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“Today is my 60th birthday. Today is the last day of my life. Today, I committed suicide.”

Aug 19, 2013, 12:44 PM EDT


I didn’t know Martin Manley. I was vaguely aware of who he was. He contributed to a sports blog for the Kansas City Star for a few years. He maintained the Sports in Review blog, which I’d looked at a few times. There are a lot of people like that who have floated around the sabermetric universe over the past 20 or 30 years: acquaintances of acquaintances whose name rings a bell and who, if you Google a bit or jog your memory some you can place.

I don’t think I’ll forget him now. He killed himself on Thursday. It was his 60th birthday. And before doing it he wrote up an insanely-detailed website setting forth his reasons for it and his life story. The most notable thing about it: he was not sick. He was not poor or in trouble or, on the surface anyway, depressed or in distress of any kind. He simply decided that 60 years was enough and that he wanted to do it.

The website — which I have been reading for a couple of hours now — reads like someone working out a simple problem of logic. Instead of concluding something mundane, however, it concludes with Manley killing himself for reasons stated.

I know it has nothing to do with baseball, but Manley sounds like a lot of people who comment around here or who frequent Baseball Think Factory or who hang around on Twitter. Older than most web-based folks, but imbued with a certain perspective and politeness about them as a result.

I have no idea what to make of it, but it seems like more than anything else, Manley wanted his story to be shared, so I am sharing it. And I am simultaneously remembering that we don’t know a hell of a lot about anyone or about this world for that matter.

(thanks to Rob Neyer for the heads up)

  1. DonkeyStick - Aug 19, 2013 at 12:47 PM

    Good for him. He went out on his own and from what I’ve read has no regrets about it. His way of telling God, “you can’t fire me, I quit” Good for him.

    • dickclydesdale - Aug 19, 2013 at 4:42 PM

      Looks like this loser had financial issues with supporting the two ex-wives & did not want to live as a broke. Did not read all of it but he seemed like one boring guy that just wants attention for being a coward. Good riddance coward!

  2. echech88 - Aug 19, 2013 at 12:47 PM

    Happy Monday to you too?

  3. yahmule - Aug 19, 2013 at 12:54 PM

    When I was younger, I took the rather uncharitable position that suicide was the ultimate expression of selfishness because of the pain it causes for family and friends. Over the years, I’ve come to understand that its way more complicated than that and some people just really have a need to leave this world. I can’t begin to judge someone in that frame of mind anymore.

    • Jonny 5 - Aug 19, 2013 at 1:46 PM

      Ditto. And Ditto.

  4. number42is1 - Aug 19, 2013 at 12:57 PM

    when i click “home page” it takes me to the index, which is not very helpful to most. Since there is noone to complain to i call this a win in his book.

  5. historiophiliac - Aug 19, 2013 at 12:57 PM

    Thursday was my birthday too. I hate that the cake will need one less slice now.

    • Old Gator - Aug 19, 2013 at 1:13 PM

      I am minded of the story Yogi Berra tells about how he met his wife, Carmen. He went into a pizzeria in St. Louis where she was working as a waitress and she was so pretty he became nervous. He asked how many slices a large pizza had, and she said eight. He said, gee, that’s too much for me. Could you cut it into four slices?

      • historiophiliac - Aug 19, 2013 at 2:33 PM

        I can’t decide if the thumb harpy is so pathetic that s/he has to actually express his/her negativity about my sadness or if s/he is so petty that the need to hate me is stronger than his/her sense of decency.

      • Old Gator - Aug 19, 2013 at 4:10 PM

        Hard to say. Past a certain point infantile behavior doesn’t admit of chartable gradations anymore – its pathos just becomes so much ectoplasmic slime, like that stuff around the ellipsoids of gefilte fish in the jar. But really, thumbing down a Yogi story? That’s not even pathetic anymore. That’s coelenterate.

