, the players can freely explain to investigators what their association was with this PED distributor in first place and nothing at all should come of it. Why don’t they then? If A-Rod can explain away, the texts and emails, and payments, etc with the simple explanation that Bosch is lying and not to be trusted then he’ll be back on the diamond in no time. Problem solved!

      • beelza - Jul 30, 2013 at 10:35 PM

        ARod and Braun, Colon and Melky have all tested positive. My post targets the lack of evidence, direct evidence, against Peralta, Cruz etc.

  21. dsharpe8 - Jul 30, 2013 at 12:05 PM

    If everything A-Fraud is accused of is true, then he deserves to be banned for life for being a habitual PED user and obstructing the investigation. A-Fraud seems to have no sense of how he’s perceived in the public’s eye especially if its really true that his personality is this arrogant.

  22. galtur - Jul 30, 2013 at 12:06 PM

    A few things reported leave me thinking MLB has a lot on him, and MLB knows the support will be there once it is all out there, otherwise it wouldn’t be taking the leap for something like a life-time ban.
    Supposedly MLB has a cache of evidence like receipts/accounting, e-mail, and texts in addition to the testimony from Bosch. One of Bosch’s associates is saying he’s been approached for a deal by players, followed suspiciously and confronted in an intimidating manner. (If anyone was going to go the intimidation route my money would be on A-rod. Just because . . . and I know its weak, but just because). Supposedly A-rod left his meeting with MLB visibly “shaken”. I know that is evidence of nothing, but unless you’re in Selig’s office, all any of us can do is read the tea leaves. (In short, I’m buying the reports that MLB has a lot on him). And then there is the connection with the Canadian doctor, Galea. Didn’t he say he was using Galea for B-12 shots? I wasn’t buying that at the time.
    As it is, it seems clear he’s been using since 2002. His use of PEDs led to fraudulently attaining a $275 million dollar contract. Any boss in America would be outraged about being taken for $275 million. (say he’s worth half that w/o the PEDs – what boss just brushes off being taken for $137 million?) The 2009 WS title seems at least a little questionable – if I’m Cliff Lee I feel a bit cheated. If he was in fact recruiting/enticing guys (presumably teammates) to Biogenesis, he is seriously undermining the integrity of competition. More so than Rose betting on games he wasn’t involved in. Lets assume he was making extreme efforts to cover it up, going so far as intimidation, I don’t think its overreaching to try to get him out of the game on way or another. That being said, he should have an opportunity to attack and confront the evidence against him.

  23. chiadam - Jul 30, 2013 at 12:39 PM

    OK, so Selig is basically making up the rules as he goes now. Got it. Get him out, but do it the right way.

    Oh, and don’t use steroids to cash in and then get outraged later.

  24. lawson1974 - Jul 30, 2013 at 2:05 PM

    If the union doesn’t fight this, then there is no point in having one.

  25. mrpinkca - Jul 30, 2013 at 11:06 PM

    The beauty of collective bargaining is that he can’t.

    How big is his retirement bonus from the Yankees if he does manage to get A-Rod out of the game?

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