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C.J. Wilson is one big Angels signing that has gone well

Aug 21, 2013, 11:51 AM EST

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Handing out huge long-term contracts to Albert Pujols and Josh Hamilton has worked out horribly for the Angels and only figures to get worse, but one of their big free agent commitments is going just fine.

When the Angels inked C.J. Wilson to a five-year, $77.5 million deal it was met with a lot of criticism, but Wilson was a solid innings-eater last season and has been very good this year as the rest of the rotation has fallen apart around him.

Wilson tossed 7.1 innings of one-run ball against the Indians last night, lowering his ERA to 3.30. Since signing with the Angels he’s started 60 games and thrown 369 innings with a 3.59 ERA. That’s a clear step down from his three-year run as a starter for the Rangers that got Wilson the big contract, but by the end of this season he’ll likely have been worth around $30 million according to Fan Graphs’ valuation system.

Wilson is 32 years old and has another three seasons left on the deal, so things going well don’t mean the Angels won’t regret the signing eventually, but on a roster filled with disappointing performances he’s been worth the money.

  1. yankeepunk3000 - Aug 21, 2013 at 12:20 PM

    when you look at a fire that wipes the entire community and see that they left one house standing.

  2. r8rnuck - Aug 21, 2013 at 12:44 PM

    not to take away from wilson but the indians bats aren’t exactly on fire right now…regardless, he did a really good job of taking advantage.

  3. miketreedy - Aug 21, 2013 at 12:50 PM

    Based on the last two Angel seasons they are just wasting their money paying CJ Wilson. They are not a playoff caliber team so they might as well be developing young pitchers and saving themselves the $15m.

    • Francisco (FC) - Aug 21, 2013 at 1:58 PM

      Yeah cause, you know, that $15MM? THAT’S the one big obstacle to rebuilding the Angels into contention.

  4. gibbyfan - Aug 21, 2013 at 12:55 PM

    You have to really wonder about what a very smart business man was thinking when he signed Albert –not being sarcastic here. Aging is not exactly an unknown variable. I mean you culd understand the Cardinals because he was their icon–their next Stan the Man and that’s once in a lifetime stuff but they openly stated that it was only for that reason that they were even in picture (they didnt even think about pursunig Fielder to take his place).
    Mybe it was just a matter of hey—we have this fabulous cable contract and have to spend it somewhere—-but still, why ten years. It will wind up being AROD all over again–minus the sleaze factor

    • djpostl - Aug 21, 2013 at 1:14 PM

      Hell, His deal, mostly because it is so back-loaded (unlike Arod’s deal), will be far worse than A-frauds. They owe 8 years and like $214M and have gotten one “good-not-great” season.

      Arod rattled off 3 and a half years of comparable numbers before his rash of injuries slowed him down.

    • paperlions - Aug 21, 2013 at 3:25 PM

      Just because people are smart about somethings don’t mean that they are smart about everything….and people that are highly successful in one thing don’t generally understand that their brilliance is limited to that arena. Ego comes with many blind spots…..mostly, self evaluation.

      • gibbyfan - Aug 21, 2013 at 3:46 PM

        I appreciate what your saying Paperlions —we all have our areas of expertise and of not so much expertise—but thios is different. Baseball is afterall a business and major contracts involve business projections/estimations, return on capital etc…all of which should be in the wheelhouse of the titans of industry that own MLB teams — As far as ego is concerned—I would think that has to do with making savy decisions because doing otherwise should hurt those egos in a very public way. It just doesnt compute

      • paperlions - Aug 21, 2013 at 3:58 PM

        …but the ego is what affects the decision, not the outcome. The ego says “I am smart and I make good decisions.” The ego doesn’t actually consider if the decision is good or not or even review the results, the ego assumes the decision was good regardless of the outcome.

        Just look at the history of owners being involved in roster/baseball decisions in sports.

        The more the Steinbrenners are involved, the worse they Yankees are.

        Loria = highly involved. The Marlins have sucked since he took them over (lucky WS riding coat tails of previous owner notwithstanding).

        Moreno = involved. Bad contracts.