      • lanflfan - Aug 19, 2013 at 5:31 PM

        How can you thumb down a Yogi Berra story?

    • dondada10 - Aug 19, 2013 at 2:32 PM

      Happy belated

      • historiophiliac - Aug 19, 2013 at 2:36 PM


  6. Stiller43 - Aug 19, 2013 at 1:01 PM


    Has no regrets?………


    Hard to have regrets when youre dead…regrets are hindsight, if ya didnt know…

    • number42is1 - Aug 19, 2013 at 1:07 PM

    • DonkeyStick - Aug 19, 2013 at 1:16 PM

      and hindsight is 20/20 correct? “He simply decided that 60 years was enough and that he wanted to do it.” So if according to you “regrets are hindsight” then suicide was right in front of him, his own decision, and it was the correct thing to do, if ya didn’t know…

  7. Old Gator - Aug 19, 2013 at 1:08 PM

    Me, I plan to live the hell out of life until it gives me a damned good reason not to bother with it anymore.

    All that notwithstanding, this polemic of Manley’s reminds me of two other explanatory documents for suicide: the British actor George Sanders, who left a note saying he was killing himself because he was bored (and inspired one of the best of all of the old National Lampoon‘s articles, George Sanders’ List of the Most Boring Things in the World), and the arguments of White, one of the two characters in Cormac McCarthy’s play The Sunset Limited. You can view the TV staging of the latter, with Tommy Lee Jones and Samuel L. Jackson, at your discretion.

  8. drinkpeepee - Aug 19, 2013 at 1:08 PM

    This comes across kind of like hipsters who insist that having no TV makes them smarter or more enlightened than people who do. I mean, fine, you can decide to take your own life whenever you want. But for someone to decide to just punch out while there are afflicted people out there filling their bodies with poison in the desperate hope that they can extend their lives a few more weeks or months or years. There are kids born with horrible deficiencies who live their lives making the most of what they are capable of doing. This guy has absolutely nothing wrong with him, he is reasonably intelligent and lives, by his own admission, a satisfying life. But he decides to end things at age 60 because sometime between now and 40 years from now he may or may not be capable of making the decision for himself? Arrogant.

    • heyblueyoustink - Aug 19, 2013 at 1:21 PM

      It’s too murky to just kind of slam him. For instance, if he donated all of his organs, liquidated all his proceeds and out them towards some charitable means, while you, I, or anyone else might disapprove of suicide, then there is very little for anyone to really loathe him for.

      Maybe he believed in reincarnation, there are whole religions that would sanction such actions as long as you’re reasoning was sound in some way, shape or form. From what little I read, his reasoning seems fine. I’ll read more when I get home.

    • paperlions - Aug 19, 2013 at 2:29 PM

      Arrogant is not the word you were looking for.

      • drinkpeepee - Aug 19, 2013 at 2:47 PM

        It is. That’s why I used it in my post. You can feel free to copy the entire text and change that last word if you like.

      • paperlions - Aug 19, 2013 at 2:49 PM

        In what way is anything about this arrogant?

      • drinkpeepee - Aug 19, 2013 at 2:58 PM

        Having or revealing an exaggerated sense of one’s own importance or abilities.

        Buying the maximum lease on a website and chronicling your decision to end your own life despite being a still-healthy, contributing member of society on said website fit this definition quite well.

      • paperlions - Aug 19, 2013 at 3:03 PM

        No, it doesn’t. Did read anything he wrote, did you?

      • drinkpeepee - Aug 19, 2013 at 3:11 PM

        listen, devoting a 7-billion-word outline of your decision behind taking your own healthy life and publishing it to the internet is unarguably arrogant. don’t care how thoughtful or insightful it is. privately leaving it for the people it would actually impact is one thing, but making a spectacle of it is another. and no matter the message, no matter the length, taking your own healthy life while people struggle to prolong their lives stricken with illness and tragedy and disabilities is above all the most arrogant part. taking for granted your ability to just be a normal, living human. that’s arrogant. and yes, I did read some of it. it’s garbage.

