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Orioles land Bud Norris from Astros

Jul 31, 2013, 3:33 PM EDT

bud norris getty Getty Images’s Ken Rosenthal reports that the Orioles are in the process of finalizing a deal that would net them Bud Norris from Houston in return for outfielder L.J. Hoes and a second player. The Baltimore Sun’s Dan Connolly says the second player is left-hander Josh Hader. The Astros will also get a competitive balance pick from the Orioles that should come in around 40th overall in next year’s draft.

Rosenthal says the Orioles beat out the Diamondbacks for Norris’s services.

Norris figures to bump Jason Hammel from a Baltimore rotation that also includes Miguel Gonzalez, Chris Tillman, Wei-Yin Chen and Scott Feldman. Norris is 6-9 with a 3.93 ERA and a 90/43 K/BB ratio in 126 innings for the Astros this season. He’s making $3 million this year in his first year of arbitration and he’s under control through 2016.

Hoes, 23, was just called up by the Orioles this week after hitting .304/.406/.403 with three homers and seven steals in 365 at-bats for Triple-A Norfolk. The former second baseman doesn’t have the power one wants from a corner outfielder, but he might be a useful part-timer with his on-base skills. The Astros could stick him right on the major league roster after sending Justin Maxwell to Kansas City earlier this afternoon.

Hader, 19, was 3-6 with a 2.65 ERA and a 79/42 K/BB ratio in 85 innings for low Single-A Delmarva this season. He was a 19th-round pick last year, and rated him as the Orioles’ No. 5 prospect at midseason.

  1. dowhatifeellike - Jul 31, 2013 at 3:40 PM

    2/1 K/BB ratio? Sigh. This team has like a dozen #4-5 starters on the depth charts now. Haven’t had a solid #1-2 duo since Mussina and Erickson.

    • brianforster - Jul 31, 2013 at 3:49 PM

      i don’t really know what you were expecting.. the orioles could not afford anyone that is good enough to bump chen/tillman/gonzalez out of the top 3.

      we landed a guy that garnered plenty of interest from the teams we are competing with and we gave up somebody who we did not see as a part of our future.

      what is not to like about this?

      • alang3131982 - Jul 31, 2013 at 4:06 PM

        you dont have to be expecting anything to be luckwarm on the deal. Is NOrris that much better than Hammel? man, i dont know. it’s certainly not a slam dunk. I dont mind losing Hoes but thaat draft pick seems a little steep.

      • dowhatifeellike - Jul 31, 2013 at 4:32 PM

        It feels like a deal made for the sake of making a deal. Is Norris really a better starter than every one of these guys?


        I don’t really care about losing Hoes. You can get a backup OF lacking power anywhere. It just feels like a lateral move for a team that already has an overabundance of mediocre arms. This team needs better arms, not just more of them.

    • revolution311 - Jul 31, 2013 at 3:54 PM

      His K/BB ratio could also be skewed by his need to try to be perfect all of the time with an Astros hitting lineup that can’t back him up.

      He’d probably have a winning record in Baltimore with his ERA. Hopefully by the end of the season he will.

      • kevinbnyc - Jul 31, 2013 at 4:51 PM

        Haven’t you heard? Wins don’t matter.

    • Detroit Michael - Jul 31, 2013 at 4:34 PM

      Norris’ K/BB ratio was more like 2.5 during 2011-12, so there’s a solid chance that it’ll improve from what he’s done so far during 2013.

      • 18thstreet - Jul 31, 2013 at 5:13 PM

        Moving to the AL East will definitely help.


  2. proudlycanadian - Jul 31, 2013 at 3:41 PM

    Norris just had a bump in his fantasy value. He will get more run support in Baltimore than in Houston. For purely selfish reasons, I am disappointed that Hammel will be removed from the Baltimore rotation.

  3. theaxmancometh - Jul 31, 2013 at 3:42 PM

    Pretty sad trade market when of the big names is Bud friggin Norris

    • southpaw2k - Jul 31, 2013 at 3:51 PM

      I remember back around 2005-ish the big trade name was Mike Stanton, the middle reliever. That’s way worse.

  4. tigers182 - Jul 31, 2013 at 3:51 PM

    They gettin hoes in return?! That’s dope!