        Jerry Jones = involved. Haven’t won a playoff game for nearly 20 years.

        Dan Snider = involved. Redskins are horrible.

        Bengals owner’s son is GM. Bengals are have been a bad team.

        Bidwell’s make decisions for Arizona Cardinals…they’ve been a horrible team for decades.

        A smart owner hires smart people and get’s out of the way. An egotistical owner thinks he knows best and continues to think that even after an endless string of failures. That is what the ego is for…bravado, not self evaluation.

      • stex52 - Aug 21, 2013 at 4:21 PM

        Paper, I will give you a good test case with an internal control for your hypothesis. Drayton McClain bought the Astros and put a good management team in charge, including Jerry Hunsicker. As the years went on, the Astros started to thrive (late 90’s). It was a well respected organization that enjoyed good regular season success (although a bit of bad luck in the playoffs). Their farm club was relatively deep and productive.

        Then Drayton obviously became jealous of the attention to his GM and started meddling. Then he started insisting on having the fun of signing big contracts. Then he ran off Hunsicker and put his own boy, Purpura, in his place. That was an unmitigated disaster. Then Ed Wade and very tight rules on what he could and couldn’t do. Everyone mocks Wade, and he frustrated me too. But most people outside of Houston don’t know how constrained he was by the owner. Then Drayton bled the organization of money and sold it off. He is a good businessman. But he never learned much baseball, although he thought he did. And he couldn’t keep his hands off forever.

        Voila. Worst organization in the MLB. And trying to rebuild.

      • paperlions - Aug 21, 2013 at 4:26 PM

        It is sad…but that is pretty much how it always seems to happen when an owner gets involved. They don’t know what they are doing, they refuse to listen to anyone, and they screw everything up and blame everyone else for the mess (and make a lot of $$ along the way).

    • gibbyfan - Aug 21, 2013 at 5:51 PM

      Well, you might have a point Paper but those might be pretty diverse circumstances with that array of owners…………for example I think loria is just interested in milking the team –doubt he really cares about winning otherwise —-How about Al davis of the Raiders—He meddled more than anyone and it went both ways—an absolute genius until he apparently became senile—-Stwrting in the 60s and for almost four decades he was the master–none better—–then He became the worst–none worse.

  5. aceshigh11 - Aug 21, 2013 at 12:59 PM

    Pretty solid numbers, considering his age. A lot of teams would pay for that performance.

  6. djpostl - Aug 21, 2013 at 1:11 PM

    Only because they have yet to make the playoffs. Once they do that his true self will appear and he’ll get shelled.

  7. Francisco (FC) - Aug 21, 2013 at 2:00 PM

    I wonder how player salary inflation will make this deal look in 3 years.

    • sportsfan18 - Aug 21, 2013 at 2:32 PM

      Pujols salaries with the Angels for his 10 yr contract

      2012 YR 1 $12 million
      2013 YR 2 $16 million
      2014 YR 3 $23 million
      2015 YR 4 $24 million
      2016 YR 5 $25 million
      2017 YR 6 $26 million 37 yrs old
      2018 YR 7 $27 million 38 yrs old
      2019 YR 8 $28 million 39 yrs old
      2020 YR 9 $29 million 40 yrs old
      2021 YR 10 $30 million 41 yrs old

      • neoshweaty - Aug 21, 2013 at 4:07 PM

        2021 YR 10 $30 million 41 yrs old

        Good god.

  8. jarathen - Aug 22, 2013 at 8:05 AM

    CJ WIlson’s numbers might have been ever better had he not played through elbow problems last year that required offseason surgery. He’s been just fine ever since.

  9. mp802013 - Aug 22, 2013 at 10:07 AM

    We Loved CJ Wilson here at Texas during the regular season………..He was great. But get your team into the playoffs and watch him CHOKE. That’s what happened and frustrated the fans in Texas.

    Offended….CJ Wilson stomped off like a child to the team he thought would hurt the Rangers the most. Hamilton repeated this.

    So, get the Angels into the playoffs and you will forget that CJ Wilson was a good pickup.

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