      • paperlions - Aug 19, 2013 at 3:39 PM

        Ah yes, the arrogance of presumption and willful ignorance. Congratulations on inaccurately labeling something you won’t bother to become informed about because at first glance you disapprove.

      • drinkpeepee - Aug 19, 2013 at 3:48 PM

        The fact the site exists is, in and of itself, arrogant. Not sure why you’re on a crusade against my use of the word arrogant. My opinion of what happened here is that a guy ARROGANTLY wasted the most precious and important thing any human being ever possesses.

      • Old Gator - Aug 19, 2013 at 5:06 PM

        Aside from the fact that Paperlions is absolutely right that you’re using the word incorrectly, and also absolutely right that you sound like an arrogant schmuck yourself for passing judgment on a discourse you’ve admitted you won’t bother to read, if you had bothered to read it you would know that its author was not at all “still healthy,” was aware that he was succumbing to an early and pretty aggressive form of dementia at the very least, and had made a decision – for himself – that he didn’t want to slip into mental and physical decline. There’s nothing arrogant about that. Your condemnation of a man’s decision about his own sovereign life based on an act of delliberate and willful ignorance far batter fulfills the definition of “arrogance” than this man’s choice for himself.

      • bh192012 - Aug 19, 2013 at 8:04 PM

        No no no…. EVERY SINGLE COMMENTER here is arrogant… what with expecting every single person with a computer to read your comment and all….. nevermind if you have a blog, facebook or know how to write or perform circus tricks.

      • drinkpeepee - Aug 20, 2013 at 10:10 AM

        @Old Gator… There’s nothing arrogant about not wanting the natural process of human life to happen? He decided he didn’t want to be alive if he wasn’t able to be as functional at age 60 or beyond as he was at age 30? I suppose, since you are admittedly “Old,” you have a bit more relevant perspective on this than I do at age 31, but I wholeheartedly stand by my opinion that it is arrogant of anyone to decide that they will end their own life prematurely. The choice of ending one’s own life is accompanied by the idea that the person has either decided that life has nothing left to give them or they have nothing left to give to life, both of which are extremely flawed considering none of us knows what will happen 1 second from now, let alone in the next 30 years.

        Your insistence that I have used the word arrogant wrong ism ironically, arrogant, by the way. Emphasis on “an exaggerated sense of one’s own importance,” this individual has decided his life and death merits an entire website to explain himself. None of us should know or care about this, but he has made it so that we have. Didn’t know who he was before, and now I do. And since you aren’t the editor-in-chief of the comment section on this blog, you also have an exaggerated sense of your own importance.

  9. uwsptke - Aug 19, 2013 at 1:10 PM

    I read several pieces of his website when I found out about it over the weekend. Very detailed, very thought-out. Above all else, he seemed to want to make sure his actual death would cause as little trouble for others as possible. He reiterates that he would never do this if he had children, a spouse, or living parents.

    He even references a Star Trek TNG episode where an alien race would always return home to perform a ritualistic suicide at age 60. The discussion boiled down to this: Is it more selfish to take your own life and go out on your own terms, or advance to an age where you no longer provide any economic benefit and begin to be a drain on resources that could be better spent elsewhere?

    • gbrim - Aug 19, 2013 at 2:13 PM

      He did leave behind people he was close to, including two stepdaughters whose lives continued to be closely linked to his (see his photos). There will be people in great pain because of his decision, whether he wanted to recognize it or not.

      • Old Gator - Aug 19, 2013 at 5:15 PM

        And you think that they would have been delighted to accompany him into the abyss of dementia, their finances drained by his medical and hospice care expenses, their nerves stripped raw by his fits and paranoia, amused no end as he progressively forgot who they were? Yep, right. The loved ones of suicides usually suffer most because they had no idea about why someone killed themselves or were left in a situation amenable to blaming themselves. Looks to me like he went well out of his way to make the reasons for his decision as perfectly clear as his deteriorating mental and emotional state let him.

