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Jack Clark accuses Albert Pujols of taking PEDs

Aug 9, 2013, 10:00 AM EDT

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UPDATE: Albert Pujols’ trainer has denied Clark’s allegations to NBC Sports.com.

10:00 AM: Jack Clark, who once accused the Cardinals of being “quitters” and having “poopy in their pants” — yes, he actually said that — has a new accusation: Albert Pujols: PED user:

He was known as “Jack the Ripper” during his playing days because of his power hitting, and Jack Clark has come out swinging hard in his new sports-radio position. He has accused former Cardinals slugger Albert Pujols of using a performance enhancing drug.

Go read Dan Caesar’s column for the details, but the upshot is Clark saying “I know for a fact” that Pujols took PEDs because the trainer who used to work out with Pujols in Kansas City during the offseason “basically told me that’s what he did.”

The trainer, Chris Mihlfeld, was in the news several years ago when it was erroneously reported that he and Pujols appeared in an affidavit with information supplied by Jason Grimsley, who had been busted for PEDs. That turned out to not be the case.

As for these allegations? On the one hand they are, by definition, hearsay. And Clark’s later swipes at Justin Verlander and Shawn Green are pure b.s. which undermine him (he says Green had back acne and erroneously states that Verlander used to throw much harder than he does now). That said, hearsay gets a bad rap, but it isn’t nothing. And if we have learned anything in the past few years it’s that not all credible accusations of PED use are made by reputable and noble sources. Clark could be full of it. He also could be right.

Either way, Clark works in talk radio now and between this and his past comments doing broadcast work it is clear that he is one who likes to drop bombs and get attention.  I presume he will be getting a lot more now.

  1. tfilarski - Aug 9, 2013 at 10:02 AM

    While I do not believe Pujols is using or used PEDs, I do believe his birth certificate is a fraud and he is actually older than he claims.

    • oasiserfede - Aug 9, 2013 at 10:07 AM

      Ok. So what’s next for you? Going on a quest for fire?

      • trollingforjustice - Aug 9, 2013 at 10:33 AM

        sounds like Clark and Canseco have teamed up to write a book…stay tuned

    • stlouis1baseball - Aug 9, 2013 at 10:32 AM

      Yep…you nailed it Larski.
      Word on the street is…
      At the age of 15 when he moved here from the DR with his Father and Grandmother he was actually 24. But he was a very young looking 24.
      Fortunately, 3 years prior to this (he was 12 but really 21)…he swam to Puerto Rico to acquire a black market birth certificate. Those Puerto Ricans are good. They know their forgery.
      After acquiring said black market birth certificate they waited 3 full years until the “coast was clear.” They then moved to the US and settled in Missouri with other relatives and big Al started High School. The school thought nothing of it.
      After all…(you gotta’ remember)…he was a young looking 24.

      Please do me a favor Larski and don’t tell anyone. You must keep it between you and me.
      This is privileged information that I keep very close to the vest.

      • bfunk1978 - Aug 9, 2013 at 10:53 AM

        This was quite amusing. Srsly, +1 up thumb for you.

        But it would not surprise me in the least if he turned out to be 36 instead of 33.

      • stex52 - Aug 9, 2013 at 1:21 PM

        Well-played SLB.

      • badintent - Aug 10, 2013 at 1:55 AM

        why are the work.? just go to downtown LA, a few blocks of the main streets, you can get a fake ID in 20 minutes.I mean really.

    • asimonetti88 - Aug 9, 2013 at 11:07 AM

      Am I the only one who finds this line of thinking offensive? It seems to be solely based on the fact that Pujols immigrated from Latin America. He moved here as a teenage non-prospect, what would he have to gain by lying about his age as a normal American immigrant? Not to mention the fact that he is 33 years old, an age where most players tend to start declining?

      Where’s the accusations that Josh Hamilton is older than he says? After all, he is starting to decline at ONLY 32?

    • aceshigh11 - Aug 9, 2013 at 11:19 AM

      You must have Pujols confused with the Kenyan usurper himself, Barak Hussein (Soetero) Osama-Obama.

