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Charlie Manuel is out as Phillies manager, Ryne Sandberg named interim replacement

Aug 16, 2013, 1:44 PM EDT

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The Phillies have a press conference scheduled for 2:30 p.m. today and have refused to indicate what it’s about, but Jim Salisbury of knows: Charlie Manuel is out as manager.

Manuel recently won his 1,000th career game and it’s unclear if he’s being forced out or leaving on his own at age 69. He has a .551 winning percentage since taking over as the Phillies’ manager in 2005, finishing .500 or better in each season before this year and taking the team to back-to-back World Series in 2008 and 2009.

It’d be a shame if Manuel is taking the fall for the Phillies’ decline, because he’s a well-liked and extremely successful manager who certainly can’t be blamed for most of the front office decision-making that led to the deterioration of the roster.

UPDATE: Salisbury reports that third base coach Ryne Sandberg is expected to replace Manuel as manager for the remainder of this season and possibly on a full-time basis.

UPDATE: During the press conference Manuel made it clear that he was fired by general manager Ruben Amaro Jr., saying: “I did not resign. I did not quit.”

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  1. anthonyverna - Aug 16, 2013 at 2:32 PM

    Thank you, Charlie, for the World Series and for taking the team the next year to the championship’s proverbial doorstep.

    Paying for sins of the general manager.

    • nbjays - Aug 16, 2013 at 4:04 PM

      It seems like that is what managers do — especially managers of teams with bad GMs.

  2. elmerbrownelmerbrown - Aug 16, 2013 at 2:33 PM

    You can say what you want about Chuck positive or negative but one thing you can say is,,, he’s a man !

  3. dcfan999 - Aug 16, 2013 at 2:35 PM

    Maybe the nats will get Charlie Manuel

  4. Marty McKee - Aug 16, 2013 at 2:35 PM

    A guy too stupid to know that Joey Votto is an All-Star-caliber player has no business managing in the major leagues anyway.

    • dannymac17 - Aug 16, 2013 at 3:31 PM

      How are the Reds and Joey Votto doing btw? Oh.

      • imnotyourbuddyguy - Aug 16, 2013 at 4:04 PM

        In a playoff spot with a 6 game lead on the next team, How’s Philly doing?

      • nbjays - Aug 16, 2013 at 4:05 PM

        16 more wins than the Phillies, if you are counting.

    • biasedhomer - Aug 16, 2013 at 4:21 PM

      He was also stupid enough to win the World Series.

  5. riflemanlax - Aug 16, 2013 at 2:36 PM

    Thanks for the memories Charlie, and for taking us to the World Series.

  6. toodrunktotastethischicken - Aug 16, 2013 at 2:36 PM

  7. weaselpuppy - Aug 16, 2013 at 2:39 PM

    They shot the wrong guy!

  8. sportsdrenched - Aug 16, 2013 at 2:46 PM

    Congrats to Charlie on his parole.

    • tfoz5150 - Aug 16, 2013 at 4:17 PM

      youre an idiot and so are the ppl who thumbed this up

  9. edelmanfanclub - Aug 16, 2013 at 2:48 PM

    Disrespectful to say the least. Obviously with a poor season changes have to be made, but this is mostly RA’s fault (so he deserves to be canned as well). You should honor someone with a resume like Charlie Manuel, let him finish the season. I mean hell, Boston let BV finish last year when he deserved to be out with A Gon, Crawford and Beckett.

    • icanspeel - Aug 16, 2013 at 3:01 PM

      I see your point, but main difference is Phillies have potential in house replacement, so what better time to test him out? Red Sox didn’t have anyone in mind yet

  10. xmatt0926x - Aug 16, 2013 at 2:56 PM

    Wow. Didn’t see this coming. How low rent is Ruben Amaro? Don’t get me wrong. Charlie was obviously gone at the end of the season, but to fire him with 40 or so games left? The manager with the most wins in team history and one of two to win a title and you can’t just wait until November and let him ride off into the sunset?

    Wow. Charlie isn’t a guy I’d want to manage most teams. He’s a guy who lets veterans do their thing, right or wrong, and he will drive you crazy with his strategic decisions. At the end of the day though this comes off as a classless move by an organization that has to see how bad a GM Amaro is. This guy still thinks it’s the 1980’s as far as analyzing players and trends.

    What a joke.

    • tfoz5150 - Aug 16, 2013 at 4:20 PM

      they knew it was coming. he just made 1000 wins. sandberg was there to take over anyway.

  11. blabidibla - Aug 16, 2013 at 3:03 PM

    Should have let him finish the season at least. Owed him that much.

  12. ochospantalones - Aug 16, 2013 at 3:26 PM

    What an embarrassment. Yet another reason to hate Ruben Amaro. This off-season they should have let both Charlie and Amaro go, but there was no reason at all to fire the guy mid-season. Does anyone really think this disaster is Charlie’s fault? Amaro constructed an old, crappy, overpaid roster.

    Charlie was never a very good tactical manager, but he knew how to keep a talented team happy and motivated. I’ll always have a lot of respect for the guy. Thanks Charlie.

  13. @Cereal_22 - Aug 16, 2013 at 3:26 PM

    I never thought this guy would last in Philly when I first heard him speak. Charlie did an admirable job

  14. leerosenthall - Aug 16, 2013 at 3:29 PM

    Charlie is a class act. I will genuinely miss him and all his folksy charm. One may have disagreed with some of his in-game decisions, but he always had a reason for every decision he made, and he never phoned it in, which is more than I can say for a lot of the players on his squad.