  10. number42is1 - Aug 19, 2013 at 1:17 PM

    “I don’t succumb to pier pressure and I won’t be intimidated.”

    Grammar nazi’s are gonna have a field day with this one.

    • historiophiliac - Aug 19, 2013 at 1:48 PM


      • number42is1 - Aug 19, 2013 at 1:56 PM

        well done!

      • historiophiliac - Aug 19, 2013 at 2:04 PM

        I couldn’t resist the irony.

      • stlouis1baseball - Aug 19, 2013 at 2:54 PM

        Happy belated Birthday from me too Philiac!

  11. loyalraven - Aug 19, 2013 at 1:18 PM

    Good. I’m glad he’s dead. Life isn’t a decision and anyone who decides to waste it doesn’t deserve to be acknowledge.

    So long sucka!

    • DonkeyStick - Aug 19, 2013 at 1:20 PM

      and yet you felt the need to stop, post, and acknowledge him?

      • Old Gator - Aug 19, 2013 at 1:46 PM

        “Life isn’t a decision.”

        How many millennia of suicides later, you came to that conclusion?


    • aceshigh11 - Aug 19, 2013 at 1:48 PM

      Glad to hear from the GOP spokesperson.

      • historiophiliac - Aug 19, 2013 at 1:55 PM

        Football fans.

      • aceshigh11 - Aug 19, 2013 at 2:16 PM

        Not much difference. Ha.

      • yahmule - Aug 19, 2013 at 2:41 PM

        The best football board on the internet is run by four guys who are all decidedly left of center politically.

    • goirishgo - Aug 19, 2013 at 1:57 PM

      “I’m glad he’s dead.”

      Here’s wishing you a long life with yourself.

    • loyalraven - Aug 19, 2013 at 5:10 PM

      Life isn’t a decision..which one of you idiots decided to be born? Life is a gift, and if u refuse it then u don’t deserve it, and if u waste it.. then u don’t deserve to be acknowledged anymore. So fuck his website and fuck his memories. He wanted to feel important before he killed himself. Wish he would have made a video of it so I couldve watched. That bastard, I enjoy comedies.

      waa waa waa

      Go Ravens!

      (btw I bet he was a Browns fan)

  12. number42is1 - Aug 19, 2013 at 1:21 PM

    “So, I created which is prepaid for five years, as is Whether it gets extended beyond that is up to others. Five years is as long as Yahoo would let me pay in advance.”

    Network Solutions allows for 99 year purchases… im just sayin

  13. number42is1 - Aug 19, 2013 at 1:28 PM

    “I began seeing the problems that come with aging some time ago. I was sick of leaving the garage door open overnight. I was sick of forgetting to zip up when I put on my pants. I was sick of forgetting the names of my best friends. I was sick of going downstairs and having no idea why. I was sick of watching a movie, going to my account on IMDB to type up a review and realizing I’ve already seen it and, worse, already written a review! I was sick of having to dig through the trash to find an envelope that was sent to me so I could remember my own address – especially since I lived in the same place for the last nine years”

    This is more than just aging. I mean if his mine was going to the point that he didn’t know his own address then something else was obviously going on with him.

    • Old Gator - Aug 19, 2013 at 1:52 PM

      Well, yes – sixty is awfully early for memory loss to become that severe. Frankly, if I got to that point I might well reconsider my options too. My father suffered from dementia as well as Alzheimer’s Disease when he was in his early nineties, and caring for him – especially once he no longer knew who we were, became violently paranoid and no longer behaved even remotely the way he once did, in effect becoming a total stranger once it all took hold of him – I let my son know that I’d prefer he stand on my respirator tube before ever letting me become the kind of drag on his or his mom’s life that my father became. I have no doubt that Manley was well aware of where he was headed and just said “no, thank you.”

