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Ryne Sandberg on not getting the Cubs job in 2010: “There’s no bitterness”

Aug 5, 2013, 12:16 PM EDT

Ryne Sandberg AP

There was  a strong sense that Ryne Sandberg was stepped over for the Cubs managerial job when Lou Piniella stepped down in 2010 and Mike Quade was installed for his ill-fated run as the Chicago skipper. But if Sandberg was upset about it at the time, he’s over it now.  He sat down with Jim Salisbury of CSNPhilly.com and waxed reflective on life in Chicago, life in Philly and how that all went down a couple of years ago:

“Initially it looked like I might have been working toward that, managing for them and doing it up from Triple A and having success in the minor leagues, but I’ve been around baseball long enough to know there’s no guarantees in this game … “There’s no bitterness,” he said. “I have great memories of being a Cub and I’m happy building new ones with the Phillies.”

Sandberg, of course, left Chicago for the Phillies organization, spent two years managing their Triple-A team and is now the third base coach/heir apparent to Charlie Manual. It’s not often you see a Hall of Famer put in the kind of years to work his way up the coaching/managing ladder the way Sandberg has done, but his diplomacy here is probably evidence of a character that is well-suited to the often difficult demands of a big league manager.

  1. ditto65 - Aug 5, 2013 at 12:33 PM

    I’m confused; did Sandberg take PEDs?

    • sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Aug 5, 2013 at 12:36 PM

      There is no evidence that he did, but Bud is planning on suspending him anyway…just in case.

    • hackerjay - Aug 5, 2013 at 12:42 PM

      He hit 40 homers in 1990 when his previous high was 30…HE MUST HAVE BEEN ON ROIDS!!!! I mean, the question HAS to be asked, right?

      /sarcasm

  2. hep3 - Aug 5, 2013 at 12:34 PM

    It is too bad that when Mr. Sandberg gets the call in Philly, the cupboard will probably be bare.

    Sandberg has always been a class act.

    • biasedhomer - Aug 5, 2013 at 12:44 PM

      Well it depends on how much time the team would give Sandberg, or the whomever is the next manager, knowing that the team lacks talent.

  3. scotttheskeptic - Aug 5, 2013 at 12:37 PM

    Sandberg did a great job at Lehigh Valley, but from what I’ve seen this year, I think the Cubs made the right call back then. The Phillies are atrocious with the fundamentals, which it was stated he was going to address, and he has made some god-awful sends from third base.

    • biasedhomer - Aug 5, 2013 at 12:45 PM

      The Phillies have never been known as a “fundamentals” team under Maneul. He is not that kind of coach.

      • scotttheskeptic - Aug 5, 2013 at 12:54 PM

        With regards to Manuel, perhaps that explains the tensions that existed with Perlozzo, Mackanin, Lopes, et al.

        However, when Sandberg was hired to the Major League staff, I believe I read (and heard) that renewing the fundamentals was one of the objectives. sadly, he has failed.

        He is a class-act, but that alone does not qualify him to be a Major League manager.

    • cubanxsenators - Aug 5, 2013 at 12:47 PM

      Is Ivan DeJesus available?

      • scotttheskeptic - Aug 5, 2013 at 12:55 PM

        Only if Bowa is the “throw-in” this go round.

    • therealtrenches - Aug 5, 2013 at 3:02 PM

      The Phillies have been so neglectful of fundamentals for so long that it’s unfair to expect a manager at Triple A, or a 3rd base coach, to come in and fix it all in two or three years.

      And I need to vent about this: Mayberry: picked at second base AGAIN!!! argh.

      But you’re right about his 3rd base coaching. It’s horrendous, as if the soul of Larry Bowa, whose left arm was on a pinwheel from the moment the bat hit the ball, has jumped into his body.

  4. sleepyirv - Aug 5, 2013 at 12:45 PM

    Sandberg is better off not managing the “We’re Getting There” Cubs. And I’m sure the Brain Trust didn’t want the headache of having fire Sandberg is they needed to.

    • gostlcards5 - Aug 5, 2013 at 1:32 PM

      Totally agree, it was better for Ryno and for the Cubs. I do not think he wanted to slog away through 3-4 years of mediocre (at best) talent to start his major league career (not that the Cubs do not have some above-mediocre players, because they do). It saves him from having the deck stacked against him, and it saved the Cubs from the possibility of having to fire a beloved player for not getting the job done (when it clearly would not have been his fault).

      Also, as a Cardinals fan growing up in the 80’s, impossible to dislike this guy. Class…class…class, all the way. Loved watching Ryne/Ozzie turn DP’s in the ASG for years. I hope that he gets a job soon with a chance to be successful.

    • tfilarski - Aug 5, 2013 at 2:15 PM

      My whole thought has been that, as much as I like Sveum, he is just a stepping stone. He is the guy to get them there and then there will be someone else to finish the job.

  5. anderswa - Aug 5, 2013 at 12:50 PM

    Is Charlie Manual the opposite of Charlie Automatic?

  6. atepper001 - Aug 5, 2013 at 1:11 PM

    sleepy is right. i would be surprised if there wasn’t a wink wink agreement… we don’t want to hire you now to manage a god awful mess and lose some goodwill with the fans. let us rebuild and when the time is right, hopefully you come back. win win for everyone. they need a patsy for the rebuilding process and when the roster is ready to contend, have the best manager available for a young team that has had success.

  7. paperlions - Aug 5, 2013 at 3:03 PM

    I still have no idea how anyone could say Sandberg was “stepped over” for the job, when the guy hired had been managing since 1985…about 20 years longer than Sandberg, and he had been an MLB staff member for the Cubs for 4 years.

    There is probably a reason that he didn’t get that job, has rarely been interviewed for a managerial position, and even lost out on a job to a guy with zero experience as a coach or a manager. I don’t know what that reason is, but…there probably is one.

  8. auggie1955 - Aug 5, 2013 at 5:09 PM

    I still think Ryno got screwed not getting a chance to manage the Cubs. He followed the Cubs instructions – managed at all minor league levels and had success. Do you know how embarrasing it is to have Q-Ball (Quade) chosen over you?

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