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HBT Daily: The Nats and Braves hate each other and it’s delicious

Aug 7, 2013, 2:30 PM EST

Because baseball needs rivalries.  Too bad this is only a rhetorical rivalry at the moment. If it weren’t for the 14.5 games separating them we’d really have something!

Also: see if you can spot the historical/factual mistake I make here that makes me ashamed of myself but which we kept in here just to see if you’re sharp enough to catch it.

  1. pinkfloydprism - Aug 7, 2013 at 2:36 PM

    Um, everyone hates the Braves

    • bobulated - Aug 7, 2013 at 3:08 PM

      IMHO Braves aren’t even in the top 3 of most hated MLB teams.
      In no particular order;
      1. Yankees
      2. Red Sox
      3. Dodgers

      Then we could fight over the Cardinals, Braves, Phillies, or maybe Giants being rounding out the top 5.

      • spudchukar - Aug 7, 2013 at 5:11 PM

        So let me get this straight. If you are an historically good franchise, you are hated.

      • nbjays - Aug 7, 2013 at 5:15 PM

        Or if you are dirtyharry, your top 3 most hated teams are:
        1. Blue Jays
        2. Blue Jays
        3. Blue Jays

      • nbjays - Aug 7, 2013 at 5:16 PM

        Yep, that’s the Boston Red Sox…. historically good since 2004.

      • nothanksimdriving123 - Aug 7, 2013 at 5:59 PM

        No bob, I think we can go with just the short list: Yankees and Braves. Steinbrenner and the fake-Indian musical chop.

      • bobulated - Aug 7, 2013 at 9:51 PM

        Meh, I could have given you that 5-10 years ago when the Braves where still on TV all the time with TBS but not now with the World Wide Leader constantly screaming YANKEES! BOSOX! DODGERS! A-ROD! PUIG! *pant pant* BIG PAPI! A-ROD! A-ROD! A-ROD!

    • xmatt0926x - Aug 7, 2013 at 4:00 PM

      I don’t think the braves conjure up too much hate. They have always seemed pretty vanilla to me as far as bringing about any emotion. Everyone likes to jump on their rival teams when those rival teams are on top, but even then riva fans don’t seem to hate the Braves too much.

      • bobulated - Aug 7, 2013 at 10:10 PM

        Agree. Except for Rocker (who they got rid of) and the Chop, what have the Braves ever really done to be offensive? For the last 20+ years they’ve been one of the more professional organizations in pro sports.

    • pinkfloydprism - Aug 8, 2013 at 4:16 PM

      Seriously, I only posted this because Craig is a Braves fan.

  2. voteforno6 - Aug 7, 2013 at 2:37 PM

    Nobody likes Atlanta.

    • voteforno6 - Aug 7, 2013 at 2:38 PM

      The Braves have some fans, though.

  3. DelawarePhilliesFan - Aug 7, 2013 at 2:42 PM

    Watched twice – don’t see it. Has to be in that pitcher chart.

    Unless it was “Gasttitude”

  4. bravojawja - Aug 7, 2013 at 2:49 PM

    The top of your head looks like something out of a JJ Abrams movie:

  5. spudchukar - Aug 7, 2013 at 2:57 PM

    Washington Nationals vs. Nationals?

  6. buffal0sportsfan - Aug 7, 2013 at 3:15 PM

    AHA he forgot Sandy Koufax!!!! In 1963 he won both Cy Young and MVP.

  7. thebadguyswon - Aug 7, 2013 at 3:15 PM

    I actually find the Phillies more likable than the Braves, Nats and Marlins.

  8. ninjadmm - Aug 7, 2013 at 3:27 PM

    You put MLB MVP and they do AL MVP and NL MVP.

  9. imnotyourbuddyguy - Aug 7, 2013 at 3:29 PM

    It’s fitting, during the Braves run back in the day, the Expos were their chief rival.

