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The Marlins new stadium now drawing like the old one

Aug 2, 2013, 11:25 AM EDT

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People won’t come to Marlins games as long as it’s in that awful, outdoor, hot, steamy, remote converted football stadium, they said. We need a new ballpark to put butts in the seats, they said. About that:

What has moving to Miami brought the Marlins? About 100 extra fans per game. That’s the current gap between this year’s attendance and the average gate count for the Marlins’ last season at Sun Life Stadium, the football field that owner Jeffrey Loria blamed for the team’s long-standing attendance and revenue woes.

I’m sure those fans are paying more money per person once you figure in parking and merch and concessions and things, but it’s pretty remarkable for a team to have lost the entire honeymoon effect of a new park so darn quickly.

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  1. curmudgeon47 - Aug 2, 2013 at 2:00 PM

    This is one of my greatest peeves. Here in Milwaukee, taxpayers are on the hook for a half billion $ for Miller Park. We were told the new ballpark was needed in order to bring in enough revenue for the Brewers to field a competetive team. That was years ago and we still have a second division team with below .500 record. People are always crabbing about welfare going to the lazy and shiftless. How about corporate welfare where taxpayers subsidize the multi-million $ salaries of ballplayers who can’t even hit above .250? What a player makes is between him and team owners. But when I, as a taxpayer, am forced to subsidize team operations because they can’t run a profitable business, there’s something very wrong with the priorities of this country.

    • lifer124 - Aug 2, 2013 at 5:24 PM

      What you are leaving out is the economic impact the stadium has had. The team doesn’t own the stadium, they lease it from the city. We aren’t subsidizing players’ salaries. There have been numerous studies done that show the stadium has brought plenty more than it’s cost to the city in revenue for businesses and sales taxes. If you don’t want to read about it, just drive down Miller Park Way for a few miles south from the stadium and know that none of those businesses were there when County Stadium was still standing.

      • SpokaneGuy - Aug 3, 2013 at 12:56 AM

        That is factually untrue. Studies show that economic prosperity in a city shifts from one part of town to another, but it doesn’t bring in an influx of money. Key quote: “However, according to leading sports economists, stadiums and arenas rarely bring about the promised prosperity, and instead leave cities and states mired in debt that they can’t pay back before the franchise comes calling for more.”

      • SpokaneGuy - Aug 3, 2013 at 12:58 AM

        Sorry, link here:

      • SpokaneGuy - Aug 3, 2013 at 12:59 AM

        Okay, no more hyperlinking for me:

  2. ridingwithnohandlebars - Aug 2, 2013 at 2:22 PM

    If you build it, they will come.

    • cackalackyank - Aug 2, 2013 at 7:36 PM

      If you field a crappy team in the building they will not.

  3. bh0673 - Aug 2, 2013 at 3:11 PM

    Wait as I missing something here? Jeff Loria owns the Expos, they weren’t drawing people to the games, If I remember right they were in the 7 to 10.000 range and didn’t even have a TV contract so Bud pulls strings gets John Henry to buy the Red Sox, and lets Loria steal the Marlins. Then he continues to mishandle the team and they weren’t drawing people to the games because of the stadium. They build a new stadium and Loria again mishandles things and they can’t draw people to the games at the new stadium. I have to ask here what is the common denominator here. Two separate teams run into the ground by one owner three times. When does Bud wake up and tell Loria three strikes you’re out. Getting rid of him would be inthe best interest of baseball.

    • tomtravis76 - Aug 2, 2013 at 5:05 PM

      There should be an ownership review board, if owners aren’t meeting certain marks built into agreed upon ownership of a team, mlb should have the right to force an ownership change…in the best interest of the game, of course.

      • Old Gator - Aug 2, 2013 at 5:21 PM

        Simpler than that. Institute a premiership system like the one under which British soccer is run. You suck, you drop into the minor leagues until you improve.

      • tomtravis76 - Aug 2, 2013 at 5:55 PM

        While most fans would agree that would be a great way to handle all leagues. could you imagine some billionaire running say the Yankees or red Sox into the ground by playing in the minors? the murder rate would sky rocket.

        I just wish that ownership could be held accountable the way players and fans are told to respect the game.

        I lived in Dade and broward for almost ten years, my occupation gave me access to tickets whenever I wanted for Marlins games. it was an after thought, it was always about what team was in town or pitcher , if you went. but was always nice to give tickets away to clients. Nobody pays for Marlins tickets.

      • cackalackyank - Aug 2, 2013 at 7:38 PM

        “in the best interest of the game”
        Where have I heard that phrase before…..

  4. footballer4ever - Aug 2, 2013 at 3:20 PM

    Marlins Who!?

    • cackalackyank - Aug 2, 2013 at 7:39 PM

      That’s the AAAA baseball team in Miami.

  5. rcali - Aug 2, 2013 at 3:27 PM

    Small attendance yet Loria is going to make a killing this year. How does that make you feel Miami?

    • Old Gator - Aug 2, 2013 at 4:58 PM

      We answered that question when we threw out the mayor and two complicit county and city councilpersons in the wake of the stadium deal, and then shot down the Dolfeens’ pathetic attempt to get us to underwrite the refurbishing of Joeprodolsharklife Stadium. We also sued to prevent the stadium deal but were defeated in court. And we’re going to feel worse over the next ten or fifteen years when the interest payments on the usurious construction bonds Macondo’s incompetent city manager and comptroller purchased on substandard markets come due. The deal stank of lies and corruption all around. I’ve always been a great believer in due process but photos of Scrooge McLoria, the Chihuahua and a bunch of local politicians always make me feel like re-reading The Ox Bow Incident.

  6. granadafan - Aug 2, 2013 at 4:38 PM

    It’s disgusting that taxpayers are forced to pay for the lavish work palaces of multibillionaires. If they’re so desperate to keep up with the Jones’ by constantly upgrading parks, then let them pay for it themselves. There is no other business in the world that makes taxpayers pay for their place of work.

  7. northstarsmitty - Aug 2, 2013 at 5:15 PM

    I wonder which park quickly stopped gaining attendance faster and was the worst attempt at a nice new ballpark for thier home team- Marlins or Rays? Either way, sounds like people in FL don’t have a clue or patience for baseball, sad really

  8. Old Gator - Aug 2, 2013 at 5:22 PM

    How in Buddha’s name was the Tropicana Dump an attempt at “a nice new stadium”???

  9. MyTeamsAllStink - Aug 3, 2013 at 9:42 AM

    look in the bright side,you can host tractor pulls swap meets and giant car sales there to make up for the revenue lost from this crappy team.

  10. mrznyc - Aug 3, 2013 at 10:12 AM

    The answer is reallly very simple. In the political arena; stop listening to this party or that party’s sloganeering and vote for the person who isn’t going to spend your money. There’s one in every race.

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