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Not so fast, Pirates: The Marlins say no one made them an offer for Giancarlo Stanton

Aug 2, 2013, 1:53 PM EDT

This all moot, basically, as Giancarlo Stanton is still a Marlin. But it’s interesting all the same.

After the trade deadline passed there was a report that the Pirates made a serious offer for Giancarlo Stanton that “turned the heads” of the Marlins front office. Clark Spencer of the Miami Herald, however, says that’s not the case:

 

Given how great the Pirates season is going it seems unlikely that anyone there would feel a need to float a bogus story about just how hard they’re trying to improve the team. My guess: this is a game of telephone, in which one person said “we called ‘em” and as it got passed down the line to the reporter it had morphed into “sure, we made a big offer!”  It’s like “Vermin is going to kill Johnny’s brother at the Savoy Theater tomorrow night.”

Wait, you telling me you don’t watch that movie once a month? You should.

  1. icanspeel - Aug 2, 2013 at 1:59 PM

    It’s not the first time this has happened with Stanton. I remember before the season started a few teams were said to be discussing things and then quickly after Marlins refuted it. I’d guess Marlins just want to make it seem like they aren’t listening.

    • Old Gator - Aug 2, 2013 at 2:03 PM

      I have a strong suspicion that the player’s association and league office have put their foot down about the Iron Giant. I suspect, further, that the Feesh have pushed the union about as far as they’re going to get away with pushing them for the foreseeable future.

      • Kevin S. - Aug 2, 2013 at 2:21 PM

        Put their foot down in what way? If the PA is pressuring Miami not to trade him, aren’t they seriously dicking over one of their members? Pretty sure Stanton has no desire to stay in Miami.

      • Old Gator - Aug 2, 2013 at 4:37 PM

        In the way that to unload an arbitration eligible player for a bunch of minor league prospects is a no-go. If there had been an offer to trade him for other players with service time and comparable eligibility or substantial salary, that would most likely have been alright. This issue here isn’t so much to protect the Iron Giant himself, but to protect the open market for salaries. If the Feesh are allowed to dump well paid players all the time – which is pretty much what they do – it negatively impacts the going market value of all players, since it opens, if you will, a salary sinkhole that removes twenty five inflated salaries from the market. It’s not that the union doesn’t want to help the Iron Giant. Everyone knows he’d rather be somewhere else. However, they won’t help him escape Macondo at the cost of putting downward pressure on incomes across the board. He’s still young and everyone also knows he’ll cash in bigtime within a few more years anyway.

      • eightyraw - Aug 2, 2013 at 5:18 PM

        First, the two big trades by the Marlins in the past year (Tigers and Blue Jays) both look like smart deals for the Marlins, just as they did at the time. And why would the union be mad at a team that signed Heath Bell to a crazy deal? Secondly, how in the world does trading away players depress salaries? Those well-paid players are still being well-paid. They are replacing marginal talent no matter the location. There is no league-wide economic ramifications from the Marlins low payroll.

      • Old Gator - Aug 2, 2013 at 6:14 PM

        You’re missing something. The Feesh heavily backloaded all those contracts and then dumped them all so quickly that their exposure was all at the low end of the sliding scale. All of those guys had comparable or slightly lower offers from other teams though the Feesh, with the backloading gimmick, were able to sign them because they offered longer term deals. In other words, it was all a bait-and-switch arrangement. The team quickly went back to being a low-budget payroll affair and clearly intend to stay that way. As long as they have few or no jobs to offer players at the high or even mid-range payroll level, yes, they do restrict the salary market.

      • eightyraw - Aug 2, 2013 at 7:05 PM

        I’m not missing anything. This is not how markets work. All contracts are backloaded because of the time-value of money. The Marlins offered better deals than other clubs, but are driving down player salaries? This makes no sense. When have all thirty teams participated in a bidding war? It only takes two teams to set the market. Look at the big signings that happened last offseason – were they lower than expected because the Marlins weren’t active participants? And your assumption that the Marlins never intend to sign a marquee FA is nothing more than an assumption. Also, the Marlins have aggressively promoted this season, prematurely starting clocks on players. How could the players union be upset with this team?

  2. detroitfanatic - Aug 2, 2013 at 2:01 PM

    Is it coincidence that Arod, Biogenesis, Ryan Braun, the Marlins front office, and hurricanes all come from Miami?

