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Expanded replay being talked about for this year’s playoffs — which is rather odd

Aug 14, 2013, 2:17 PM EDT

Baseball’s bigwigs are meeting in Cooperstown. Here’s something on the table:

Great. And I do mean great:  I want to see the right calls made, and if this means the right calls are made this October I’m all for it.

Someone please tell me, though, why one would start something new in the playoffs rather than in spring games that don’t matter or at the beginning of the season so you can work out the bugs. Because remember: the complexity of any proposed system is what has long been cited as a reason for baseball dragging its feet on expanded replay.

If you can drop it in with a little over a month’s notice to the most important games of the season, why couldn’t this have been done long ago? If the system is so complex and problems are likely to be encountered, why are we dropping it in now?

  1. dondada10 - Aug 14, 2013 at 2:19 PM

    Expanded replay? Is attendance down, Bud?

    • theskinsman - Aug 15, 2013 at 7:33 AM

      Well, could be Bud will announce the NHL format, so the Yankees have a shot.

  2. kcroyal - Aug 14, 2013 at 2:19 PM

    Great. Someone please tell me, though, why one would start something new in the playoffs rather than in spring games that don’t matter or at the beginning of the season so you can work out the bugs…

    One wouldn’t..

    • clemente2 - Aug 14, 2013 at 2:21 PM

      Great. Someone please tell me, though, why one would start something new in the playoffs rather than in spring games that don’t matter or at the beginning of the season so you can work out the bugs…

      One wouldn’t..

  3. multiplemiggs - Aug 14, 2013 at 2:22 PM

    I’ll tell you why. Because it’s Selig’s last year as commisioner thats why. Ever thought of that? This guys so full of himself he needs to leave this legacy behind that he was baseballs shining hero and he saved the game in more ways than one. Thats how big his ego is. Thats why.

    • kevinbnyc - Aug 14, 2013 at 4:45 PM

      Please be right.

  4. gdobs227 - Aug 14, 2013 at 2:24 PM

    “Baseball must be a great game to survive the fools who run it.” – Bill Terry

  5. Bill Parker - Aug 14, 2013 at 2:29 PM

    I wonder if they’ll do what they did last time. When they started the review of home runs, they implemented it in late August 2008 to make sure the kinks would be ironed out before the playoffs: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3554357

  6. triaxfusion - Aug 14, 2013 at 2:34 PM

    I’m on the other side of this. I do not want instant replay, it’s making games so hard to watch. Anyone watch football lately? It’s a replay every 2 minutes and they still get it wrong more than right.

    • Kevin S. - Aug 14, 2013 at 2:39 PM

      Don’t use football’s system.

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Aug 14, 2013 at 3:34 PM

        Any chance did you catch last night’s Yanks/Angels game? Yanks appealed that an Angel left third early on a flyball to CF, umps called him out. Scoscia comes out to argue for like 5 min, somehow doesn’t get tossed. As the Yanks start batting around, Scoscia keeps pulling relievers, but intentionally doesn’t signal who wants to bring in until the home plate ump comes to break up the meeting. It easily adds 1-2m of gametime, and he does this at least 3 times.

        Ken Singleton, Paul O’Neil and Michael Kay are laughing about it each time because it’s so apparent what Scoscia is doing.

        Instant Replay would have taken 30 sec to see the runner didn’t leave early, but we got about 10m of extra game time without it.

      • Kevin S. - Aug 14, 2013 at 7:06 PM

        I was at a bar and saw the double play, but I didn’t realize that’s what Scioscia was doing the next inning.

    • alang3131982 - Aug 14, 2013 at 2:40 PM

      why use football’s system? I’d rather watch replay then managers argue about a call for 5 minutes — a call which we at home now is right or wrong within 20 seconds…

    • cur68 - Aug 14, 2013 at 3:33 PM

      In every single ball game I’ve watched on TV the replay is available within seconds on the cable feed. We at home have a far better idea how accurate the call is LONG before anyone on the field does. Its literally a no-brainer that an umpire at home/in the booth/in a hotel with a cellphone could be the replay ump while watching the cable feed. He’d get ANY disputed call that was CLEARY wrong corrected and it wouldn’t involve making a game out of call accuracy either.

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Aug 14, 2013 at 6:08 PM

        I think it took the interwebs about 2m to create a .gif of Jim Joyce missing the call at first for Galarraga’s “perfect” game.

      • cur68 - Aug 14, 2013 at 7:08 PM

        COPO what stuns me is how easy this would be to do and how difficult MLB is making it out to be. Its literally an Official Fan With A Cellphone. Another phone with the crew chief and an earpiece. That’s it. WTF is there to study? WTF is there to “get right”?
        Skillsz involved:
        -working knowledge of a cellphone
        -ability to watch a baseball game
        -passing knowledge of the rulez (Hey, Angel Hernandez gets by with that)

        Toolz:
        -cell phone
        -cable feed
        -the phone number to the crew chief

        If they tried it twice they’d have it figured out. Shit, they could even do it by text message:

        “Angel; WTF? u r wrong, brah. smh” Just copy and past that one: its good for multiple uses/game.

