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CC Sabathia struggled again last night

Aug 3, 2013, 9:38 AM EDT

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Make that four straight losses for CC Sabathia. The veteran southpaw struggled once again last night, giving up five runs over 5 2/3 innings against the Padres.

Sabathia yielded a season-high 14 baserunners (11 hits and three walks), including a fourth-inning solo home run by Logan Forsythe. His 24 home runs allowed this season are a career-high.

Sabathia has allowed 27 runs (22 earned) over 19 2/3 innings over his last four starts, bringing his ERA to 4.78 for the season. While Yankees manager Joe Girardi expressed confidence that he’ll eventually get over the hump, Sabathia indicated to Wallace Matthews of ESPN New York that the struggles are taking its toll on him.

“Of course,” Sabathia said when asked whether he was now worried about his season. “Who wouldn’t be?”

Hiroki Kuroda has pitched brilliantly for the Yankees this season and Ivan Nova has been a pleasant surprise recently, but it’s hard to imagine the Yankees making a run if Sabathia can’t right himself soon.

  1. buffal0sportsfan - Aug 3, 2013 at 9:42 AM

    Said it here first CC will be on waivers by the end of the season

    • pisano - Aug 3, 2013 at 9:52 AM

      I hope you’re right, but they should get him out of the rotation, he just doesn’t give them a chance to win with what he’s bringing to the mound. If healthy I think they should bring up Vidal Nuno, a talented lefty, see what he has, I don’t think he’d be worse than CC.

      • buffal0sportsfan - Aug 3, 2013 at 9:59 AM

        They could sign Roger Clemens and he still wouldn’t be as bad as CC

      • deathmonkey41 - Aug 3, 2013 at 10:52 AM

        They could bring back Andy Hawkins and he still wouldn’t be as bad as CC.

      • cackalackyank - Aug 3, 2013 at 11:22 AM

        They could hold, a seance, recall the ghost of Lefty Grove, and it would be an upgrade.

      • anxovies - Aug 3, 2013 at 3:18 PM

        But no matter what happens, just say no to Javier Vasquez.

      • nbjays - Aug 3, 2013 at 8:00 PM

        Throwing Joba out there every fifth day, however, would NOT be an upgrade over CC.

    • dondada10 - Aug 3, 2013 at 9:57 AM

      Essentially all players that are finished the arbitration process are placed on waivers at this time of year. It’s not really an indicator of how shitty C. C. has been.

      • cackalackyank - Aug 3, 2013 at 10:47 AM

        exactly…and right now who would be claiming him and his contract? Unless of course they have traveled back in time and know for a fact that his arm is not shot.

    • leeeroooyjeeenkiiins - Aug 3, 2013 at 3:06 PM

      Yankees fans, ladies and gentlemen.

  2. proudlycanadian - Aug 3, 2013 at 9:48 AM

    Doom! Another albatross contract.

    • nbjays - Aug 3, 2013 at 10:10 AM

      Shhh, PC. You’ll hurt dirtyharry’s feelings.

      • dirtyharry1971 - Aug 3, 2013 at 11:41 AM

        hurt my feelings? Hardly, CC is gonna be fine next year as he will be 1 year past his surgery he had this past off season. You wanna talk hurt feelings? You two clowns have been exposed to the greatest Flop IN MLB HISTORY!! How many people said the jays were gonna win something? All the money and trades AA made and (giggles) your team got worse!! HAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHHA hey want a crying towel? I got one for ya and boy do you need it!! HAHAHAHAHA

      • proudlycanadian - Aug 3, 2013 at 11:50 AM

        I think that another flock of Canada Geese just let it rip over Harry’s head.

      • djpostl - Aug 3, 2013 at 12:08 PM

        I especially love how they traded away a nice chunk of their farm system for Dickey (bust), Johnson (flop), Buehrle (done) and Reyes (as always..fragile). Best Jays move since the Wells deal. Or the B.J. Ryan deal. Or the…oh damn you get the picture.

  3. unclemosesgreen - Aug 3, 2013 at 9:56 AM

    Fortunately my schadenfreude was just run over by my Fingerspitzengefuhl – so I’ll just say it’s hard to see him like this, I like Cab Calloway Sabathia. Just DL him already fer fuck’s sake.

    • dondada10 - Aug 3, 2013 at 9:59 AM

      The day’s still young. Wouldn’t shock me at all to see the Yanks DL him today.

      • unclemosesgreen - Aug 3, 2013 at 10:00 AM

        Here’s hopin – even if it’s just a ‘mercy’ dl.