    • DelawarePhilliesFan - Aug 7, 2013 at 4:09 PM

      Uhhh….in 10 full seasons in the NL East together with the Braves, the Expos were 4th of 5th 8 times

      • imnotyourbuddyguy - Aug 7, 2013 at 6:31 PM

        Who cares when they were in the East? From 1992-1996 they were two of the NL’s best teams and fought tooth and nail

      • imnotyourbuddyguy - Aug 7, 2013 at 6:33 PM

        Probably too many years ago for you to understand

      • DelawarePhilliesFan - Aug 7, 2013 at 6:58 PM

        “Probably too many years ago for you to understand”

        Yea….get to know people on this board before yu make a stupid comment.

        Moving along…so your theory is that in…say…’93, when the Braves were 9.5 behind the Giants in August, there chief rival was in fact the Expos. Who never made a serious run in the own division until September. Fascinating

      • imnotyourbuddyguy - Aug 7, 2013 at 7:09 PM

        My theory is me and most of my friends who were Expos fans considered the Braves the team to beat and were the most hated for us back then, so much so when all this broke out between the Nats and Braves we talked about those days.

        Had to be there
        But please Philly fan, keep going on telling the Expo fan that the Braves weren’t a rival back then. I must mis-remember 6-8 people always getting together to watch any Braves-Expos series intensely.

      • DelawarePhilliesFan - Aug 7, 2013 at 7:33 PM

        I can’t speak to what you perceived. I would say find one Braves fan who saw the Expos as a rival in those days or one person who covered baseball and saw those two as rivals, and then we will talk

      • imnotyourbuddyguy - Aug 7, 2013 at 11:20 PM

        LMAO as if I need to to talk to you, confirm it to you in any way shape or form.

        But here you go

        http://www.ajc.com/weblogs/mark-bradley/2013/jan/25/braves-nationals-beginning-beautiful-rivalry/

        “There was a time when the Atlanta Braves saw Tommy Lasorda and Dodger Blue as the One True Enemy. The feeling didn’t last long – the Braves blew a lead and still finished ahead of L.A. in 1982; the next year they blew a lead and stayed behind – and it arose again in the worst-to-first season of 1991. And, for as much as has happened since, the role of rival hasn’t been recast.
        The Dodgers faded after ’91, to be replaced by the Reds (’92), the Giants (’93) and – after the Braves moved from the West to the East – the Expos (’94) as principal challengers.”

        You’re a massive tool

      • DelawarePhilliesFan - Aug 8, 2013 at 7:47 AM

        Yes, after the Braves moved to the Est, And in 10 years, the Expos finishes 4th or 5th eight times

        Call me names all you like. There was no rivalry but in your head

      • imnotyourbuddyguy - Aug 8, 2013 at 1:18 PM

        Lil boy who wasn’t watching baseball at the time and wasn’t an Expo fan yammers his ignorance and sure does care an awful lot.

      • DelawarePhilliesFan - Aug 8, 2013 at 1:31 PM

        More name calling! No clue how old you are (see how this works? Guessing abut age may make you sound foolish), but if you watched the Expos in the early 90’s, one would guess you are advanced enough to know that name calling does not prove a point. Of course, clipping an article that names every single NL East team as a focal point for the Braves doesn’t prove your point either….but I digress

        But since you seem so peeved that – let me soothe your ego. I can not recall a more torrid rivalry then the Braves-Expos of….what years was it again? Yea, those years. All that wasted time people have had waxing about Sid Bream, beating out the 103 win Giants, David Justices clutch Homer – they got it all wrong! The Expos kept the Barves awake at night

      • imnotyourbuddyguy - Aug 8, 2013 at 3:32 PM

      • imnotyourbuddyguy - Aug 8, 2013 at 3:35 PM

        Oh ya, as for name calling, you’re a douche, so I call you a douche.
        I douche who thinks an Expos fans cares what a Philly fans thinks about…..anything, anything at all.