    • historiophiliac - Jul 31, 2013 at 3:54 PM

      I totally just got to text my buddy: “giving up hoes & hader.” lol

  5. corvusrex96 - Jul 31, 2013 at 3:52 PM

    Astros must be happy to get Hoes in exchange for a #4 starter . Seems like a good deal

  6. modellforprez - Jul 31, 2013 at 3:53 PM

    Thank god Neal H. didnt bite on this clown the guy is 6-9 and he is a stud. Look what cump did last night i would rather keep him than deal prospects for Budley Norris

  7. ravensfan8780 - Jul 31, 2013 at 4:09 PM

    That extra wildcard spot has really made the trade deadline boring

  8. bmoreballers - Jul 31, 2013 at 4:13 PM

    Giving up hoes to get some bud, let’s go os

  9. DJ MC - Jul 31, 2013 at 4:14 PM

    This is a nice deal for both sides.

    Norris replaces Jason Hammel in the rotation. Right now, even if the Orioles don’t have a true “ace”, they are likely to get a good start out of four of the five in the rotation. Hammel is the weak link, and Norris fills that hole.

    Hoes has one major problem: he can’t play the infield. If he could he likely would be at worst a Jonathon Schoop-type prospect in the system, and probably an established major-league starter already. He’ll be a solid player for Houston, even if he’s only a fourth-outfielder once they build their team.

    • psuorioles - Jul 31, 2013 at 4:52 PM

      I’m a believer that Chen is a true Ace… A lot of people may disagree with me, but the guy is a stud. Look at the numbers.

  10. sportsdrenched - Jul 31, 2013 at 4:22 PM

    best trade since Fister for Furbush!

  11. steelerofthedraft - Jul 31, 2013 at 4:47 PM

    Britton isn’t reliable at all , starting to look like a bust
    Wada is hurt so yes Norris is better than a guy that can’t pitch…
    Garcia , really? A 40 year old whose fast ball tops out at 85
    Matusz , idk if you’ve watched the orioles in a year but matusz was converted to a reliever and a pretty damn solid one at that
    Hunter , you really want “big game” tommy hunter going every 5th day ? The guy can barely be a decent set up man
    Gausman, I love gausman and the potential he has but at this point it’s just potential , why mess up a young kids psychy , let him dominate at triple-A for two more months and being him up when rosters expand.
    So to answer your question , yes bud Norris better than all of said pitchers.

  12. fukpittsburgh - Jul 31, 2013 at 4:48 PM

    Just a stroll across the diamond. This guy is much better than Hammel. Hammel has been pure garbage this year. In fact he has been garbage pretty much his whole career. Statistically speaking, the only time he was halfway decent was half of last year which was already shortened due to injury in the first place. Glad to see him go.

  13. joeflaccosunibrow - Jul 31, 2013 at 4:49 PM

    Bumping a 5.2 ERA for 3.93
    Good deal, especially since he is not just a rental.

    Let’s hope that Hader isn’t the second coming of Randy Johnson, and more like Adam Loewen.

  14. rockthered1286 - Jul 31, 2013 at 4:54 PM

    I called this yesterday! With Jones and Markakis locked up, Nate bound to sign an extension and Xavier Avery waiting in the wings Hoes was expendable. And the best part of this? Hammel in the pen and out of the rotation. All of Baltimore just took a collective sigh of relief.

  15. mp1113 - Jul 31, 2013 at 5:28 PM

    Hammel is on the dl. So yes Norris is better than him

  16. theinconvienenttruth - Jul 31, 2013 at 5:58 PM

    Damn proud of this deal and here’s why:

    We got a starter who is hungry to join a winning team for the first time
    We knock out Hammel out of the rotation (awful this year)
    We gave up an OF prospect (we have organization depth there)
    He’s only 28
    And he’s under team control for at least 2015
    We didn’t give up Bundy, Gausman, Schoop, ERod

  17. @Cereal_22 - Jul 31, 2013 at 7:53 PM

    Norris’ #’s will look better with the O’s studly defense behind him.

  18. Bob - Aug 1, 2013 at 9:43 AM

    Great. The Astros trade a decent starting pitcher under club control for at least another two years for a slap-hitting OF, a low-A starting pitcher and a draft pick. Smells like another salary dump by the guy running the group that overpaid for the Astros, didn’t have the money to overpay for them and doesn’t have a TV deal.

    And on top of that, a group that threw away 51 years and agreed to a league switch at gunpoint to a league with the Yankees and Red Sox and 13 other teams that are average-or-worse draws for attendance.

    Terrific. The franchise will be respectable in 2015 or earlier, so they say. Can’t wait.

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