      • realeyezlife - Aug 9, 2013 at 11:24 AM

        you are an idiot..it’s actually comical

      • aceshigh11 - Aug 9, 2013 at 11:26 AM

        I hope you know I’m being sarcastic.

        It’s frightening that it’s almost impossible to be too over-the-top when parodying far-right lunacy.

      • realeyezlife - Aug 9, 2013 at 2:59 PM

        Once again,you prove my point…you are TRULY are an idiot…so keep being sarcastic

      • realeyezlife - Aug 9, 2013 at 3:00 PM

        don’t get wrong tho…you are a funny idioy tho…thanks for making my day

      • stlouis1baseball - Aug 9, 2013 at 11:44 AM

        Let me fix this Aces…

        Barak (Jorge Soros) Hussein (Soetero) Osama-Obama.

      • deep64blue - Aug 9, 2013 at 11:45 AM

        almost?

  2. bfunk1978 - Aug 9, 2013 at 10:07 AM

    That poopy pants thing got him shitcanned (ha!) from his job as a studio analyst for Fox Sports Midwest. He’s had it in for everything St. Louis since then.

    Then again, I guess he could be right. Every so often a blind squirrel finds a nut. But with all the testing nowadays, I happen to think Pujols is clean.

    • nbjays - Aug 9, 2013 at 12:23 PM

      I happen to also think Albert is clean, but keep in mind that “all the testing nowadays” didn’t catch A-Rod or anyone else associated with Biogenesis (except maybe Braun).

      • ochospantalones - Aug 9, 2013 at 2:10 PM

        Testing caught at least four players who were involved with Biogenesis: Bartolo Colon, Melky Cabrera, Yasmani Grandal, and Ryan Braun. Braun, of course, temporarily escaped punishment because the tester failed to follow protocol. So 17 players have been suspended in relation to Biogenesis, 4 of them were caught by testing. Whether that is a good or bad rate I suppose is in the eye of the beholder. To me it suggests that a fair number of players are still using PEDs and avoiding detection, but I make no claim to be able to identify which ones based on how they look or how many home runs they’ve hit recently.

      • nbjays - Aug 9, 2013 at 4:44 PM

        My point exactly.

        I guess I should have been more specific when I said “anyone else associated with Biogenesis”. I meant, and should have said, “any of the latest bunch to be suspended”, meaning, specifically, A-Rod and the 12 “new guys” (Valdespin, Bastardo, Escalona, Cruz, Peralta, Cabrera, Cervelli, Montero, Puello, De Los Santos, Martinez and Norberto).

  3. buffal0sportsfan - Aug 9, 2013 at 10:07 AM

    Yep that darn drug called age. So what about Hamilton? Does he just get a free pass after hitting 40 homers and then turning in to a huge bust?

  4. kidpresentable - Aug 9, 2013 at 10:12 AM

    See this sucks. For years, the Cardinals and their fans have held themselves as the arbiters of all proper baseball etiquette while ignoring their own team’s faux pas. “Hey, that guy admired his home run too much, let’s throw at him the next time he’s up and ignore how slow Pujols and Molina trot after their dingers!” So here they are, able to enjoy the Braun suspension while trying to wash their hands of McGwire’s and Pujols’ PED usage because while it happened when they were on the team, they didn’t get caught while on the team.

    • bfunk1978 - Aug 9, 2013 at 10:31 AM

      I think you’re ignoring Jack Clark’s history to make a comment this dumb.

      • kidpresentable - Aug 9, 2013 at 10:34 AM

        People said the same of Canseco and well…

      • bfunk1978 - Aug 9, 2013 at 10:43 AM

        There’s a difference between the stories, though. Clark is just repeating hearsay. Canseco was relaying first-hand accounts.

      • jtorrey13 - Aug 9, 2013 at 12:16 PM

        I think he’s ignoring the history of the lack of speed of the entire Molina family.

