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The Mets have nothing going on

Jul 31, 2013, 12:11 PM EDT

Bobby Parnell AP

For the second year in a row, the Mets are prepared to sit out the trade deadline, according to the New York Post’s Joel Sherman, even as they seem well on their way to a fifth straight sub-.500 season.

The Mets haven’t shown any interest in moving pieces like closer Bobby Parnell and second baseman Daniel Murphy, and the lone veteran they seem open to moving, outfielder Marlon Byrd, isn’t drawing much interest from contender, even though he’s been very useful while hitting .282/.325/.512 with 17 homers in 330 at-bats this season.

While the Mets certainly have their reasons for keeping players like Parnell, Murphy and right-hander Dillon Gee, the fact is that they have to give something to get something. And since they’ve been unable to sign veterans and turn them into summer trade bait, all they really have to barter with is the young-ish players they’ve developed themselves.

  1. mattlukethompson - Jul 31, 2013 at 12:25 PM

    Yeah, it’s crazy that they aren’t actively trying to trade away Daniel Murphy, a career .270-.300 hitter, so they can get another bat. I mean, it’s not like they’re going to have 50-60 million to play with once the Bay and Santana money comes off the books. And with such scrubs as Wheeler, Harvey, Gee, and Niese in the rotation, they’re definitely going to need to rebuild and get rid of the likes of Murphy so they can rebuild next year.


    • imnotyourbuddyguy - Jul 31, 2013 at 12:47 PM

      How do you become a career .270-.300 hitter?

      • mattlukethompson - Jul 31, 2013 at 1:58 PM

        I’m sorry, is Daniel Murphy’s BA not .298 after 5 seasons? Next time I’ll look it up so your grammar/syntax butthole doesn’t get all tingly

  2. dondada10 - Jul 31, 2013 at 12:25 PM

    This is Parnell’s first really solid year. Trading him would almost be selling low, IMO. If he continues pitching well next year, and the Mets aren’t contending, then I can see him being moved for far more than he would’ve fetched this year.

    There being no interest in Byrd is strange. I know he was suspended for PEDs, but he’s hit well this year and is a lot better in the outfield than I expected. Plus he’s making the minimum. The Mets didn’t trade Scott Hairston last year for the purposes of fielding a somewhat competent line-up. I wonder if it’s that as opposed to other teams not calling about Byrd.

    • kevinbnyc - Jul 31, 2013 at 12:37 PM

      Or he could go back to sucking next year, in which case now would be the “selling-high” point. A closer on a team that might win 80 games seems pretty expendable. Especially when a lot of contending teams are reportedly looking for bullpen help.

    • Francisco (FC) - Jul 31, 2013 at 1:26 PM

      Perhaps other teams are concerned Byrd will be one of the Biogenesis mystery names?

      • dondada10 - Jul 31, 2013 at 1:54 PM

        If anything, he’s already served that suspension the same way Colon and Melky aren’t facing additional time.

  3. sdelmonte - Jul 31, 2013 at 12:28 PM

    I think it would be silly to trade any of the team’s better young players right now. They’re coming into their own, they have lower contracts and would be under the Mets’ control for a while, and I can’t imagine the trade value for anyone but maybe Parnell would be very high at all.

    The only piece worth trading is Byrd, and as noted no one really wants him. Never mind that for all of the offseason all I saw was how bad the Mets’ outfield was. Well, now it’s better and all anyone is saying is to make it bad again by trading Byrd. Which is it?

    I don’t suppose anyone wants Valdespin, though? He’s raking it in Vegas, but I don’t see him coming back anytime soon.

    • mattlukethompson - Jul 31, 2013 at 12:30 PM

      Valdespin is too insane and if someone like David Wright doesn’t want him around the clubhouse then you know this guy is a nut. I agree – I think someone like the Rangers or Sox could use Marlon. That being said, I wouldn’t mind seeing him on the bench next year, he’s a great team mate apparently.

    • biasedhomer - Jul 31, 2013 at 12:38 PM

      Pretty sure there are teams that would want Byrd (like Texas and the possible Nelson Cruz suspension), but the cost would be too high as the Mets have said they will not move him.

  4. tbutler704 - Jul 31, 2013 at 12:40 PM

    “While the Mets certainly have their reasons for keeping players like Parnell, Murphy and right-hander Dillon Gee, the fact is that they have to give something to get something.”

    Hogwash. Taking money out of one pocket and putting it in another doesn’t make you richer. The Mets need to sign a couple good hitters and add to their team. They’ll be fine.