      • JB (the original) - Aug 19, 2013 at 3:14 PM

        Exactly. He knew it was coming and how fast. Yeah, too early, but a good friend of my mother’s started showing symptoms of Alzheimers at age 50, 6 months later didn’t recognize her at all, and 6 months after that she was dead of it. Always takes me back to Puck’s ‘tomorrow isn’t promised to anyone’ quote.

      • stoutfiles - Aug 19, 2013 at 6:34 PM

        Well said Gator. I would prefer myself to live it up and go out on my own terms then face the problems that can come with advanced old age. In this guy’s case, I can understand why he did it, even though suicide is generally something I don’t agree with.

    • chrisny13 - Aug 19, 2013 at 2:03 PM

      Ooops, I didn’t see your post when I posted the same quote below. But I had the same idea — that there was indeed something very serious going on with him — he was losing his mind and was showing signs of Alzheimer’s disease.

      It’s important for people not to think he committed suicide just for the heck of it. I suspect if his mental faculties hadn’t been so impaired, he’d still be alive today.

  14. Stiller43 - Aug 19, 2013 at 1:38 PM


    Really? How can he have regrets about committing suicide when he didnt do it yet? Plz explain.

    Im sure many pple want to do something for years (maybe a tattoo, for example), and when they finally do it, they regret doing it at some point. Answering “yes” everyday to still wanting it for 14 months doesnt mean you wont have regrets when you actually do it…which is the only time you can regret your actions…AFTER its done, and if youre dead, you cant regret anything…in case ya didnt know…

  15. Stiller43 - Aug 19, 2013 at 1:43 PM

    “So if according to you “regrets are hindsight” then suicide was right in front of him, his own decision, and it was the correct thing to do, if ya didn’t know…”

    HINDsight means beHIND…as in the past, not “right in front of him.” For him to regret his past action of suicide, he better be a ghost capable of feelings and emotions.

    Im not saying he would regret his decision (or that he made the wrong one, if he’s done with life, thats cool), IF he were able to do so, which he isnt….just that the regrets statement is asinine.

  16. brockw82 - Aug 19, 2013 at 1:52 PM

    Just by reading it, looks and feels like he did it for attention. Who else would ensure the site lives on and puts that much thought and effort into leaving a legacy such as this?

    • Old Gator - Aug 19, 2013 at 5:21 PM

      As an explanation to his loved ones. As an attempt to write out, systematize, evaluate and clarify a momentous decision in his own life for himself. As a potential aide to others finding themselves in the same situation – confronting the onset of an implacable debilitating condition, not just limited to dementia but perhaps for the benefit of anyone faced with a terminal illness or damaged in an accident to the point that life became more painful and difficult than it was worth. Plenty of reasons, and not all of them remotely selfish.

  17. Stiller43 - Aug 19, 2013 at 1:56 PM


    What good does attention get you when youre dead, and thus not around to enjoy it?

  18. chrisny13 - Aug 19, 2013 at 1:56 PM

    On Manley’s website, he gives a reason why he committed suicide that is reasonably understandable — his mental faculties were failing him. He was literally losing his mind.

    This is what he says:

    I began seeing the problems that come with aging some time ago. I was sick of leaving the garage door open overnight. I was sick of forgetting to zip up when I put on my pants. I was sick of forgetting the names of my best friends. I was sick of going downstairs and having no idea why. I was sick of watching a movie, going to my account on IMDB to type up a review and realizing I’ve already seen it and, worse, already written a review! I was sick of having to dig through the trash to find an envelope that was sent to me so I could remember my own address – especially since I lived in the same place for the last nine years!

    To me, this sounds pretty serious. As I get older I grow more forgetful too, but it’s nothing like this. The only thing that sounds familiar is going to a room in my home and forgetting the reason why. But if it ever got to the point where I can’t remember my own address, well then that’s a real red flag.