  5. scoutsaysweitersisabust - Aug 9, 2013 at 10:17 AM

    “new sports-radio position”

    Typical bullshit accusation by some loser trying to make a name for himself with wild accusations. For these people it’s all about doing whatever it takes to further their own career, and they are the true hypocrites. There once was a time when people would be fired for making these types of reckless, baseless claims, and I really hope Pujols sues the pants off this jack-off.

    • yahmule - Aug 9, 2013 at 10:27 AM

      Clark is one of those guys who didn’t really love talking to the press as a player. Funny when you see one of them switch over to the other side.

      I saw him hit a ball almost completely out of Dodger Stadium once. It hit the wall behind the left field bullpen.

      • bfunk1978 - Aug 9, 2013 at 10:45 AM

        Hmm, maybe he’s right about Pujols then, probably takes one to know one. ;)

      • yahmule - Aug 9, 2013 at 1:33 PM

        Many of the politicians promoting anti-gay legislation turn out to be self-loathing homosexuals, so this is possible.

  6. largebill - Aug 9, 2013 at 10:20 AM

    Clark obviously does not have an understanding of what “know for a fact” means. It does not mean heard a third hand rumor.

    Personally, I have no information on which to accuse Pujols so I will not. I also have no reason to declare with 100% certainty that he has never used any substance on the current banned list. So what I will do is enjoy the performances of players without caring whether they lift weights, run in swimming pool, do yoga, take vitamins or whatever else in off season

  7. pappageorgio - Aug 9, 2013 at 10:21 AM

    These lose accusations are completely out of hand and just stupid.

    I’m all for actual investigative journalism, like the stuff that uncovered Biogenisis. However, I’m completely worn out on every a**hat who’s trying to drum up interest in his podcast by saying: “My best friend’s sister’s boyfriend’s brother’s girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who’s going with the girl who saw BIG NAME PLAYER take a PED at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it’s pretty serious.”

    I mean have you ever heard of one of these media types accuse a minor leaguer or a smaller name player? Not really, because nobody would listen to their crappy broadcast or go to their awfulweb-sete based on that. “I know for a fact”……because some guy I’m barely acquainted with said “basically said he did”.

    Players don’t fight back enough because they don’t want their names mentioned repeatedly next to PEDs (because many people have short attention spans for actual facts) and even if they fought back the best they could ever hope for is a wimper of a “sorry” that would be buried on page 16 and not even metioned at a place like HBT.

    • trollingforjustice - Aug 9, 2013 at 10:38 AM

      this comment was too long for my attention span….

  8. jon3068 - Aug 9, 2013 at 10:23 AM

    Personally I think everyone used and plenty still do. But whatevs. They all pay for it with their health. No need to tar and feather ‘em.

  9. number42is1 - Aug 9, 2013 at 10:24 AM

    Craig – isn’t this considered Libel or Slander? (assuming it is not true)

    • kidpresentable - Aug 9, 2013 at 10:29 AM

      It would be slander if untrue (but it’s true, you know it), but since Pujols is a public figure, he would have to prove there was actual malice in Clark’s statement, and if Clark is merely stating what he knows or what he thinks he knows, that will be hard for Pujols to prove.

      • thinkfirstthenspeak - Aug 9, 2013 at 10:57 AM

        Doesn’t “actual malice” apply to public officials not public figures?

      • kidpresentable - Aug 9, 2013 at 11:01 AM

        @thinkfirstthenspeak Actual malice applies to anyone famous unless the person is made famous by the controversy. For example, the collector that Braun made famous could theoretically sue Braun and not have to prove actual malice because he’s only famous because Braun made him famous. Pujols is already famous, so he would need to prove actual malice

      • ochospantalones - Aug 9, 2013 at 2:18 PM

        I think it would help to clarify what “actual malice” means. It has a specific meaning in the context of libel law that is quite different from what a plain English reading would suggest. Actual malice is the knowledge that the accusations are false, or reckless disregard as to whether the accusations are false. It is very difficult to prove, which is why public figures rarely win libel suits in the U.S.

        I imagine kidpresentable already knows this, just thought it may be of interest to others.