    • imnotyourbuddyguy - Jul 31, 2013 at 12:53 PM

      Sure, if you want to settle for “Fine”
      I’d be more interested in winning consistently and competing for Championships. Developing young and controllable players is the best way to achieve that.

      You suggest throwing money at players as a fix in order to be “fine”.
      Like the Angels did with Pujols and Hamilton?

      Come on man
      The Mets best plan is to collect prospects, slim the payroll and wait 2-3 seasons and then start spending.

      • tbutler704 - Jul 31, 2013 at 1:08 PM

        I would agree with just about everything you said…..if it were 2011 and the Mets hadn’t spend the last two years doing all of this. Try and keep up.

        Now that the Mets have a good, young nucleus of players and tens of millions of dollars coming off their payroll after this year, yes indeed this is when they should “throw money at players” as you say. And if you want to say nobody should ever sign free agents because of a couple bad deals (so far) by Anaheim….well God bless you have a right to that, um, limited view of things.

      • imnotyourbuddyguy - Jul 31, 2013 at 1:19 PM

        Let’s talk about limited views of things.

        You seem to think adding 2 bats in FA is going to add the 25 wins the Mets need to take them from where they are now, to where they need to be.

        Seriously? No matter how much the pitching grows, 2 bats and that growth is not adding 25 more wins.

        Not even close

        You’re argument is, you’re tired of rebuilding and instead of seeing it to the end you wanna break off early and risk making those rebuild years moot.

        (talk about limited view of things)

      • tbutler704 - Jul 31, 2013 at 1:41 PM

        “You’re argument is, you’re tired of rebuilding and instead of seeing it to the end you wanna break off early and risk making those rebuild years moot.”

        *your argument….but who’s counting….

        This is probably someone’s argument, like a Yankee fan for example, but its not mine at all.

        Here’s what the Mets have: Wheeler, Gee, Harvey, and Niese. That’s four young good to great pitchers. You start there. They have a player in Parnell who might be a good permanent closer only time will tell. Then, the infield where they have a catcher from Toronto (injured) they’re very high on in D’Arnaud, David Wright, Daniel Murphy. SS and 1B can use some improvement for sure (1B answer may very well be on the team already with Lucas Duda, b/c Ike is an utter disaster…).

        Then you turn to the Met outfield….where other than Marlon Byrd overachieving the Mets cupboard is bare.

        Now, if they can draft and/or find prospects that can play their outfield wonderful. But the farm probably can’t get you that far. This is where Sandy Alderson will have to get the Wilpons to come off some $$$ or you’re right the Mets will be locked in a mediocre to piss poor state.

        You say this is “throwing money at players” because OMG Albert Pujols….I’m sorry that strikes me as silly. You add to the team now, not trade off your closer for an outfielder, only to turn around and need a closer. Teams play that ridiculous game forever.

      • imnotyourbuddyguy - Jul 31, 2013 at 3:30 PM

        MEts fans sound like Phillie fans these days

  5. jayscarpa - Jul 31, 2013 at 12:49 PM

    Alderson doesn’t strike me as a do something for the sake of doing something kind of GM. Darnell and Murphy are cheap, play well, and the fans like them.

  6. jimboslice1 - Jul 31, 2013 at 1:54 PM

    Harvey. Wheeler. Mejia. Niese. Gee. Syndergaard. Montero. Hefner. That’s 7 pitchers for the future. We could trade 1. Preferably Gee. Lowest ceiling.

  7. mazblast - Jul 31, 2013 at 4:27 PM

    The Mets are smart to not trade any of their young core, be it good, bad, ugly, or indifferent.

    Wait, did I just use the words “Mets” and “smart” in the same sentence???

    Of course, being the Mets, they have to do something dumb when they do something smart, and not actively seeking a deal for Byrd is that dumb thing.

    Still, on balance, not doing anything at the deadline is a net plus for a franchise that rarely does anything on the plus side.

  8. millertime1101 - Jul 31, 2013 at 4:46 PM

    Its really to bad they could make a run at moving up in division at least don’t they under stand that if you make a effort more players will want to come to team they need to get rid of Ike davis so what are they waiting for another Jason bay and try to get one more quality starter and some other small pieces get so vets in there and be competitive they are so close to being a good team again in the east

    • tbutler704 - Jul 31, 2013 at 5:22 PM

      The Mets are gonna surprise everyone I think next year….assuming Sandy Alderson actually is given a real budget to get some outfielders. Even with just a few pieces added between the outfield and 1B, maybe SS, they can be a +.500 team then build from there.

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