    • Old Gator - Aug 2, 2013 at 2:07 PM

      Ryan Braun comes from California. The Feesh front orifice comes from New York. A-roid was born in New York and grew up here. Bosch is from Coral Gables. So, if it is a coincidence, it is an extenuated one.

      • proudlycanadian - Aug 2, 2013 at 2:14 PM

        Didn’t Braun attend the University of Miami? I was under the impression that the Feesh front orifice came from outer space.

        One thing that has puzzled me, is how the baseball players involved found out about Biogenesis. I believe that there is a CBS report that claims that some of them were recruited by Arod.

      • detroitfanatic - Aug 2, 2013 at 2:40 PM

        If that’s true, they deserve to be suspended twice. Once for cheating, and once forbeing an idiot.

        Arod: “Hey. It’s me. I found this clinic on Craigslist that sells supplements. Hello? Hello? Can you hear me now?”

      • Old Gator - Aug 2, 2013 at 4:39 PM

        Braun graduated from UM in 2005. I remember him well.

  3. buffal0sportsfan - Aug 2, 2013 at 2:08 PM

    What’s wrong with the Marlin’s front office? They gave you Miguel Cabrera for basically nothing.

    • detroitfanatic - Aug 2, 2013 at 2:13 PM

      We had to take someone named Dontrell too.

      • buffal0sportsfan - Aug 2, 2013 at 2:53 PM

        Holy cow when’s the last time I heard the name Dontrell Willis

      • Bryz - Aug 2, 2013 at 3:42 PM

        An awful long time considering both of you forgot the ‘e’ at the end of his name.

      • koufaxmitzvah - Aug 2, 2013 at 3:45 PM

        It is a silent E. Kind of hard to hear those.

      • Old Gator - Aug 2, 2013 at 4:38 PM

        Like in “anole.”

  4. migoli - Aug 2, 2013 at 2:08 PM

    My fantasy team sure would have looked nice with my OF being Stanton,McCutchen, Marte!

  5. jrbdmb - Aug 2, 2013 at 2:20 PM

    Once Stanton gets his first arbitration raise this winter, the Marlins will start listening to offers. If they are feeling really generous they will pay him real money for one year before dumping him (like they did with Cabrera).

  6. Stiller43 - Aug 2, 2013 at 2:22 PM

    One commenter said immediately yesterday that your guy’s report was innacurate (citing sources)…not surprising news.

    • eightyraw - Aug 2, 2013 at 4:15 PM

      Thanks for noticing. MLB Trade Rumors immediately updated their report based on the tweet above (notice the time-stamp). It took this site 30 hours.

  7. chiadam - Aug 2, 2013 at 2:40 PM

    Better keep him around to keep driving attendance.

  8. takemytalentstosoutheuclid - Aug 2, 2013 at 3:00 PM

    You fargin sneaky bastage. I’m gonna take your dwork. I’m gonna nail it to the wall. I’m gonna crush your boils in a meat grinder. I’m gonna cut off your arms. I’m gonna shove ‘em up your icehole. Dirty son-a-ma-batches.

    • jaturso - Aug 2, 2013 at 3:41 PM

      What a mouth on that guy!

      • ltzep75 - Aug 3, 2013 at 12:06 AM

        This just in: takemytalenstosoutheuclid deported to Sweden. Claims he’s not from there.

      • drone501 - Aug 3, 2013 at 10:12 AM

        who is that deeckhead?

  9. rcali - Aug 2, 2013 at 3:25 PM

    Stanton makes way too little for the Marlins to trade away. 100% he’d be gone if he had been playing under a $10 mill+ contract.

  10. notoriousbri - Aug 2, 2013 at 4:41 PM

    love that movie.. nice reference Craig.. my mother floated false trade rumors once…. ONCE!

  11. buccos2013 - Aug 2, 2013 at 11:33 PM

    Glad it’s not true. Any team would be lucky to have the artist formerly known as Mike, but giving away the whole farm for 3 years of him isn’t how a small market team stays competitive for years to come. I’d rather supplement our homegrown boys with a few good FA every year. It’s worked so far this year and should be even better as we get more of the top prospects up. It’ll be interesting to see where he lands though – I don’t think it’ll be the usual suspects who offer up the most for him. I’m thinking a Seattle or Philadelphia might be more willing to part with what’s it take, rather than a Boston or New York. Whether they have enough in the system to get him is debatable, but I could see a package around Walker possibly working.

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