  10. historiophiliac - Aug 9, 2013 at 10:24 AM

    Oh, Shesus, is it Friday?

  11. dickclydesdale - Aug 9, 2013 at 10:27 AM

    No doubt pujols used ped’s & is 5 yrs older at 38 then his alleged 33 yrs. but Clark was bankrupt not long ago & pujols is loaded with cash. Pujols will sue Clark. He will deny it like lance Armstrong but they are all guilty.

  12. professor30 - Aug 9, 2013 at 10:28 AM

    ” The last person who stole this much money from the Red Sox was Jack Clark”. What movie was that from? Anyone?

    • uueyell - Aug 9, 2013 at 10:50 AM

      The Town?

      • professor30 - Aug 9, 2013 at 11:05 AM

        Correct yelly!!! you win a prize from the top row.

  13. ctony1216 - Aug 9, 2013 at 10:34 AM

    Goes back to the point that MLB did not catch A-Rod, Cruz and Peralta cheating. A newspaper reporter did.

    MLB’s testing program is missing a lot of calls — just like their umpires — and it will be interesting to see what MLB and the union decide to do about it. But they need to do something. That’s obvious.

    • forsch31 - Aug 9, 2013 at 10:55 AM

      So, we’re at this place now…even if players have been randomly tested for a decade, even if guys like Braun have been caught by the testing, we now have to suspect every single player as dirty because some players didn’t get caught.

      Lovely. It should be noted that the Biogenesis thing broke because the drugs that three players who were caught–Colon, Cabrera, and Grandal–were traced back to the clinic.

      It could be that A-Rod, Cruz, and Peralta weren’t tested while they were using the PEDs from Biogenesis. That’s what random means–you don’t get tested all the time. 600 major and minor league players get tested three times a year. That’s not everybody.

      Until there’s actual evidence that Pujols or any player has used PEDs in their career, you’d have to excuse me for not pulling out the pitchforks on them.

      • ctony1216 - Aug 9, 2013 at 11:22 AM

        You said: “we now have to suspect every single player as dirty because some players didn’t get caught.”

        Actually, no, we don’t. We just have to acknowledge that MLB’s testing regimen is inadequate and that the league and the union should improve it.

        You can suspect, or not suspect, anyone you want. But the point is, the testing program is falling short, as A-Rod, Cruz, Peralta and others in the Biogenesis scandal make obvious, and to ignore that fact would be kind of like sticking your head in the sand. The good news is that the players seem to want to get rid of PEDs. Good for them. I just hope it’s not just steeper penalties, but better testing. NO ONE in the media is asking Cruz, Peralta and the others HOW they beat those tests. That’s the “pink elephant in the room.” Start there.

  14. raysfan1 - Aug 9, 2013 at 10:38 AM

    Lets see, Clark hit his career high 35 HRs with a career high OPS in 1987 at age 31 coming off a down season the year prior. Obviously he was “juicing;” that’s the way rumors and innuendos work, right?

    • bfunk1978 - Aug 9, 2013 at 10:58 AM

      PREACH

  15. voteforno6 - Aug 9, 2013 at 10:39 AM

    Pujols may or may not have used PEDs. He wouldn’t be the only player that’s managed to avoid getting caught. I think that we would be surprised if we ever discovered every player that has used them. I remember Thomas Boswell made a comment about seeing a hall of fame player drinking a “Canseco shake.” He didn’t name the player, but I think he was making the point that there’s a lot that we don’t know about what players do to remain competitive.