    • aceshigh11 - Aug 3, 2013 at 11:01 AM

      I don’t hate players just ‘cuz they’re Yankees.

      C.C. is a great pitcher and seems like a good guy…sucks to see a guy struggle like that (unless it’s again the Sox)

  4. jayscarpa - Aug 3, 2013 at 9:58 AM

    He’s getting zero movement on his fastball. I don’t know how you fix that.

    • blacksables - Aug 3, 2013 at 10:11 AM

      Changing his grip, or where he throws from the rubber.

      Sometimes moving one foot either way, which forces him to either throw across his body, or open up more, will make a big difference.

      Or moving his grip by a half-inch, and grabbing the seam differently.

      But players and coaches who have been successful in the past are usually reluctant to try new things, and you only get actual results in a game.

      • cackalackyank - Aug 3, 2013 at 11:01 AM

        Well that is a couple possible solutions for sure. Unfortunately I am not an optimist, and most of those things you mentioned presume a healthy arm, elbow, shoulder, knees…etc, etc etc.
        We already know he has had a knee procedure, and an elbow procedure the last two off seasons. So, it is entirely possible that there is a recurrence of one of those problems, or there is the possibilty that those issues while tended to, were not entirely successful and there is a new problem. Shoulder? One could speculate he just can’t get the motion in his arm to get the movement on the pitch, regardless of the grip, delivery point etc. In any case, this season is toast. Might as well send him for an MRI and to see Dr. Andrews. If it turns out he needs a major surgery…for crying out loud DO IT NOW. NOT IN JANUARY OR FEBRUARY.

      • blacksables - Aug 3, 2013 at 11:48 AM

        I’m just talking about mechanics. If there’s a physical problem, that’s different, and nothing should be changed until that is corrected.

    • pisano - Aug 3, 2013 at 10:32 AM

      Trade him if possible.

      • proudlycanadian - Aug 3, 2013 at 10:44 AM

        With that contract? The Yankees would have to absorb most of it. I agree with you about Nuno.

  5. drewzducks - Aug 3, 2013 at 10:05 AM

    They only owe him and Teixeira combined about $46M per year thru 2016. May want to get Magic Johnson on the phone.

    • cackalackyank - Aug 3, 2013 at 11:10 AM

      Magic is not quite that stupid…well at least not twice in a year and half. ( See Beckett, Josh)

      • pisano - Aug 3, 2013 at 11:55 AM

        cackalack….please don’t sell Magic short, maybe there’s a chance he’d take them both if he thought people wouldn’t call him stupid.

      • theskinsman - Aug 4, 2013 at 5:08 PM

        I bet all you Yanks fans wish Cashman and the Stein-satan brothers were as stupid as the 1st Place Dodgers.

    • turdfurgerson68 - Aug 3, 2013 at 1:33 PM

      Another brilliant signing by the Cashman…oh wait, I mean the Steinbrenner bros.

      We all know the Cashman has never made a bad signing ever.

      • Kevin S. - Aug 3, 2013 at 2:50 PM

        Cashman’s made plenty of bad signings. He’s also made plenty of good ones. Of course, you’re only going to focus on this season and ignore the fact that CC’s pretty significantly outperformed the first four years of his contract. If CC’s done as a good pitcher, this will wind up being a bad deal. If this is a one year blip and CC goes back to what he was doing in ’09-’12, it goes down as the best mega-contract for a pitcher ever. If CC settles in to somewhere between what he’s been this year and what he was the previous four (the most likely outcome), the contract is basically a fair deal on the whole. Of course, your hard on for Cashman prevents you from seeing any outcome but the second, but most sane people wouldn’t declare an eight-year contract bad after four awesome years and one shitty year.

  6. theskinsman - Aug 3, 2013 at 10:36 AM

    Gee, the guy CARRIES the yanks for years, and as soon as the insane amount of innings pitched starts taking a toll on him, it’s time for the DL?
    Pisano, the voice of reason has it right, skip a start or 3, give him a chance to get whatever isn’t right corrected.

    • unclemosesgreen - Aug 3, 2013 at 10:39 AM

      Hey – guess what 3 skipped starts adds up to? A DL stint!

      This message brought to you by the Office of Contradiction Resolution.

      • dondada10 - Aug 3, 2013 at 10:56 AM

        Dude, he doesn’t need a stint on the DL! Just sit him down for 15 days retroactive to yesterday.

        If only there was a way to replace him on the 25 man roster for this 15 days…

      • aceshigh11 - Aug 3, 2013 at 10:59 AM

        That’s some funny shit right there.