      • DelawarePhilliesFan - Aug 8, 2013 at 3:42 PM

        Breath deeply….you will survive….just breath…..

      • imnotyourbuddyguy - Aug 8, 2013 at 6:39 PM

        Douches always need the last word. A day later still typing to me trying to suggest Expos fans didn’t see the Braves as a rival.
        Typical Philly Dumbfuckery

      • DelawarePhilliesFan - Aug 8, 2013 at 7:50 PM

        “Douches always need the last word.’

        Hmmm…if I don’t reply, then by your logic, you just called yourself a douche….but if I do reply, then you will think I am a douche. Which you already do. Hmmmm…..what to do….what to do….

      • imnotyourbuddyguy - Aug 7, 2013 at 6:35 PM

        You seen back then, with two divisions, when the best of the West played the best of the East it became a rivalry, and I guarantee nearly every Expo fans remembers a rivalry with the Braves back then.

      • Kevin S. - Aug 7, 2013 at 6:52 PM

        How many times did the Expos win the NL East? Oh that’s right, just the one time they cancelled the playoffs.

      • DelawarePhilliesFan - Aug 7, 2013 at 6:59 PM

        And technically….not even then. Officially, there were no winners that year

      • halfthemoney - Aug 7, 2013 at 7:31 PM

        I’m with you…..as a Braves fan I can never remember considering the Expos a rival. Obviously the Expos thought otherwise.

      • imnotyourbuddyguy - Aug 7, 2013 at 11:23 PM

        Ya it’s easy for Brave fans to forget the Expos on pace to win 105 games and leave the Braves in 2nd place. Then the strike happens. Or how stacked the Expos team was becoming and only a fool didn’t see it becoming the Braves vs the Expos for a few years. But then everything happened.

        So glad those Braves teams wasted all those years.

      • DelawarePhilliesFan - Aug 8, 2013 at 7:47 AM

        ooooo, what rivaly for 3/4 of a season!

      • imnotyourbuddyguy - Aug 8, 2013 at 1:16 PM

  10. atlfan31833 - Aug 7, 2013 at 5:11 PM

    Usually a fan hates another team because that team usually beats their team. Why do you hate the Brave?

  11. whosennext - Aug 7, 2013 at 6:01 PM

    If your a Nats fan you must be sick having a 1 year wonder and getting it handed to you this year. Site your best player last year thinking this ride would last for a long time and now you find out what a bone headed organization you really have. Unless Strasburg had signs of his injury, there is no way he should sit. Could have limit his innings late in the season and playoffs if you felt it necessary. Go Braves

  12. sumerduckman - Aug 7, 2013 at 6:28 PM

    If the Nats don’t like the Braves, they should show how they really feel by beating them once or twice every couple of years.

  13. greymares - Aug 7, 2013 at 7:17 PM

    all i know is that if the Braves hit Harper again they will get yelled at by Rizzo (signed Cole Hamels)

  14. mannyicey - Aug 8, 2013 at 11:49 AM

    Wow. I’ve been a Braves fan since 1991. I’ve been born and am still a Cardinals fan (from St. Louis originally.) So I know rivalry.

    For instance, no one even cares about the Cubs because they are always bad. The Cards have been consistently good for a while now. But the Cards still hate the Cubs. That’s a rivalry! It doesn’t matter about wins and losses.

    That being said, I thought that the Braves had a rivalry with the Mets when I came here. I absolutely loved the whole thing about the Mets calling Chipper “Larry”. I loved how he named his kid “Shea.” That was great! But then, I realized that it wasn’t a Braves/Mets rivalry, but a Chipper/Mets rivalry. You know why? Because as soon as Chipper retired, the rivalry went away!

    Now they’re trying to drudge up this Braves/Nats rivalry. That’s not a rivalry, though. I think that the best candidate for a true rivalry would be the Marlins, but the Marlins would have to quit sucking. After that, there’s no team in the Southeast within 500 miles of Atlanta. That makes rivalries difficult.

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