    As everybody who loves the game knows, baseball is a game of failure. Charlie’s record speaks for itself, the best manager in Phillies history.

  15. prrbrr - Aug 16, 2013 at 3:29 PM

    Charlie you were the best manager I have seen in Philly. Ruben should be fired right behind you for some of the most pathetic front office work around.

    • blacksables - Aug 16, 2013 at 4:02 PM

      Isn’t Ruben Amaro the same guy that built the World Series teams?

      • Francisco (FC) - Aug 16, 2013 at 5:34 PM

        Dear gracious me, of course not.

      • blacksables - Aug 16, 2013 at 9:10 PM

        Okay, just wondering. I’m not a Phillies fan, so I wasn’t sure.

      • Francisco (FC) - Aug 18, 2013 at 12:45 PM

        He inherited the 2008 championship team. It can be argued Ruben ensured the team reached the world series in 2009 by trading for Cliff Lee.

      • raysfan1 - Aug 16, 2013 at 8:54 PM

        Amaro became GM in 2009. He deserves credit for neither the 2008 WS winner nor the NL pennant winner.

      • blacksables - Aug 16, 2013 at 9:10 PM

        Okay, just wondering. I’m not a Phillies fan, so I wasn’t sure.

  16. psunick - Aug 16, 2013 at 3:40 PM

    That p.o.s. Howard Eskin is going to pound his pitiful chest over this.

  17. ditto65 - Aug 16, 2013 at 3:42 PM

    Charlie is not smart. His teams won in spite of him.

    Is he really only 69?

  18. natslady - Aug 16, 2013 at 4:00 PM

    The more I think about this, the madder I get, and I am (obviously) NOT a Phillies fan. You do not disrespect a good baseball person. Ain’t right.

    They were never expected (seriously expected) to be contenders with their roster, especially once Doc went down. Nothing to do with Charlie, and why fire him this late in the season? Makes no sense. It is petty and shameful and LOW CLASS. Nats were never going after Sandberg, that is NONSENSE. This does not change their season, no reason AT ALL to do this.

    • tfoz5150 - Aug 16, 2013 at 4:21 PM

      his time there was up. move on

  19. babyfarkmcgeezax - Aug 16, 2013 at 4:23 PM

    Amaro just can’t seem to do anything right, if he had any decency he would own up to the mediocre moves/non-moves he has made to put the Phils in this position instead of letting Charlie take the fall.

  20. davereckon - Aug 16, 2013 at 4:51 PM

    Wrong kid died.

    Reuben, you are a coward.

  21. darrkkomens - Aug 16, 2013 at 5:22 PM

    The Phillies organization is a disgrace. Charlie should have been able to retire a Phillie. If he wants to manage 4 more years it should have been allow.

    Charlie is a proven winner. Ruben isn’t. I don’t think people remember just how bad the Phillies were and how long they were bad. Charlie and Gillick took us to Two World Series. We won one and was a series of going back a third time. The most winning coach and the best era of Phillies base ball. Ruben isn’t proven and as soon as he took over the Phillies went down hill. Joe Torrey was allow to coach several eras of baseball with the Yankees and Charlie should have been allow to do the same. They should have fired Ruben brought in a better GM, rebuild the Phillies and let Charlie make them winners.. To cut him short in the middle of the season is disrespectful and for an unproven coach in Sandberg is even worse. We didn’t have the players, don’t have the GM and now got rid of the heart of the team. Charlie… Thanks Charlie Manuel for years of Great Phillie baseball.. You will be missed

  22. takemytalentstosoutheuclid - Aug 16, 2013 at 8:45 PM

    Already rumors that he’s coming back to Cleveland, where he spent 15 years, to be the “Don Zimmer” on Tito’s staff…. If that is the case, welcome back, Charlie! The Indians best seasons in my 43 years were when you were the hitting coach.

  23. raysfan1 - Aug 16, 2013 at 8:56 PM

    NESN nailed it…

  24. thesmedman - Aug 16, 2013 at 9:55 PM

    Manuel is like Buddy Ryan. Or Norv Turner. Great talent evaluator: great position coach. Terrible in game manager. How they let him w/o a bench coach this year is inexplicable. Granted, they let Davey Lopes go as a coach – a real mistake. And the GM is questionable, but then again, so are those “senior advisors” to the GM and to the President. There is a ton of culpability.

    To this day, i laugh about how the phillies, when they hired Manuel,ravedcaboutbhowchevdidvin mock press conferences. Really?

    Absent Gillick returning, the Phillies wont fire Amaro unless the outcry is so bad like with Ed Wade. I don’t see that yet. They have a pride thing with “family” and Amaro literally grew up in that organization.

    Not sure Sandberg’s the answer. They need a good bench coach and a good third base coach, and need to stick one hitting coach. Bring back Bowa either as a bench coach or third base coach. Then they have to rethink a few players.

    This reminds me a lot of Danny Ozark being fired. But Sandberg, even as a protege, ain’t no Dallas Green. It’s time to look outside the system. They were very high on Terry Pendleton. Looks like those braves are doing well…

  25. steelers88 - Aug 16, 2013 at 11:56 PM

    Even as a Pirates fan Charlie Manuel was one of my favorite managers. Never want to see a guy lose his job. Especially a great human being. Best wishes Charlie Manuel.

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