    It sounds as if Manley was almost on the verge of needing a nursing home. Or, at least an assisted living situation. Being that he lived alone, perhaps he thought this was the easiest way out. It’s sad that he didn’t want to go on living trying to meet these challenges head on, but perhaps he had been deteriorating rapidly and feared full-blown alzheimer’s was just around the corner.

    I only posted this because I don’t want some, especially young people, to read about Manley’s choice and think he committed suicide for no reason at all. Maybe his reasons weren’t good enough for such a drastic step, but there was at least some rationale behind it.

    It’s a sad story. RIP, Martin Manley.

    • stlouis1baseball - Aug 19, 2013 at 2:52 PM

      “The only thing that sounds familiar is going to a room in my home and forgetting the reason why.”

      This happens to me a minimum of three times a week. And I am “only” 41.
      I always chalked it up to excessive marijuana usage.
      Now I have to consider Alzheimer’s or dementia?

      • chrisny13 - Aug 19, 2013 at 3:23 PM

        Nah. Forgetting why you just walked to the fridge is a normal part of aging/forgetfullness. I never smoked pot “excessively” so it’s not that either. However, forgetting your address when you’re still only 60? Big red flag.

      • clemente2 - Aug 19, 2013 at 4:38 PM

        There are some interesting studies on this—it appears men have it more often than women, and is usually associated with having something to do but then walking through a door or taking a turn in a hallway. The memory of the ‘plan’ gets disrupted by the new visual perspective. If you stayed where you were, you would remember it (so, if really throubled, go back to where you were, let the physical context seep in, and think about what plan you were deciding on.)

    • stlouis1baseball - Aug 19, 2013 at 3:28 PM

      I hear you. I guess I should have been more specific.
      I too…can only relate to forgetting why you enter a room thing.
      Again, it happens to me about 3 times a week!

  19. rickdobrydney - Aug 19, 2013 at 2:08 PM

    Its a narcissistic act , plain and simple . He wanted the attentiom. Attention he might never have gotten alive . Dumb, stupid, and self serving.

    • dondada10 - Aug 19, 2013 at 2:36 PM

      “Attention he might never have gotten alive.”

      You don’t fucking say.

  20. mudhead123 - Aug 19, 2013 at 2:35 PM

    To this day I am amazed how many people don’t know that “no one” is two words

  21. beavertonsteve - Aug 19, 2013 at 2:41 PM

    Reminds me a bit of Hunter S Thompson’s note-

    Football Season is Over

    No More Games. No More Bombs. No More Walking. No More Fun. No More Swimming. 67. That is 17 years past 50. 17 more than I needed or wanted. Boring. I am always bitchy. No Fun — for anybody. 67. You are getting Greedy. Act your old age. Relax — This won’t hurt

  22. weaselpuppy - Aug 19, 2013 at 2:50 PM

    Most of the commentary here about aging, decline, dementia, loss of persona etc, I get and am in agreement with. My dad turned 80 this Independence Day, and even at 60, his greatest fear was Dependence and loss of faculty, to the point of official Advanced Directives and plenty of unofficial reassurances that he made clear that no one was gonna try and bring him back or have him linger on indefinitely as a bed potato. Now, given his health and habits, I didn’t expect him to see 65, but he’s a stubborn Irishman, with a pretty resilient body and a bit less resilient mind, but still in mostly working order. He has found new goals and timelines as old ones have come to pass/expired, but the look of Joy like a 6 year old’s on his face as we watched the July 4th (as we call them Birthday) city fireworks explode below us from the penthouse of the local riverside resort was as priceless as it was revealing….that it’s the simple joys in life that matter…the moments of wonder. Until the time comes where you can’t experience them, you should live the sh!t outta life….it has a lot to give.