      • cackalackyank - Aug 3, 2013 at 11:06 AM

        Hmmm don. If I did not know better I would think that was typed in the sarcasm font.

  7. deathmonkey41 - Aug 3, 2013 at 11:00 AM

    When he opted out of his contract- they should have at least allowed him to shop around. He’s never been a big game pitcher for them- I still couldn’t believe that they upped him like that. The last few years, he would cough up leads like he was getting paid to do so. Since he choked in the WS back in 2009, he has shown that any faith in him to win an important game- especially against a good team- was unwarranted.

    • cackalackyank - Aug 3, 2013 at 11:12 AM

      Just another chapter in AL east keep away Saga.

  8. chiadam - Aug 3, 2013 at 11:20 AM

    Other than Cabrera and Fielder (so far, but wait), have any of these giant contracts worked out? Like, ever? Sabathia, Zito, Howard, Rodriguez, Texiera, Pujols, Hamilton, Hampton, Vernon Wells, Crawford, Soriano, Werth, and who knows how many I forgot. Just stop giving out these deals.

    • paperlions - Aug 3, 2013 at 2:13 PM

      Pujol’s first $100M contract worked out just fine for the Cardinals.

      Jeter’s first $189M contract work out fine.

      The first 3 years of Holliday’s contract were a good deal, if this year is about more than nagging injuries (which he has had), I wouldn’t be so optimistic about the last 3 years.

      Cliff Lee’s contract with the Phillies has been fine so far.

      Manny’s $160M deal with Boston worked out fine.

    • Kevin S. - Aug 3, 2013 at 2:26 PM

      A-Rod’s first deal worked out fantastically – it’s not his fault the rest of the roster construction was horrific. Jeter’s megacontract was a bit of an overpay, but I don’t think the Yankees want it back. Manny’s contract (bitterness at the end aside) was a win for the Red Sox. Helton’s contract wasn’t unreasonable. Beltran, Holliday, Lee are all fair. Pujols’ first megadeal was a steal and a half.

      Are their tons of busts? Sure, but there’s plenty of hits on nine figure deals that will keep teams handing them out.

  9. patsandsox - Aug 3, 2013 at 11:36 AM

    I hate to say it but the size of CC and all the innings pitched (he doesn’t appear to be in the greatest shape) could he be all done? How many pitchers as big as he is have done well after 30? I really do not know, just a thought.

    • Kevin Gillman - Aug 3, 2013 at 2:29 PM

      I don’t think he’s done, but his current weight and conditioning could play a big part of his troubles. I just think it’s time he fully dedicates himself into a workout routine this offseason. It’s amazing he has held up this long.

  10. eatitfanboy - Aug 3, 2013 at 12:22 PM

    They can’t keep running him out there. They just can’t. I don’t care what you’re paying him, I don’t care what he did in the past. Get Pineda up here and put CC on the DL for whatever made up injury you can think of. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. This is completely insane. His arm is dead. He can’t get anyone out. I can’t be the only person who sees this. Rant over.

  11. banger60 - Aug 3, 2013 at 1:08 PM

    He’s worn out and has no confidence, he needs to talk to the Yankees shrink, mentally whipped.

  12. Kevin Gillman - Aug 3, 2013 at 2:05 PM

    I think it’s amazing how durable CC has been in his career so far. A guy of his size has stayed relatively healthy most of his career, and now he is struggling. He had offseason surgery, and that could be. But the dude might have to go on a more strict diet this offseason, and he’ll be fine.

  13. leeeroooyjeeenkiiins - Aug 3, 2013 at 3:09 PM

    I’m convinced he has an injury that he’s trying to force his way through. I told my Yankee fan friends a few years ago that he wouldn’t be an ace anymore and I was certainly right, but I didn’t think he’d be anywhere NEAR this bad. His issues have also been fairly similar to Price’s earlier in the year(namely no fastball movement) and sure enough, he was trying to push through an injury.

  14. lazlosother - Aug 3, 2013 at 5:23 PM

    Fer chrissakes people, get a grip. He’s in his 30’s, has a ton of innings under his belt and is experiencing normal regression. His velocity has decreased and he can’t just challenge hitters over the plate the way he could before. CC’s movement isn’t down, but the difference between his fastball/slider/change-up is less than it was. CC is going to have to get better with his command. He got away with mistakes because he threw in the mid-90’s. He doesn’t anymore. CC will make an adjustment and he will still be good. It takes time.

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