      • historiophiliac - Aug 14, 2013 at 7:41 PM

        Because the new bullpen cell phones are working fabulously.

    • moogro - Aug 15, 2013 at 2:00 AM

      Comments like this give me that sinking feeling…

      Get down there and bail with your hands!

      Wide eyed.

  7. prospero63 - Aug 14, 2013 at 2:39 PM

    Well, the conspiracy theory would be to say by rushing it in for the most important games, when (if) it fails they can say “see, it doesn’t work” ignoring the fact that they in essence set it up to fail…

    • dan1111 - Aug 14, 2013 at 3:28 PM

      But why? They can do whatever they want, so if they don’t want it, they never have to put it in.

  8. scoutsaysweitersisabust - Aug 14, 2013 at 2:42 PM

    Maybe there’s a big sale on 27 inch SD televisions going on at the local Frys.

  9. astrosfan75956 - Aug 14, 2013 at 2:48 PM

    MLB is terrible when it comes to timing.

  10. stoutfiles - Aug 14, 2013 at 2:51 PM

    They’re putting this in because a bad call during the playoffs is all anyone ever talks about.

  11. Senor Cardgage - Aug 14, 2013 at 2:55 PM

    The original replay system was implemented on August 28 of 2008, well into the season. What’s the big deal here?

  12. sportsfan18 - Aug 14, 2013 at 2:58 PM

    Why is Bud and baseball only going hard after PED users now?

    Same thing. They’ve dragged their feet on this for so long, they’ve made themselves look foolish.

    • vanmorrissey - Aug 14, 2013 at 3:35 PM

      It’s called a players union, that’s why. You can’t get past the CBA if players don’t approve, simple. Talk about baseball all you want, let’s hear you gripe about football, basketball, or hockey, what testing do they have? I’m waiting.

      • sportsfan18 - Aug 14, 2013 at 4:02 PM

        I agree with you about other sports. Bud considered reaching out and using the best interest of baseball clause. They are now suspending players who haven’t failed a drug test. They are now suspending players for more games than the CBSA/JDA call for.

        My point is that Bud and baseball sat back for years and years while they knew PED’s were a part of the game. They didn’t do anything about them for a long time and now they step up to the plate big time.

        There have been many reports and many talking heads stating that Bud is doing this now to try and change his image since he’s near the end of his reign…

        He could have done what he is doing now, last yr or the yr before with respect to PED’s, but he didn’t.

        They could have implemented more instant replay last yr or the yr before too and some of the reasons they said they couldn’t are now at odds with them implementing it now for this post season (if they indeed do it for this yrs post season).

        The NFL has gotten off too easy for far too long. Players are suspended for 4 games and they come back. They are not vilified by the press or the fans.

        I would like to see all pro sports have similar drug testing but well many of our 50 states have much different laws for similar crimes so there isn’t consistency anywhere actually.

      • chunkala - Aug 14, 2013 at 5:23 PM

        Absolutely right about the strength of the MLB union but don’t forget that parties’ cannot collectively bargain illegal activity (use of PEDs, murder, etc.), which is essentially what they are doing.

  13. jcmeyer10 - Aug 14, 2013 at 3:04 PM

    For me it all depends on how seamless it is. If they do it like the NHL count me in. If it’s like the NFL, Selig will have to worry about game length issues.

  14. vanmorrissey - Aug 14, 2013 at 3:33 PM

    Definitely agree on this one with Craig. MLB will take your money to stream any game in great quality to your home TV, laptop, tablet, phone, and they can’t get replay technology down right? Pile of BS.

  15. crackersnap - Aug 14, 2013 at 3:37 PM

    As we have seen with MLB to date, claiming to be “implementing a replay system” remains merely lip service that they will hide behind, rather smugly.

    Implementing a replay system that can quickly and accurately inform the umpiring crew as to what actually occurred is a whole ‘nother kettle of fish. How many cameras? Are they even HD? Where is the review monitor? What quality? What is the frame rate of the playback? How easy it is to operate the playback? How easy is it to switch camera angles? How tech savvy are the operators? Is there any transparency to the process?

    Sending some arrogant knucklehead down into a broom closet with his mask in one hand so that he can toggle a couple of buttons while squinting into some kitchen under-cabinet leftover monitor does not count.

  16. randygnyc - Aug 14, 2013 at 3:56 PM

    Makes sense that they’d start in the spring, but at this point, I don’t care if they implement it during the 7th inning stretch during game 7 of the WS. As long as they stick with it and fine tune it going forward.

  17. mp1113 - Aug 14, 2013 at 7:06 PM

    Use the NHL review system style. Quick and effective.

  18. brianjoates - Aug 14, 2013 at 9:23 PM

    The little league world series uses a better replay system than mlb. It’s about getting the correct call.

  19. moogro - Aug 15, 2013 at 2:09 AM

    Capten: “Wait, why is that team using humans to call the balls and strikes?”

    Morgin: “Sorry, sir. The time machine was set back too far. Let me slap on a few years.”

    Capten: “Wow. Let’s watch this for a while…
    You know, this is kind of funny…It’s like nobody seems to care. They seem distracted. It’s like everybody is looking around, each person watching something different. I can’t tell what it is.”

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