  16. blues1988 - Aug 9, 2013 at 10:50 AM

  17. anythingbutyanks - Aug 9, 2013 at 10:53 AM

    Oooookay. Look people. PEDs may or may not drastically alter the game as it plays out on the field. I don’t know. Other than being a bad example and essentially forcing others to do the same to keep up, the harm is minimal. The only reason this really matters is because we are all obsessed with statistics and comparing players, which is fun but also kinda pathetic for a team sport. Everything changed between the careers of the Babe and Barry Bonds- nutrition, training, the overall quality of players league-wide, ballparks, even the rules are different. Whether Barry was better or Ruth was is purely subjective, and how we weigh all of the differences between eras is an exercise in subjectivity. Personally, I believe PEDs greatly enhanced Barry’s HR total, and so I’m inclined for this and many other reasons to think Ruth was better. You may disagree, which is half the fun. Who was better last year, Miggy or Trout? Depends on which numbers you think are a better measure of a player’s value. These guys played at the exact same time, against the same teams, in the same ballparks, and still there is considerable disagreement. 99% of the reasons that steroids matter to us is because we foolishly hallow statistics as if nothing in the game has changed for 100 years. The HOF is a museum that tells the story of baseball’s great players and great moments. They aren’t ranked. It is just a place for all of the great and even some of the bad. As long as PEDs are against the rules, cheaters should be disciplined, but a better idea would be to just get rid of the rules that go beyond the rules of play altogether.

  18. steelcitymojo - Aug 9, 2013 at 10:54 AM

    It doesn’t matter. MLB’s fault for not catching guys when they could have. I really don’t care what he did to help his team win. They can’t take away World Series banners.

  19. tigersfandan - Aug 9, 2013 at 11:00 AM

    Is it possible? Yes. Is there any benefit to saying it? Probably not.

  20. onbucky96 - Aug 9, 2013 at 11:09 AM

    What? How dare you accuse one of Tony LaRussa’s pets of PEDs. Sincerely, Big Mac and Jose Canseco.

  21. hojo20 - Aug 9, 2013 at 11:23 AM

    28 years later & I still can’t believe Lasorda let Niedenfuer pitch to Clark in Game 6 of the NLCS.

  22. proudliberal85392 - Aug 9, 2013 at 11:34 AM

    Did he also tell Pujols to get off his lawn?

  23. thebadguyswon - Aug 9, 2013 at 11:36 AM

    Bed MLB has made. They’re all guilty according to some. You can’t generate mass hysteria about PEDs and not expect this kind of stuff. Oh well.

  24. spudchukar - Aug 9, 2013 at 11:40 AM

    Sadly Jack Clark has become a joke. Once he was a justified hero in St. Louis, leading his squad to post-season glory. Remember Tom Niedenfuher anyone? However, he has become a grumpy, chubby old man, who no longer garners the limelight he once enjoyed.

    His post playing life hasn’t been particularly rosy, and he is bitter about it. Trying to bring down Pujols and others is all he has left. It isn’t pretty, and most likely green eyed tainted. Not all former players ride off into the sunset gracefully, some miss the shrinking light, crave attention, and expose petty jealousies that would have been better off left alone.

  25. cohnjusack - Aug 9, 2013 at 11:54 AM

    A few things to keep in mind about Jack Clark before we start taking him too seriously:

    1. He was once fired for not showing up to work for a few days with no explanation. His job? Manager of the minor league Mid-Missouri Mavericks
    2. When invited to Whitey Herzog’s new home, Clark showed up with a newly purchased speedboat to take around Herzog’s (small) lake. Clark subsequently couldn’t get the boat out and just left it there (no wonder he went bankrupt!)
    3. Said to Tony Gwynn after hurling a can of soda against the wall “The reason why the Padres suck is because Gwynn is a selfish mother!”. Later that season, a Tony Gwynn doll was hung from the dugout on a noose.
    4. “This organization is a loser” he said of the Giants while he was playing for them.
    5. After the Giants wanted Clark to come back and play the last month of the season after knee surgery, Clark is quoted as saying “You want to try to hurt me for the rest of my life? Fuck you.Go die. I’ll never play for you again.”

    There is an almost infinite supply of stories of Jack Clark acting like a complete jackass. This is likely just more of the same.

    • Glenn - Aug 9, 2013 at 12:20 PM

      I love the fact that he had financial advisers but kept ridiculous spending hidden from them because he knew that they would say no. If I remember correctly, he had new marble put over old marble floors in a newly acquired mansion and started a car (drag?) racing team but got no sponsors. I love the boat story.

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