    And that brings me to the other side of the coin…giving and teaching. This whole argument about going out on your own terms, not being a burden etc…it’s only one side of the coin, and the other side doesn’t get spoken of near enough or given the weight it truly deserves. That other side, somewhat succinctly, is this; We all aren’t Here just for ourselves. We interact with many others, some close, some unattached ( just as Manley is doing now with us). Our interplay with them, be it for a minute or a lifetime, many believe, has purpose for the Other, not just us. Ask a parent of a severely mentally disabled child just how much they got out of their relationship with their child, even though that child’s life may be a level of existence that any of us, given a choice, would reject. This was what Pope JP II was talking about when he continued to serve his tenure until his death, through obvious struggle physically, emotionally, mentally and likely spiritually ( which made Pope Benedict’s abdication, as earthshaking as it was, even more notable due to the contrast). We aren’t just here for ourselves, and even if that being here causes a lot of angst, problems, pain etc…those around us, close or afar that are part of that, gain from that interaction. Who are we to remove the teacher before the lesson is complete? A study in getting yourself out of the picture, even when the subject is What You Want, is a worthwhile endeavor.

    Now, my Pop has a written legal document that I will follow, and to be honest, even if he didn’t, I know his wishes and would act accordingly in it’s absence. How I will approach this personally for me, given that other side of the coin, I can’t say as of yet, I’m trying to live as much as I can and haven’t formed a final opinion given the way I believe medical technology will advance and what my goals have changed or will change to. But I know I at least will have had that debate ( as it seems many writing here haven’t) before the time comes and be alright with the results.

    • stlouis1baseball - Aug 19, 2013 at 2:56 PM

      Great post Weasel. Well done.

    • clemente2 - Aug 19, 2013 at 4:41 PM


  23. crackersnap - Aug 19, 2013 at 4:30 PM

    I’ll stick with John Stuart mill on this one: “The principle of freedom cannot require that he should be free not to be free.”

    • Old Gator - Aug 19, 2013 at 8:24 PM

      John Stuart Mill wasn’t watching his own mind deteriorate when he wrote that though, was he?

  24. eatitfanboy - Aug 19, 2013 at 5:03 PM

    The sad thing is that he seemed to believe that the mental acuity issues he was having were normal for a 60 year old. He claims to have been completely healthy. He acknowledges no brain disorder. He says he never drank or did drugs. There is no way he should have had memory issues to the extent of writing movie reviews for movies he had already reviewed at that age. He clearly had undiagnosed early onset dementia or some other brain disorder.

    Often times when people get as far inside their own heads as he did, it never occurs to them to ask anyone else if what they are going through is normal.

  25. eatitfanboy - Aug 19, 2013 at 5:06 PM

    Another sad thing is that points out that his life insurance expires in 2014 as one of his reasons. Doesn’t he know that life insurance policies don’t pay out in case of suicide?

    • eatitfanboy - Aug 19, 2013 at 5:12 PM

      “Didn’t” he know I obviously meant.

      • stlouis1baseball - Aug 19, 2013 at 5:45 PM

        Great point about the planning. Hadn’t considered that.

    • stlouis1baseball - Aug 19, 2013 at 5:24 PM

      It appears that his did/does payout in cases of suicide (if the insurance was purchased at least two full years prior the committing the act).

      • eatitfanboy - Aug 19, 2013 at 5:37 PM

        I didn’t realize that, but I did a little research and you are correct. My bad. Although I will say that this website may constitute evidence that he has been planning this for quite awhile. Not sure if that could void it or not.

      • largebill - Aug 20, 2013 at 11:30 AM

        Correct. It is a misconception that life insurance doesn’t pay out in case of suicide or if you die as a result of criminal activity (DUI, etc). There is no blanket rule. Each life insurance policy spells out any situations that would void their responsibility. For instance, I believe my policy included language stating if I was dishonest in the health questionnaire/physical exam it would be void. As far as suicide I believe it had a no payout if within one year after issuance clause. A life insurance policy is a legal document and as with any legal document should be read and understood.

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